Re: Jim Michalak's new book
Chuck,
I'm looking forward to that one.
I also will have a book review for you on a book I've read on my
vacation.
Peter (at sea, aboard Sea Princess, off the Pacific coast of Canada.)
I'm looking forward to that one.
I also will have a book review for you on a book I've read on my
vacation.
Peter (at sea, aboard Sea Princess, off the Pacific coast of Canada.)
Actually they are about the same. With Paypal, they have a fixed
percentage. With Credit Cards they have a rate scale that is based on how
the card is taken, if your in person, and scan and sign for the order its
the lowest. The highest rate is if its taken over the Internet or
telephone. The highest charge back comes from these transactions because
without a signature the Credit card company more often than not must refund
anything that is contested.
Paypal has it's place, and its intended use was to be the middleman on
transactions made between individuals across the internet. It's only
natural that small business would begin taking it as a form of payment. I
am also surprised that more and more strictly Internet based companies are
not using it exclusively. Paypal's dispute procedures are different than
those of Credit Card companies. Credit Card companies take the money back
from the vendor in the cases of fraudulent use of the cards. Since paypal
requires the user to be in control of the money being transferred (meaning
that the account hold initiates the transfer, so the vendor cannot
arbitrarily charge to your account) when fraud takes place, unless the
vendor was the source of the fraud the vendor doesn't incure the charge
back. So in the long run the vendors benefit more from paypal than from
Credit Cards.
At 10:53 PM 8/8/2002 -0700, you wrote:
percentage. With Credit Cards they have a rate scale that is based on how
the card is taken, if your in person, and scan and sign for the order its
the lowest. The highest rate is if its taken over the Internet or
telephone. The highest charge back comes from these transactions because
without a signature the Credit card company more often than not must refund
anything that is contested.
Paypal has it's place, and its intended use was to be the middleman on
transactions made between individuals across the internet. It's only
natural that small business would begin taking it as a form of payment. I
am also surprised that more and more strictly Internet based companies are
not using it exclusively. Paypal's dispute procedures are different than
those of Credit Card companies. Credit Card companies take the money back
from the vendor in the cases of fraudulent use of the cards. Since paypal
requires the user to be in control of the money being transferred (meaning
that the account hold initiates the transfer, so the vendor cannot
arbitrarily charge to your account) when fraud takes place, unless the
vendor was the source of the fraud the vendor doesn't incure the charge
back. So in the long run the vendors benefit more from paypal than from
Credit Cards.
At 10:53 PM 8/8/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>I'm sure Chuck can speak for himself, but I'd bet the fees for regular
>credit card
>transactions outstrip the hit from PayPal.
>
>
>Mark
>
>lulalake_1999 wrote:
>
> > Pay Pal is making gobs of money and
> > where does it come from? from the seller. Uh Huh. If it costs X
> > amount to the seller, where will the seller get that money? From the
> > buyer by goosing the price of the goods to the buyer the same or
> > more what it's costing the seller.
>
>
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May be, but the convienience and safety make it worth it. IMO anyway. I
use Paypal all the time and would be inconvienienced without it. I'd like
to thank Duckworks for offering that option.
Jeff
use Paypal all the time and would be inconvienienced without it. I'd like
to thank Duckworks for offering that option.
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "lulalake_1999" <lulalake_1999@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 11:14 PM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Jim Michalak's new book
> And a bit further, I dont want to be forced to become a member of
> paypal just in order to buy something over the net.
> As much as I really like and enjoy Ducksworth I think it's pretty
> frikkin sleazy to force potential buyers into some Borglike
> organization just to do business with them.
>
> Also it's not a great deal. Pay Pal is making gobs of money and
> where does it come from? from the seller. Uh Huh. If it costs X
> amount to the seller, where will the seller get that money? From the
> buyer by goosing the price of the goods to the buyer the same or
> more what it's costing the seller.
> It's a great deal, it's just that Pay Pal is a real painJules,
> If you get some other way to pay besides/along with Pay Pal, I'd
> love to get one from you
I'm guessing you can use the order form at this URL to order by mail.
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/orderform.htm
Sincerely,
Rav (who also plans to order this way)
Hi Chuck,
It's a great deal, it's just that Pay Pal is a real pain to go
through. They demand that you have an account with them in order for
you to buy a book.
I tried to get a book today and it ended up a big hassle.
If you get some other way to pay besides/along with Pay Pal, I'd
love to get one from you otherwise,
No Thanks.
Jules
It's a great deal, it's just that Pay Pal is a real pain to go
through. They demand that you have an account with them in order for
you to buy a book.
I tried to get a book today and it ended up a big hassle.
If you get some other way to pay besides/along with Pay Pal, I'd
love to get one from you otherwise,
No Thanks.
Jules
--- In bolger@y..., "Chuck Leinweber" <chuck@d...> wrote:
> Hey guys, I just got a big carton full of Jim's new
book "Boatbuilding for Beginners (and beyond)" fresh from the
printers. You can buy them at: www.duckworksmagazine.com Besides
the illustrated essays and instructions, there are complete fold-out
plans for five of Jim's designs. For 17 bucks, I don't know what
more you would want.
>
> Chuck
>
>
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Hey guys, I just got a big carton full of Jim's new book "Boatbuilding for Beginners (and beyond)" fresh from the printers. You can buy them at: www.duckworksmagazine.com Besides the illustrated essays and instructions, there are complete fold-out plans for five of Jim's designs. For 17 bucks, I don't know what more you would want.
Chuck
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Chuck
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