Re: [bolger] Re: Super BricK?!?
Dave and Anke lived on an AS 19 for 2 1/2 years.
http://www.ace.net.au/schooner/zoon.htm#start
I believe I saw Mark Zeiger and his Martha Jane and Dave's modified AS
29 in a cove north of here (Juneau) this weekend. I didn't go lower to
check as I didn't want to disturb what looked like a very peaceful and
enjoyable scene.
HJ
pvanderwaart wrote:
http://www.ace.net.au/schooner/zoon.htm#start
I believe I saw Mark Zeiger and his Martha Jane and Dave's modified AS
29 in a cove north of here (Juneau) this weekend. I didn't go lower to
check as I didn't want to disturb what looked like a very peaceful and
enjoyable scene.
HJ
pvanderwaart wrote:
>
> > Any others that are similar?
>
> Ken,
>
> The extended SuperBrick discussion erupted while I was away and I
> just got around to seeking the first post. I don't suppose I'll read
> all of the threads or sub-threads, so forgive me if this is redundant
> comment.
>
> William Garden included a design for a boat called Oyster in one of
> his two books named 'Yacht Designs.' It was designed as a liveaboard
> for a college-age woman and has all the facilities for one. It's a
> pram-bowed, leeboard sailing craft. I think the headroom is less than
> for the S'brick.
>
> Tanton (http://www.tantonyachts.com/)has design #987, a 21'
> houseboat, but I have no idea if it either sails or powers, or is
> (probably) just a barge.
>
> The smallest boat I know of to have been proven both in liveaboard
> mode and sailing mode is Jesse Cooper. She's probably not a lot more
> work to build than SuperBrick.
>
> Peter
>
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> Any others that are similar?Ken,
The extended SuperBrick discussion erupted while I was away and I
just got around to seeking the first post. I don't suppose I'll read
all of the threads or sub-threads, so forgive me if this is redundant
comment.
William Garden included a design for a boat called Oyster in one of
his two books named 'Yacht Designs.' It was designed as a liveaboard
for a college-age woman and has all the facilities for one. It's a
pram-bowed, leeboard sailing craft. I think the headroom is less than
for the S'brick.
Tanton (http://www.tantonyachts.com/)has design #987, a 21'
houseboat, but I have no idea if it either sails or powers, or is
(probably) just a barge.
The smallest boat I know of to have been proven both in liveaboard
mode and sailing mode is Jesse Cooper. She's probably not a lot more
work to build than SuperBrick.
Peter
How about a raffle when SuperBrick is finished. 100 (or more?) tickets at
$50 each.
Winner gets SB.
Justin
$50 each.
Winner gets SB.
Justin
--- In bolger@y..., "John Bell" <jmbell@m...> wrote:
you!"
LOL! That's a hoot... and you may be right. And "other" John I
like your club idea... I really was thinking fewer folks with a
slightly higher investments so scheduling usage wouldn't be a
nightmare. Having students build boats for materials cost... that's
quite a concept... I wonder if many communities have such an untapped
resource? I might even be willing to oversee a project of that type
in my community.
I did my first family boat building in my shop today, which was a
real gas... photos here..
http://members.tripod.com/simplicityboats/minisharpfamily.html
If a couple of kids can build a sharpie in a day just think what some
high school kids could do.
Later
David
www.simplicityboats.com
> Get the money in escrow before you start!will send me $50 when I finish!"
> I can see the dialogue between husband and wife now:
> Husband: "Dear, if I build *this* boat, over 50 different people
>highly placed bureaucrat in Nigeria: "That's it! No more internet for
> Wife, thinking about what might happen if you got an email from a
you!"
> ;-)John,
> JB
LOL! That's a hoot... and you may be right. And "other" John I
like your club idea... I really was thinking fewer folks with a
slightly higher investments so scheduling usage wouldn't be a
nightmare. Having students build boats for materials cost... that's
quite a concept... I wonder if many communities have such an untapped
resource? I might even be willing to oversee a project of that type
in my community.
I did my first family boat building in my shop today, which was a
real gas... photos here..
http://members.tripod.com/simplicityboats/minisharpfamily.html
If a couple of kids can build a sharpie in a day just think what some
high school kids could do.
Later
David
www.simplicityboats.com
Build it and they will come...
If you want business participation, the thing is basicaly a walking
bilboard. If we station it on the waterfront, we could sell the ad
space, and save on paint.
If you want business participation, the thing is basicaly a walking
bilboard. If we station it on the waterfront, we could sell the ad
space, and save on paint.
Wait a minute here, if this talk keeps up I may end up building it
and keeping it in Kingston for Thousand Islands for Bolger time
shareing. Then I'd have a boat even uglier than my houseboat. I do
have room for it, but who needs two (or does Micro make three) ugly
boats.
and keeping it in Kingston for Thousand Islands for Bolger time
shareing. Then I'd have a boat even uglier than my houseboat. I do
have room for it, but who needs two (or does Micro make three) ugly
boats.
Get the money in escrow before you start!
I can see the dialogue between husband and wife now:
Husband: "Dear, if I build *this* boat, over 50 different people will send
me $50 when I finish!"
Wife, thinking about what might happen if you got an email from a highly
placed bureaucrat in Nigeria: "That's it! No more internet for you!"
;-)
JB
I can see the dialogue between husband and wife now:
Husband: "Dear, if I build *this* boat, over 50 different people will send
me $50 when I finish!"
Wife, thinking about what might happen if you got an email from a highly
placed bureaucrat in Nigeria: "That's it! No more internet for you!"
;-)
JB
----- Original Message -----
From: "djbeede" <juliejj@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 12:57 PM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Super BricK "time share."
| What if more than one takes up the challenge and completes Super
| Brick in the given time period? Is the prize divided? Is the first to
| complete it the winner? What if we left the bet / contest paradigm
| and instead thought of funding a journey of exploration?
|
| The idea of a group funding of a build project for a limited kind
| of "time share" of the finished boat sounds interesting. If Steve is
| willing to put up $50 fir a "short ride under sail" would someone
| perhaps promise more for a charter, of say, a week or so? This way a
| group of folks who are toying with building a certain design, but are
| reluctant to commit the necessary time and labor and money could
| inexpensively purchase experiencial research to help with the final
| decision. The one performing the actual labor of the build, gets the
| materials cost offset, and of course retains ultimate ownership of
| the boat. Has anyone heard of this being done before? Sounds like it
| might have some potential...
| David Beede
| www.simplicityboats.com
|
|
| --- In bolger@y..., "s_paskey" <s_paskey@y...> wrote:
| > I'll put up another $50 (that's now $150 total), with the following
| > strings attached:
| >
| > 1. Modifications to the house (inside and out) are permitted, as
| > long as the house occupies more than 2/3 of the deck area. No
| > modifications to the hull shape or rig.
| > 2. Money to be handed over after I get a short ride under sail.
| >
| > Steve
|
|
|
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Yes, we call it the Navy and I have been on a few Navy boats/ships.
Even though I served in the Army. Seriously I think that I would like
to have a school do it as a shop project. Every year our local high
school builds these wonderful storage buildings for just the cost of
the material to the customer. Now they have five shop classes a day
and it only takes two days for each building.
The teacher is always looking for new projects and he runs a tight
ship so the quality is very good. They also buy the material at a
very large discount. Someone could get an SB without having to work
that hard. You would probably have to build the mast, sails and
finish the interior but that is a small price for a good boat.
Then it would be a Bolger club boat. A Bolger club could be set up
anywhere in the US and prospective builders could use the design they
are interested in. We could get grants from businesses to have the
boats built by students(a dying art). Sorry for the day dreaming.
John
Even though I served in the Army. Seriously I think that I would like
to have a school do it as a shop project. Every year our local high
school builds these wonderful storage buildings for just the cost of
the material to the customer. Now they have five shop classes a day
and it only takes two days for each building.
The teacher is always looking for new projects and he runs a tight
ship so the quality is very good. They also buy the material at a
very large discount. Someone could get an SB without having to work
that hard. You would probably have to build the mast, sails and
finish the interior but that is a small price for a good boat.
Then it would be a Bolger club boat. A Bolger club could be set up
anywhere in the US and prospective builders could use the design they
are interested in. We could get grants from businesses to have the
boats built by students(a dying art). Sorry for the day dreaming.
John
--- In bolger@y..., "djbeede" <juliejj@n...> wrote:
> What if more than one takes up the challenge and completes Super
> Brick in the given time period? Is the prize divided? Is the first
to
> complete it the winner? What if we left the bet / contest paradigm
> and instead thought of funding a journey of exploration?
>
> The idea of a group funding of a build project for a limited kind
> of "time share" of the finished boat sounds interesting. If Steve
is
> willing to put up $50 fir a "short ride under sail" would someone
> perhaps promise more for a charter, of say, a week or so? This way
a
> group of folks who are toying with building a certain design, but
are
> reluctant to commit the necessary time and labor and money could
> inexpensively purchase experiencial research to help with the final
> decision. The one performing the actual labor of the build, gets
the
> materials cost offset, and of course retains ultimate ownership of
> the boat. Has anyone heard of this being done before? Sounds like
it
> might have some potential...
> David Beede
> www.simplicityboats.com
>
>
> --- In bolger@y..., "s_paskey" <s_paskey@y...> wrote:
> > I'll put up another $50 (that's now $150 total), with the
following
> > strings attached:
> >
> > 1. Modifications to the house (inside and out) are permitted,
as
> > long as the house occupies more than 2/3 of the deck area. No
> > modifications to the hull shape or rig.
> > 2. Money to be handed over after I get a short ride under sail.
> >
> > Steve
What if more than one takes up the challenge and completes Super
Brick in the given time period? Is the prize divided? Is the first to
complete it the winner? What if we left the bet / contest paradigm
and instead thought of funding a journey of exploration?
The idea of a group funding of a build project for a limited kind
of "time share" of the finished boat sounds interesting. If Steve is
willing to put up $50 fir a "short ride under sail" would someone
perhaps promise more for a charter, of say, a week or so? This way a
group of folks who are toying with building a certain design, but are
reluctant to commit the necessary time and labor and money could
inexpensively purchase experiencial research to help with the final
decision. The one performing the actual labor of the build, gets the
materials cost offset, and of course retains ultimate ownership of
the boat. Has anyone heard of this being done before? Sounds like it
might have some potential...
David Beede
www.simplicityboats.com
Brick in the given time period? Is the prize divided? Is the first to
complete it the winner? What if we left the bet / contest paradigm
and instead thought of funding a journey of exploration?
The idea of a group funding of a build project for a limited kind
of "time share" of the finished boat sounds interesting. If Steve is
willing to put up $50 fir a "short ride under sail" would someone
perhaps promise more for a charter, of say, a week or so? This way a
group of folks who are toying with building a certain design, but are
reluctant to commit the necessary time and labor and money could
inexpensively purchase experiencial research to help with the final
decision. The one performing the actual labor of the build, gets the
materials cost offset, and of course retains ultimate ownership of
the boat. Has anyone heard of this being done before? Sounds like it
might have some potential...
David Beede
www.simplicityboats.com
--- In bolger@y..., "s_paskey" <s_paskey@y...> wrote:
> I'll put up another $50 (that's now $150 total), with the following
> strings attached:
>
> 1. Modifications to the house (inside and out) are permitted, as
> long as the house occupies more than 2/3 of the deck area. No
> modifications to the hull shape or rig.
> 2. Money to be handed over after I get a short ride under sail.
>
> Steve
Phil says that with all the interior fitting and built in joinerwork
(needed for strength and rigidity) she'd be an expensive (in time and
materials) thumbs up at established yachting good taste.
I'd reccomend that any rules be kept quite loose. Just that if a
majority of Bolgeristas could recognize it as a Super Brick, that
would be close enough. Far be it from my Neo-Luddite and iconoclastic
tendencies to inhibit the brave builders creative tendencies.
Perhaps it could be built as the world's first civilian sail powere
aircraft carrier, in a modular way of course.
But I'd love to see one built. Sure, I'd drive to California to see
one, or fly to Europe. OZ and Kiwiland might be too great of a
walabout, but what the heck, it's on my way.
Bruce
ps. Currency can be US, or paid in an equivalent number of crates of
beer. I'm nothing if not flexible.
(needed for strength and rigidity) she'd be an expensive (in time and
materials) thumbs up at established yachting good taste.
I'd reccomend that any rules be kept quite loose. Just that if a
majority of Bolgeristas could recognize it as a Super Brick, that
would be close enough. Far be it from my Neo-Luddite and iconoclastic
tendencies to inhibit the brave builders creative tendencies.
Perhaps it could be built as the world's first civilian sail powere
aircraft carrier, in a modular way of course.
But I'd love to see one built. Sure, I'd drive to California to see
one, or fly to Europe. OZ and Kiwiland might be too great of a
walabout, but what the heck, it's on my way.
Bruce
ps. Currency can be US, or paid in an equivalent number of crates of
beer. I'm nothing if not flexible.
Well, I suppose you could add a few inches here and there. Possibly
on Long Micro's greater length the standing headroom would be more,
shall I say "upright".
In the photo section of this group there's a folder called "Micro to
Navigator Conversion" and in the files section of Bolger2, in a file
called Bolger Scans there a photo of a Glass House Long Micro, while
it's not actually a Navigator conversion, it shows that a similar or
larger house could be built up on a LM and be quite a handy, little
all weather motor sailor.
on Long Micro's greater length the standing headroom would be more,
shall I say "upright".
In the photo section of this group there's a folder called "Micro to
Navigator Conversion" and in the files section of Bolger2, in a file
called Bolger Scans there a photo of a Glass House Long Micro, while
it's not actually a Navigator conversion, it shows that a similar or
larger house could be built up on a LM and be quite a handy, little
all weather motor sailor.
Ken, there are 2 articles about Navigator in Duckworks Magazine, but
in the Articles section.
Actually the headroom of a Navigator is not full headroom for lots
of people...I just went and measured it....1720mm, or about 5' 8
1/2" I would think. This is from the top of minimal height floor to
underside of ply. I suspect also that my cabin is 40mm higher than
the plan, because I forgot to deduct the roof camber when I scaled
the cabin side off the plans (no dimension given).
However, I am just under 6ft and don't have any trouble moving about
in her, and she SEEMS incredibly airy for a 16ft boat.
I think the Superbrick looks cute, though I wouldn't cross an ocean
in her!...Micro Navigator neither.
DonB
-- In bolger@y..., "Ken" <renueden@e...> wrote:
in the Articles section.
Actually the headroom of a Navigator is not full headroom for lots
of people...I just went and measured it....1720mm, or about 5' 8
1/2" I would think. This is from the top of minimal height floor to
underside of ply. I suspect also that my cabin is 40mm higher than
the plan, because I forgot to deduct the roof camber when I scaled
the cabin side off the plans (no dimension given).
However, I am just under 6ft and don't have any trouble moving about
in her, and she SEEMS incredibly airy for a 16ft boat.
I think the Superbrick looks cute, though I wouldn't cross an ocean
in her!...Micro Navigator neither.
DonB
-- In bolger@y..., "Ken" <renueden@e...> wrote:
> I couldn't fing the Micro Navigator, any specifics? I amdefinitely tempted
> to to the Super Brick?!?
> Ken
Mebbe it could be called the "HummBee".
--- In bolger@y..., "Michial Thompson (At Work)" <michialt@u...>
wrote:
--- In bolger@y..., "Michial Thompson (At Work)" <michialt@u...>
wrote:
> With a little creativity, perhaps you could give it that WWII Troopeyes
> Transport look, I suppose with that theme in mind it might work out
>
> At 07:52 PM 8/9/2002 +0000, you wrote:
> >--- In bolger@y..., "Michial Thompson (At Work)" <michialt@u...>
> >wrote:
> > > That has got to be one of the ugliest things I have ever set
> >on.posts
> >
> >
> >That's the idea. Though nicely built with a Doctor Evil kind of
> >aesthetic and you might have something.
> >
> >
> >
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--- In bolger@y..., "Michial Thompson (At Work)" <michialt@u...>
wrote:
garbage scow - No kidding. Still i'm all for your idea if I get to
man the twin 10/22 activator Gatling gun.
I had a kind of melted super white with smoked windows look in mind.
On the challenge aspect. Why not get ten persons to come together,
each with a bulkhead or something, and nail it up in a weekend. Good
things are worth waitning for, but this I want NOW!
We could leave it with Bruce, and borrow it on a timeshare basis for
a 1000 Island cruise. Pride of place would be for whomever takes it
to the local wooden boat heritage festivals. During the off-season
we anchor it oposite the most pompous waterfront development we can
find.
wrote:
> With a little creativity, perhaps you could give it that WWII TroopThat's too easy, sort like saying you could manage to make it like a
> Transport look, I suppose with that theme in mind it might work out
>
garbage scow - No kidding. Still i'm all for your idea if I get to
man the twin 10/22 activator Gatling gun.
I had a kind of melted super white with smoked windows look in mind.
On the challenge aspect. Why not get ten persons to come together,
each with a bulkhead or something, and nail it up in a weekend. Good
things are worth waitning for, but this I want NOW!
We could leave it with Bruce, and borrow it on a timeshare basis for
a 1000 Island cruise. Pride of place would be for whomever takes it
to the local wooden boat heritage festivals. During the off-season
we anchor it oposite the most pompous waterfront development we can
find.
With a little creativity, perhaps you could give it that WWII Troop
Transport look, I suppose with that theme in mind it might work out
At 07:52 PM 8/9/2002 +0000, you wrote:
Transport look, I suppose with that theme in mind it might work out
At 07:52 PM 8/9/2002 +0000, you wrote:
>--- In bolger@y..., "Michial Thompson (At Work)" <michialt@u...>
>wrote:
> > That has got to be one of the ugliest things I have ever set eyes
>on.
>
>
>That's the idea. Though nicely built with a Doctor Evil kind of
>aesthetic and you might have something.
>
>
>
>Bolger rules!!!
>- no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
>- stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
>- add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts and <snip> away
>- To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA,
>01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
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--- In bolger@y..., "Michial Thompson (At Work)" <michialt@u...>
wrote:
That's the idea. Though nicely built with a Doctor Evil kind of
aesthetic and you might have something.
wrote:
> That has got to be one of the ugliest things I have ever set eyeson.
That's the idea. Though nicely built with a Doctor Evil kind of
aesthetic and you might have something.
I'll put up another $50 (that's now $150 total), with the following
strings attached:
1. Modifications to the house (inside and out) are permitted, as
long as the house occupies more than 2/3 of the deck area. No
modifications to the hull shape or rig.
2. Money to be handed over after I get a short ride under sail.
Steve
strings attached:
1. Modifications to the house (inside and out) are permitted, as
long as the house occupies more than 2/3 of the deck area. No
modifications to the hull shape or rig.
2. Money to be handed over after I get a short ride under sail.
Steve
Welcome home Bruce. I trust you had an uneventful trip, no lead
leaping through the back window or anything.
If your offer is in Canadian $, I'll do you one better and offer US$
50 to get one built!
JB
leaping through the back window or anything.
If your offer is in Canadian $, I'll do you one better and offer US$
50 to get one built!
JB
--- In bolger@y..., "brucehector" <bruce_hector@h...> wrote:
> I think it's high time some dedicated Bolgeristero built a Super
> Brick, and I'm about to put your money where my mouth is. I'll bet
> $50 that someone, anyone, cannot build and launch a Super Brick
> within 24 months. Go for it pardner! Heck I'd even pay for a ride
ta'
> boot.
Your offer is tempting, but I'm more inclined to build either the
Japanese Beach Cruiser, the bird-watcher style "Camper" (#640, for
which I now have the plans), or Jon Thompson's "Green Heron," a
clever little 13-foot camp cruiser featured on two MAIB covers last
year.
For the benefit of anyone who's inclined to take you up on your
offer, I think you should specify whether (and to what extent) you
would permit modifications. For example, if I were going to build
SuperBrick, I'd consider the following:
1. Turn the first or last 6 feet or so (at either the bow or stern)
into an open but covered "porch," with a hard top and canvas sides.
2. Add some curve to the forward half of the sides, so that she's
narrower at the bow than at midships, then straight from mid-ships
back to the transom. Following the seas-of-frozen-peas theory, one
might consider making the curve in the sides match the rocker in the
bottom (ala Micro, Martha Jane, AS29, etc.), but that may be too
extreme.
Steve
Japanese Beach Cruiser, the bird-watcher style "Camper" (#640, for
which I now have the plans), or Jon Thompson's "Green Heron," a
clever little 13-foot camp cruiser featured on two MAIB covers last
year.
For the benefit of anyone who's inclined to take you up on your
offer, I think you should specify whether (and to what extent) you
would permit modifications. For example, if I were going to build
SuperBrick, I'd consider the following:
1. Turn the first or last 6 feet or so (at either the bow or stern)
into an open but covered "porch," with a hard top and canvas sides.
2. Add some curve to the forward half of the sides, so that she's
narrower at the bow than at midships, then straight from mid-ships
back to the transom. Following the seas-of-frozen-peas theory, one
might consider making the curve in the sides match the rocker in the
bottom (ala Micro, Martha Jane, AS29, etc.), but that may be too
extreme.
Steve
--- In bolger@y..., "brucehector" <bruce_hector@h...> wrote:
> I think it's high time some dedicated Bolgeristero built a Super
Brick, and I'm about to put your money where my mouth is. I'll bet
$50 that someone, anyone, cannot build and launch a Super Brick
within 24 months.
I couldn't fing the Micro Navigator, any specifics? I am definitely tempted
to to the Super Brick?!?
Ken
to to the Super Brick?!?
Ken
----- Original Message -----
From: "brucehector" <bruce_hector@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 8:50 AM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Super BricK?!?
> I think it's high time some dedicated Bolgeristero built a Super
> Brick, and I'm about to put your money where my mouth is. I'll bet
> $50 that someone, anyone, cannot build and launch a Super Brick
> within 24 months. Go for it pardner! Heck I'd even pay for a ride ta'
> boot.
>
> Under 20' sailboats with standing headroom would have to include the
> Micro Navigator and Long Micro Navigator. There's a story with photos
> over at Duckworks under projects.
>
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
> - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts and <snip> away
> - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA,
01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
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Thats the beauty, kind of like a pufferfish...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michial Thompson (At Work)" <michialt@...>
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Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: Super BricK?!?
> That has got to be one of the ugliest things I have ever set eyes on.
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> At 03:50 PM 8/9/2002 +0000, you wrote:
> >I think it's high time some dedicated Bolgeristero built a Super
> >Brick, and I'm about to put your money where my mouth is. I'll bet
> >$50 that someone, anyone, cannot build and launch a Super Brick
> >within 24 months. Go for it pardner! Heck I'd even pay for a ride ta'
> >boot.
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> >Under 20' sailboats with standing headroom would have to include the
> >Micro Navigator and Long Micro Navigator. There's a story with photos
> >over at Duckworks under projects.
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That has got to be one of the ugliest things I have ever set eyes on.
At 03:50 PM 8/9/2002 +0000, you wrote:
At 03:50 PM 8/9/2002 +0000, you wrote:
>I think it's high time some dedicated Bolgeristero built a Super
>Brick, and I'm about to put your money where my mouth is. I'll bet
>$50 that someone, anyone, cannot build and launch a Super Brick
>within 24 months. Go for it pardner! Heck I'd even pay for a ride ta'
>boot.
>
>Under 20' sailboats with standing headroom would have to include the
>Micro Navigator and Long Micro Navigator. There's a story with photos
>over at Duckworks under projects.
>
>
>
>Bolger rules!!!
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>- add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts and <snip> away
>- To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA,
>01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
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Seems to me the Brick would be an easy build compared to other designs. If
I wasn't currently building, I'd almost take that two year challenge! :>)
Jeff
I wasn't currently building, I'd almost take that two year challenge! :>)
Jeff
I think it's high time some dedicated Bolgeristero built a Super
Brick, and I'm about to put your money where my mouth is. I'll bet
$50 that someone, anyone, cannot build and launch a Super Brick
within 24 months. Go for it pardner! Heck I'd even pay for a ride ta'
boot.
Under 20' sailboats with standing headroom would have to include the
Micro Navigator and Long Micro Navigator. There's a story with photos
over at Duckworks under projects.
Brick, and I'm about to put your money where my mouth is. I'll bet
$50 that someone, anyone, cannot build and launch a Super Brick
within 24 months. Go for it pardner! Heck I'd even pay for a ride ta'
boot.
Under 20' sailboats with standing headroom would have to include the
Micro Navigator and Long Micro Navigator. There's a story with photos
over at Duckworks under projects.
As noted earlier, Super Brick really isn't a "small" boat. I've
occasionally had fantasies about building one to use as a floating
cottage (cheaper than waterfront property), but it'd be hard to
justify when something like the AS29 has as much room, sails like a
real boat, and probably wouldn't require significantly more work or
expense to build. On the other hand, if you're looking for the
maximum living space that you can fit in a 20-foot marina slip and
still have it sail (after a fashion), Super Brick may be it.
Steve
occasionally had fantasies about building one to use as a floating
cottage (cheaper than waterfront property), but it'd be hard to
justify when something like the AS29 has as much room, sails like a
real boat, and probably wouldn't require significantly more work or
expense to build. On the other hand, if you're looking for the
maximum living space that you can fit in a 20-foot marina slip and
still have it sail (after a fashion), Super Brick may be it.
Steve
> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:46:11 -0700I consider that "Watervan" is similar to Super Brick. They both were
> From: "Ken" <renueden@...>
> Subject: Super BricK?!?
> Any others that are similar?
designed for "maximum interior space & comfort", and they both are really
ugly <grin>. Watervan, I recall, is more or less a plywood box 24'x8'x7'
LxWxH, powered with an outboard motor to plane on a boxy cutwater type hull.
There was [at least] one Watervan built, and I recall reading that it turned
out fine.
Super Brick is not small, only short, just as the original Brick is
not nearly as small as you'd expect from the length. I suppose the
Marina Cruiser is an entirely different boat and not as big, but worth
looking at.
not nearly as small as you'd expect from the length. I suppose the
Marina Cruiser is an entirely different boat and not as big, but worth
looking at.
--- In bolger@y..., "Ken" <renueden@e...> wrote:
> Has anyone ever built one of these or is it a complete joke. I wish
it were
> not, I'm looking for a small, under 20', boat hopefully with a
little stand
> up headroom. I liked the fact that it has a sail too, but would it
sail?
> Any others that are similar?
>
> Thanks,
> Ken Locarnini
Jim Michalak has designed a number of the slot top boats including the
Frolic2 that I built which was a 20' fast sailboat for her size. The slot
top idea he claims to have gotten from the Bolger Birdwatch, which is very
unique upon itself.
Jeff
Frolic2 that I built which was a 20' fast sailboat for her size. The slot
top idea he claims to have gotten from the Bolger Birdwatch, which is very
unique upon itself.
Jeff
The convertable, sitting headroom sounds good, especially with lots of
stowage, any designs anyone can recommend?
Thanks,
Ken
stowage, any designs anyone can recommend?
Thanks,
Ken
----- Original Message -----
From: "lulalake_1999" <lulalake_1999@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 12:27 PM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Super BricK?!?
> --- In bolger@y..., "Ken" <renueden@e...> wrote:
> > Has anyone ever built one of these or is it a complete joke. I
> wish it were
> > not, I'm looking for a small, under 20', boat hopefully with a
> little stand
> > up headroom. I liked the fact that it has a sail too, but would it
> sail?
> > Any others that are similar?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ken Locarnini
>
>
> Hi Ken,
>
> Well, under 20' I think you are going to be pretty much SOL for
> standing headroom, however many boats in that range, plus or minus a
> few feet, have really comfortable sitting headroom and a lot of
> stowage.
>
> some of Bolger's and Mickalak boats have fairly massive hatches that
> roll back to give sort of convertible headroom, which really works
> well.
>
> Check outhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Michalak/as well as Bolger
> designs. They are pretty much kissin cousins in terms of quick
> building, and really appropriate boats for their designed uses.
> It's kind of hard to go wrong on Bolger or Michalak boats in this
> range.
>
> Jules
>
>
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
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--- In bolger@y..., "Ken" <renueden@e...> wrote:
Well, under 20' I think you are going to be pretty much SOL for
standing headroom, however many boats in that range, plus or minus a
few feet, have really comfortable sitting headroom and a lot of
stowage.
some of Bolger's and Mickalak boats have fairly massive hatches that
roll back to give sort of convertible headroom, which really works
well.
Check outhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Michalak/as well as Bolger
designs. They are pretty much kissin cousins in terms of quick
building, and really appropriate boats for their designed uses.
It's kind of hard to go wrong on Bolger or Michalak boats in this
range.
Jules
> Has anyone ever built one of these or is it a complete joke. Iwish it were
> not, I'm looking for a small, under 20', boat hopefully with alittle stand
> up headroom. I liked the fact that it has a sail too, but would itsail?
> Any others that are similar?Hi Ken,
>
> Thanks,
> Ken Locarnini
Well, under 20' I think you are going to be pretty much SOL for
standing headroom, however many boats in that range, plus or minus a
few feet, have really comfortable sitting headroom and a lot of
stowage.
some of Bolger's and Mickalak boats have fairly massive hatches that
roll back to give sort of convertible headroom, which really works
well.
Check outhttp://groups.yahoo.com/group/Michalak/as well as Bolger
designs. They are pretty much kissin cousins in terms of quick
building, and really appropriate boats for their designed uses.
It's kind of hard to go wrong on Bolger or Michalak boats in this
range.
Jules
Has anyone ever built one of these or is it a complete joke. I wish it were
not, I'm looking for a small, under 20', boat hopefully with a little stand
up headroom. I liked the fact that it has a sail too, but would it sail?
Any others that are similar?
Thanks,
Ken Locarnini
not, I'm looking for a small, under 20', boat hopefully with a little stand
up headroom. I liked the fact that it has a sail too, but would it sail?
Any others that are similar?
Thanks,
Ken Locarnini