Re: Gypsy, Preparing to start firt boat

I think I will do just that. I have been waiting a long time to build
her and I am ready to start. Being a novice and not educated in the
subject this is a great place to throw out ideas for good solid
opinions and knowledge. I'm learning things already. Thanks much


> This is your firt boat. Build it fast and learn things and get into
the water. Then start on your pretty ceder strip and take your time
> and make it look good.
--- In bolger@y..., "mmunds" <mmunds@e...> wrote:
> I apreciate the insight, The last thing I want to do is change the
> hull, just like the looks of ceder strip and natural wood.

This is your firt boat. Build it fast and learn things and get into the water. Then start on your pretty ceder strip and take your time
and make it look good.
--- In bolger@y..., "Roger S" <roger99a@h...> wrote:
> I have found that with
> an equal weight partner you rarely have to move around, just lean to
> windward.

But without an equal-weight partner leaning back swamps the boat.

> I have also used the far side seat as the hiking strap.

I used to until a month ago. Try the strap, it's easy and a big improvement.
I installed the seats on my Gypsy and I like them. I have found that with
an equal weight partner you rarely have to move around, just lean to
windward. I have also used the far side seat as the hiking strap.

Roger S

Also, I would advise NOT installing the two seats on the side. You're
better off keeping your weight centered and low
> (much of the time you'll sail it sitting on the rail- install a hiking
strap).
I apreciate the insight, The last thing I want to do is change the
hull, just like the looks of ceder strip and natural wood. I was
thinking of buying the full sized pattern and making the hull pieces
off that using ceder strips instead of plywood. No dimentions would
change at all, But might not be strong as plywood though. I think I
will live without the jib, it was just an idea and that is why I
posted it so I could glean some wisdom :-) I don't want to move the
mast or add one, I have been waiting several years with plans in hand
and love the gypsy's look the way it is. Thanks for the tips on the
constructing flotation chambers, great idea. I will definately do
that.

> A Gypsy goes like hell when the wind blows with its one sail. In
light winds I have found myself wishing for more canvas, but rowing
> is good for you anyway. The Gypsy is not a forgiving boat. It is
narrow and has a very low freeboard and will make you swim if you
> are aren't paying sufficient attention. Even in a moderate wind you
have your hands full with that one sail.
> Putting a jib on a Gypsy would unbalance the rig without moving the
mast to the rear. If this is done, the boat will be unbalanced
> with the mainsail alone, which is all that you'll need except for
the lightest of winds. You could add a jib to the mast where it is and
a
> second mast to make a yawl, but it's probably not worth the trouble.
>
> As for changing the hull-there are many many many designs to choose
from. Why not find one that is exactly what you want rather
> than trying to make a Gypsy something that its not?
>
> Two suggestions. Deck the rear compartment and the front all the way
back to the mast. Otherwise, you will not be able to self-
> rescue. Also, I would advise NOT installing the two seats on the
side. You're better off keeping your weight centered and low
> (much of the time you'll sail it sitting on the rail- install a
hiking strap).
--- In bolger@y..., "mmunds" <mmunds@e...> wrote:
> Any hints would be appreciated on starting this project. Also has
> anyone rigged thsi boat with a jib and main sail setup? I like to play
> around with the 2 sail setup and want it to work on the Gypsy. Also is
> the full size templates still sold for this boat? I did not see them
> on Bolger's websight. I want to ceder strip this boat, I think it
> would be very beautiful, but not quite sure on the first time around.
> I will ceder strip the pieces if I can find the Templates for it.

A Gypsy goes like hell when the wind blows with its one sail. In light winds I have found myself wishing for more canvas, but rowing
is good for you anyway. The Gypsy is not a forgiving boat. It is narrow and has a very low freeboard and will make you swim if you
are aren't paying sufficient attention. Even in a moderate wind you have your hands full with that one sail.
Putting a jib on a Gypsy would unbalance the rig without moving the mast to the rear. If this is done, the boat will be unbalanced
with the mainsail alone, which is all that you'll need except for the lightest of winds. You could add a jib to the mast where it is and a
second mast to make a yawl, but it's probably not worth the trouble.

As for changing the hull-there are many many many designs to choose from. Why not find one that is exactly what you want rather
than trying to make a Gypsy something that its not?

Two suggestions. Deck the rear compartment and the front all the way back to the mast. Otherwise, you will not be able to self-
rescue. Also, I would advise NOT installing the two seats on the side. You're better off keeping your weight centered and low
(much of the time you'll sail it sitting on the rail- install a hiking strap).
--- In bolger@y..., "mmunds" <mmunds@e...> wrote:
> Any hints would be appreciated on starting this project. Also has
> anyone rigged thsi boat with a jib and main sail setup? I like to
play
> around with the 2 sail setup and want it to work on the Gypsy. Also
is
> the full size templates still sold for this boat? I did not see
them
> on Bolger's websight. I want to ceder strip this boat, I think it
> would be very beautiful, but not quite sure on the first time
around.
> I will ceder strip the pieces if I can find the Templates for it.

If by template you mean lines drawing, I would not have thought that
there would be one for a tack and tape boat, at least not one with
closely enough spaced stations.

If it were me, I would save cedar strip for a design of Bolger's or
whomevers that had round sections where the strips could be put to
good use:http://www.gartsideboats.com/cat.php
Any hints would be appreciated on starting this project. Also has
anyone rigged thsi boat with a jib and main sail setup? I like to play
around with the 2 sail setup and want it to work on the Gypsy. Also is
the full size templates still sold for this boat? I did not see them
on Bolger's websight. I want to ceder strip this boat, I think it
would be very beautiful, but not quite sure on the first time around.
I will ceder strip the pieces if I can find the Templates for it.