Re: Digest Number 1141 - Roof Racks & 'Long' Boats
You must still be employed. $250 is WAY beyond my budget for anything
I don't really need right now. Sounds convenient, tho. If I get a
trailer what's to stop me from starting a Folding Schooner or other
foolish excess? I do have other hobbies to support. Thanks for the
idea, tho, I'm sure for some people it could be very practical.
]--- In bolger@y..., "Ron Magen" <quohog@w...> wrote:
I don't really need right now. Sounds convenient, tho. If I get a
trailer what's to stop me from starting a Folding Schooner or other
foolish excess? I do have other hobbies to support. Thanks for the
idea, tho, I'm sure for some people it could be very practical.
]--- In bolger@y..., "Ron Magen" <quohog@w...> wrote:
> To 'mlocnil',snip
> There certainly have been a varied lot of suggestions.
>
>worth
> The trailer was about $250 and a leisurely day of my time. Well
> it. There are a few other approaches that may be less expensive;look
> for USED TRAILERS in the 'boats' section of the classifieds, look atnew
> small or 'PWC' types {easily modified with a wrench & some plywood},or
> build your own using '2x6' or '2x8' stock for framing {plans are. .
> available from at least 3 sources}
>
> The hitch can be gotten from Saturn, or talk to your local U-Haul,
> Hitch-World, etc. If you are 'low in funds', at least get the hitch
> . really worth it.on
>
> Regards,
> Ron Magen
> Backyard Boatshop
>
> > Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 19:43:50 -0800
> > From: "Harry W. James" <welshman@p...>
> > Subject: Re: long boat on plastic car
> >
> > You can buy a mount from Saturn for a towing hitch . . .
>
> > rnlocnil wrote:
> > >
> > > Anyone have any tips on how to secure bow and stern on 14' boat
> tophigh
> > > of '93 Saturn SL?
> > >
> > From: Mark Albanese <marka@h...>
> > I put a few miles with a Windsprint atop a decent sized car and
> strength rack, usingonly up
> > ganged up schock cords for each end. It steadied that one, but
> to 55. I just wentthe
> > around the metal bumper and hooked them from behind. Just fiddled
> combining lengths a bit to get the perfect tension.
> >
> > One wouldn't go so far as to have to get all the way underneath
> car each time to findhook
> > them, but the Saturn might have someplace handy to grab a metal
> down under.the
> >
> > If there's anything solid to tie to, it will definitely involve
> > crawling around under the car or else threatening the integrity of
> > hood or trunk. THat's why I asked. I've done a good deal ofcrawling
> > around already and have found one spotholes
> >
> > The trailer hitch is a good idea for those with the budget for it.
> > Maybe when I get a job...
> >
> >
> > Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 17:07:42 -0000
> > From: "brucehallman" <brucehallman@y...>
> > Subject: Re: long boat on plastic car
> >
> > --- In bolger@y..., Mark Albanese <marka@h...> wrote:
> > > >Maybe somebody else has a bow idea.
> >
> > A few years back someone in MAIB described this method:
> >
> > Open the hood and locate some strong looking bolts, in my car the
> > fender is bolted to the engine well about every 8 inches with 3/8"
> > bolts. Take two lengths of nylon strapping and melt two 3/8"
> > in each, and connect to car with the fender bolts. These strapscan
> > then loop outside the engine compartment with the hood close. Iplastic
> > attach to these loops with 'blue strap' ratcheting web straps.
> >
> > I put them both on the front and the back.
> >
> > Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 15:56:17 EDT
> > From: wmrpage@a...
> > Subject: Re: Re: long boat on plastic car
> >
> >
> > I'm impressed!! Thanks for sharing. I need to file this away where
> I'll find
> > it when I have to replace my 20 yr. old import with a newer
> car!
> >
> > Ciao for Niao,
> > Bill in MN
To 'mlocnil',
There certainly have been a varied lot of suggestions.
My wife loves her Saturn, and it is an amazing & agile vehicle. It can
be loaded like a 'Tardis' !! The 'plastic' is also nice considering she
has to leave the car in a parking lot at work . . .Some marks from the
inept, but none of the small yet annoying scrapes & dings.
My 'vehicle' is an 18-year old Toyota pick-up. The rear 'step bumper'
has a 'towing ball' installed. The 'trailer lighting hook-up' was
installed by a local U-HAUL. {I have since found that they use a
proprietary type of connector; it needs a 'converter' for most trailer
connections} Since our 'big boat' is a West Wight Potter 19, this works
out very well.
While the Saturn is excellent, and can take a bigger load than one
thinks, Joanne really likes having the load capacity of the truck
available. Especially for the 'messy' items like bags of dirt or bales
of Peat Moss for her garden, or 8-foot '2x4's for the Rose Arbor I built
her. Because of this, and the age of the truck, we did a little thinking
ahead. Joanne asked about the towing capacity when she bought the car {a
small 'receiver hitch' is available}, and I bought and assembled a
'Collapsible' Utility Trailer. {I also found a used WWP-15 that I am
re-furbishing . . . just in case}
While the capacity of the trailer is 1,000 pounds, it is doubtful we
will ever get close to than, nor, I believe, would the boats under
discussion. The bed is a 4x8 sheet of 3/4 ply. With the forward 'A'
frame and tongue in position, there is more than enough room for a 14
foot boat. Depending on how I balanced the rig, I could probably tow a
20-footer. With the plywood 'deck' it would be a simple manner to build
& attach a custom 'cradle' for the desired boat.
The trailer was about $250 and a leisurely day of my time. Well worth
it. There are a few other approaches that may be less expensive; look
for USED TRAILERS in the 'boats' section of the classifieds, look at new
small or 'PWC' types {easily modified with a wrench & some plywood}, or
build your own using '2x6' or '2x8' stock for framing {plans are
available from at least 3 sources}
The hitch can be gotten from Saturn, or talk to your local U-Haul,
Hitch-World, etc. If you are 'low in funds', at least get the hitch . .
. really worth it.
Regards,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop
There certainly have been a varied lot of suggestions.
My wife loves her Saturn, and it is an amazing & agile vehicle. It can
be loaded like a 'Tardis' !! The 'plastic' is also nice considering she
has to leave the car in a parking lot at work . . .Some marks from the
inept, but none of the small yet annoying scrapes & dings.
My 'vehicle' is an 18-year old Toyota pick-up. The rear 'step bumper'
has a 'towing ball' installed. The 'trailer lighting hook-up' was
installed by a local U-HAUL. {I have since found that they use a
proprietary type of connector; it needs a 'converter' for most trailer
connections} Since our 'big boat' is a West Wight Potter 19, this works
out very well.
While the Saturn is excellent, and can take a bigger load than one
thinks, Joanne really likes having the load capacity of the truck
available. Especially for the 'messy' items like bags of dirt or bales
of Peat Moss for her garden, or 8-foot '2x4's for the Rose Arbor I built
her. Because of this, and the age of the truck, we did a little thinking
ahead. Joanne asked about the towing capacity when she bought the car {a
small 'receiver hitch' is available}, and I bought and assembled a
'Collapsible' Utility Trailer. {I also found a used WWP-15 that I am
re-furbishing . . . just in case}
While the capacity of the trailer is 1,000 pounds, it is doubtful we
will ever get close to than, nor, I believe, would the boats under
discussion. The bed is a 4x8 sheet of 3/4 ply. With the forward 'A'
frame and tongue in position, there is more than enough room for a 14
foot boat. Depending on how I balanced the rig, I could probably tow a
20-footer. With the plywood 'deck' it would be a simple manner to build
& attach a custom 'cradle' for the desired boat.
The trailer was about $250 and a leisurely day of my time. Well worth
it. There are a few other approaches that may be less expensive; look
for USED TRAILERS in the 'boats' section of the classifieds, look at new
small or 'PWC' types {easily modified with a wrench & some plywood}, or
build your own using '2x6' or '2x8' stock for framing {plans are
available from at least 3 sources}
The hitch can be gotten from Saturn, or talk to your local U-Haul,
Hitch-World, etc. If you are 'low in funds', at least get the hitch . .
. really worth it.
Regards,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop
> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 19:43:50 -0800top
> From: "Harry W. James" <welshman@...>
> Subject: Re: long boat on plastic car
>
> You can buy a mount from Saturn for a towing hitch . . .
> rnlocnil wrote:
> >
> > Anyone have any tips on how to secure bow and stern on 14' boat on
> > of '93 Saturn SL?strength rack, using
> >
> From: Mark Albanese <marka@...>
> I put a few miles with a Windsprint atop a decent sized car and high
> ganged up schock cords for each end. It steadied that one, but only upto 55. I just went
> around the metal bumper and hooked them from behind. Just fiddledcombining lengths a bit to get the perfect tension.
>car each time to find
> One wouldn't go so far as to have to get all the way underneath the
> them, but the Saturn might have someplace handy to grab a metal hookdown under.
>I'll find
> If there's anything solid to tie to, it will definitely involve
> crawling around under the car or else threatening the integrity of the
> hood or trunk. THat's why I asked. I've done a good deal of crawling
> around already and have found one spot
>
> The trailer hitch is a good idea for those with the budget for it.
> Maybe when I get a job...
>
>
> Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 17:07:42 -0000
> From: "brucehallman" <brucehallman@...>
> Subject: Re: long boat on plastic car
>
> --- In bolger@y..., Mark Albanese <marka@h...> wrote:
> > >Maybe somebody else has a bow idea.
>
> A few years back someone in MAIB described this method:
>
> Open the hood and locate some strong looking bolts, in my car the
> fender is bolted to the engine well about every 8 inches with 3/8"
> bolts. Take two lengths of nylon strapping and melt two 3/8" holes
> in each, and connect to car with the fender bolts. These straps can
> then loop outside the engine compartment with the hood close. I
> attach to these loops with 'blue strap' ratcheting web straps.
>
> I put them both on the front and the back.
>
> Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 15:56:17 EDT
> From:wmrpage@...
> Subject: Re: Re: long boat on plastic car
>
>
> I'm impressed!! Thanks for sharing. I need to file this away where
> it when I have to replace my 20 yr. old import with a newer plasticcar!
>
> Ciao for Niao,
> Bill in MN