[bolger] Re: FS vs. LS, FS folded and withdrew
BO>put my money on the FS in medium (non-planing) air, LS in light air (sail
BO>area vs. displacement), but the really interesting one would be HEAVY air.
BO>Also, there should be a drag race from a standing start over, say 1 mile,
BO>broad reaching, to determine the true speed demon.
BO>Just thinking of it almost makes me come unhinged (oooo...that is one awful
BO>pun. Should've waited on Mr. Samson for that one :) )
BO>Robert & Amy Lundy
What did you know that we didn't? Does Mr Samson have Scots relatives
still lurking around Lake Alexandrina and capable of mayhem on his
command?? Has the eGroup lurched onto a course of international
conspiracy??? Are R&A Lundy indeed =responsible= for the unhinging of
the Folding Schooner???? Read on...
The Milang to Goolwa Freshwater Classic
(http://www.ace.net.au/schooner/mlraces.htm)was raced Sunday, with a
total field of 450-odd.
I was brought up short on race morning, wandering back from breakfast,
at the sight of a mirror-like royal blue Folding Schooner yclept
Butterfly. This turned out to be the now restored local FS, onsold.
The launch off the trailer was dramatic -- unfold onto blowup
fender/rollers (as used for catamarans) then just push over the bank
into the lake. Needless to say, I had no camera with me (every time
I've carried a camera in a race we've capsized or swamped, so I don't.
I'm not superstitious.)
The FS went out with its dinghy division, looked very good sailing to
and fro (but no staysail), started, but returned to harbour as we were
leaving for our own start.
Enquiries by the fair and beautiful Deborah and the rest of the FT2
cheer squad yielded the following from disappointed, indeed ropeable
crew. They were well set up, going very well =and= fast , boat
handling nicely even given inexperience (their second time out), but
there was considerable chop on the nose early on, perhaps to 2 feet. On
making to windward through the chop, the hinges were showing signs of
parting from the decking, suggestive of insufficient backing plates, so
rather than come apart and add further to the local folklore surrounding
the FS, they sadly returned to Milang to cast imprecations at the
restorers of the boat.
The question arises, just how big a chop can a FS tolerate? They'd had
no problems in the little wavies of the Lower Murray, but hadn't been
exposed before to the Lake chop.
Tim & Flying Tadpole
(Semi-gloat appendix)
FT2 was 10 minutes behind the leader and 4th over the line, 6th on
handicap (hiss boo) in her division, in which 53 of the 64 participants
did not finish. And we gave them a head start of 13 minutes, too....on
second thoughts, perhaps that was a mistake...
http://www.dove.mtx.net.au/~gryc/mgfc00.htm
BO>Everyone who sails has at some point been outgunned by a longer waterline
BO>attached to a pudgy hull and sails that look like yesterday's laundry.
BO>Usually in light/medium airs.
But in the light to non-existent airs which bedevilled the fleet for the
first 4 hours, it was the slender hull with immaculately set sails that
crept along. Sadly, the sea breeze came in about 30 minutes too early
for our nefarious purposes.
BO>area vs. displacement), but the really interesting one would be HEAVY air.
BO>Also, there should be a drag race from a standing start over, say 1 mile,
BO>broad reaching, to determine the true speed demon.
BO>Just thinking of it almost makes me come unhinged (oooo...that is one awful
BO>pun. Should've waited on Mr. Samson for that one :) )
BO>Robert & Amy Lundy
What did you know that we didn't? Does Mr Samson have Scots relatives
still lurking around Lake Alexandrina and capable of mayhem on his
command?? Has the eGroup lurched onto a course of international
conspiracy??? Are R&A Lundy indeed =responsible= for the unhinging of
the Folding Schooner???? Read on...
The Milang to Goolwa Freshwater Classic
(http://www.ace.net.au/schooner/mlraces.htm)was raced Sunday, with a
total field of 450-odd.
I was brought up short on race morning, wandering back from breakfast,
at the sight of a mirror-like royal blue Folding Schooner yclept
Butterfly. This turned out to be the now restored local FS, onsold.
The launch off the trailer was dramatic -- unfold onto blowup
fender/rollers (as used for catamarans) then just push over the bank
into the lake. Needless to say, I had no camera with me (every time
I've carried a camera in a race we've capsized or swamped, so I don't.
I'm not superstitious.)
The FS went out with its dinghy division, looked very good sailing to
and fro (but no staysail), started, but returned to harbour as we were
leaving for our own start.
Enquiries by the fair and beautiful Deborah and the rest of the FT2
cheer squad yielded the following from disappointed, indeed ropeable
crew. They were well set up, going very well =and= fast , boat
handling nicely even given inexperience (their second time out), but
there was considerable chop on the nose early on, perhaps to 2 feet. On
making to windward through the chop, the hinges were showing signs of
parting from the decking, suggestive of insufficient backing plates, so
rather than come apart and add further to the local folklore surrounding
the FS, they sadly returned to Milang to cast imprecations at the
restorers of the boat.
The question arises, just how big a chop can a FS tolerate? They'd had
no problems in the little wavies of the Lower Murray, but hadn't been
exposed before to the Lake chop.
Tim & Flying Tadpole
(Semi-gloat appendix)
FT2 was 10 minutes behind the leader and 4th over the line, 6th on
handicap (hiss boo) in her division, in which 53 of the 64 participants
did not finish. And we gave them a head start of 13 minutes, too....on
second thoughts, perhaps that was a mistake...
http://www.dove.mtx.net.au/~gryc/mgfc00.htm
BO>Everyone who sails has at some point been outgunned by a longer waterline
BO>attached to a pudgy hull and sails that look like yesterday's laundry.
BO>Usually in light/medium airs.
But in the light to non-existent airs which bedevilled the fleet for the
first 4 hours, it was the slender hull with immaculately set sails that
crept along. Sadly, the sea breeze came in about 30 minutes too early
for our nefarious purposes.
<<
They were well set up, going very well =and= fast , boat
handling nicely even given inexperience (their second time out), but
there was considerable chop on the nose early on, perhaps to 2 feet. On
making to windward through the chop, the hinges were showing signs of
parting from the decking, suggestive of insufficient backing plates, so
rather than come apart and add further to the local folklore surrounding
the FS, they sadly returned to Milang to cast imprecations at the
restorers of the boat.
might have to be on the outside of the hull, but the drag from 'em
would beat scissoring in two any day.
A small amount of Spectra line would seem to be sufficient, led around
streamlined chock-things. Well, I can picture it anyway...
They were well set up, going very well =and= fast , boat
handling nicely even given inexperience (their second time out), but
there was considerable chop on the nose early on, perhaps to 2 feet. On
making to windward through the chop, the hinges were showing signs of
parting from the decking, suggestive of insufficient backing plates, so
rather than come apart and add further to the local folklore surrounding
the FS, they sadly returned to Milang to cast imprecations at the
restorers of the boat.
>>What's wrong with some lashings to secure the joint in the boat? They
might have to be on the outside of the hull, but the drag from 'em
would beat scissoring in two any day.
A small amount of Spectra line would seem to be sufficient, led around
streamlined chock-things. Well, I can picture it anyway...
In a message dated 2/1/00 10:13:35 PM Pacific Standard Time,
tjfatchen@...writes:
<< The question arises, just how big a chop can a FS tolerate? They'd had
no problems in the little wavies of the Lower Murray, but hadn't been
exposed before to the Lake chop.
Tim & Flying Tadpole
I will let you know the FS ability to handle chop this spring. As soon as
the weather on the San Francisco Bay begins to get better I'll be bringing
her out. Mind you, not right in the middle of the slot to begin with though!
Perhaps I should name my boat "Lock Blade" in an attempt to establish its
character.
Hoping to hold together,
Chuck C.
tjfatchen@...writes:
<< The question arises, just how big a chop can a FS tolerate? They'd had
no problems in the little wavies of the Lower Murray, but hadn't been
exposed before to the Lake chop.
Tim & Flying Tadpole
>>Tim,
I will let you know the FS ability to handle chop this spring. As soon as
the weather on the San Francisco Bay begins to get better I'll be bringing
her out. Mind you, not right in the middle of the slot to begin with though!
Perhaps I should name my boat "Lock Blade" in an attempt to establish its
character.
Hoping to hold together,
Chuck C.