[bolger] Re: Pelican - 12
Tim:
Have you thought about making a sail rig for your June Bug?
Chuck Leinweber
Duckworks Magazine
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com
Have you thought about making a sail rig for your June Bug?
Chuck Leinweber
Duckworks Magazine
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com
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From: T Webber <tbertw@...>
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Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 8:02 AM
Subject: [bolger] Pelican - 12
> List,
>
> I realize that this is a BOLGER list. I have a general question about
> experiences with the Pelican Family of Boats. I am looking for a simple
> boat to take to a very small lake and moderate sized lake for single
> handing. We have a year round sailing climate, tho the water is very cool
> in the winter. The 12' Pelican seems to fill that bill nicely.
>
> Does anyone on this list have any personal insights, opinions or
> experiences with this boat?
>
> Tim - the one near Houston
>
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At 01:06 PM 02/04/2000 -0800, you wrote:
Yes, I have 1 70 sq foot balanced Lug from Michalak. I have made the mast.
I need to have some time and warm weather to get the sprit, rudder and
leeboard fashioned. The main concern is that a 4 hour sail in a June Bug is
not going to be very comfortable. A larger boat affords seats and and
opportunity to stand occasionally. Also, I want something that is more
stable.
Tim
>Tim:Chuck,
>
>Have you thought about making a sail rig for your June Bug?
>
>Chuck Leinweber
>Duckworks Magazine
>http://www.duckworksmagazine.com
Yes, I have 1 70 sq foot balanced Lug from Michalak. I have made the mast.
I need to have some time and warm weather to get the sprit, rudder and
leeboard fashioned. The main concern is that a 4 hour sail in a June Bug is
not going to be very comfortable. A larger boat affords seats and and
opportunity to stand occasionally. Also, I want something that is more
stable.
Tim
I assume you mean the venerable design often called the San Francisco
Bay Pelican. I don't really know anything about the Pelican, but there
are a couple of points that I would look into before I went ahead with
one.
Since it is a design that has survived for a long time, you can trust
that it meets the needs of a lot of people, sails pretty well, etc.
Since your requirements, as I understand them, are pretty basic, I am
sure that it would do. The question is, would something else do better,
or be easier.
First, if it really is designed for SF Bay (a windy place) and you wish
to sail on inland lakes (generally not windy places), you might compare
the sail area to other boats of the same length/beam/weight. Of these,
weight is probably the biggest factor. Sail area on small boats will
range from about 75 to 125 square feet. A boat with too little sail
area is a very dull thing to sail in light winds.
Second, it you are going to build it yourself, you might compare the
construction to newer designs. The newer ones may take advantage of the
holding power of modern glues (especially epoxy) and of glass cloth to
reduce the need for high precision woodwork. The total number of pieces
to make and fit could be much less in a newer design.
Third, consider alternatives. One that comes to mind right away is the
Caravelle at www.bateau.com. It is generally similar kind of boat, a
newer design but also well-proven. Of Mr. Bolger's designs, there are
Fieldmouse, Featherwind, Oldshoe, Gypsy, Sparkler, Zephyr, Spartina,
etc. What is the name of the one designed for Japan's Inland Sea? Many,
many options.
Fourth, consider the sources of advice. If you buy plans from a living
designer, you have someone to call if you have a problem.
One final thought: consider what you may want to do about auxillary
power for those times when the wind drops. A boat that is set up for
rowing may be preferable to one that you have to paddle.
Peter
Bay Pelican. I don't really know anything about the Pelican, but there
are a couple of points that I would look into before I went ahead with
one.
Since it is a design that has survived for a long time, you can trust
that it meets the needs of a lot of people, sails pretty well, etc.
Since your requirements, as I understand them, are pretty basic, I am
sure that it would do. The question is, would something else do better,
or be easier.
First, if it really is designed for SF Bay (a windy place) and you wish
to sail on inland lakes (generally not windy places), you might compare
the sail area to other boats of the same length/beam/weight. Of these,
weight is probably the biggest factor. Sail area on small boats will
range from about 75 to 125 square feet. A boat with too little sail
area is a very dull thing to sail in light winds.
Second, it you are going to build it yourself, you might compare the
construction to newer designs. The newer ones may take advantage of the
holding power of modern glues (especially epoxy) and of glass cloth to
reduce the need for high precision woodwork. The total number of pieces
to make and fit could be much less in a newer design.
Third, consider alternatives. One that comes to mind right away is the
Caravelle at www.bateau.com. It is generally similar kind of boat, a
newer design but also well-proven. Of Mr. Bolger's designs, there are
Fieldmouse, Featherwind, Oldshoe, Gypsy, Sparkler, Zephyr, Spartina,
etc. What is the name of the one designed for Japan's Inland Sea? Many,
many options.
Fourth, consider the sources of advice. If you buy plans from a living
designer, you have someone to call if you have a problem.
One final thought: consider what you may want to do about auxillary
power for those times when the wind drops. A boat that is set up for
rowing may be preferable to one that you have to paddle.
Peter
List,
I realize that this is a BOLGER list. I have a general question about
experiences with the Pelican Family of Boats. I am looking for a simple
boat to take to a very small lake and moderate sized lake for single
handing. We have a year round sailing climate, tho the water is very cool
in the winter. The 12' Pelican seems to fill that bill nicely.
Does anyone on this list have any personal insights, opinions or
experiences with this boat?
Tim - the one near Houston
I realize that this is a BOLGER list. I have a general question about
experiences with the Pelican Family of Boats. I am looking for a simple
boat to take to a very small lake and moderate sized lake for single
handing. We have a year round sailing climate, tho the water is very cool
in the winter. The 12' Pelican seems to fill that bill nicely.
Does anyone on this list have any personal insights, opinions or
experiences with this boat?
Tim - the one near Houston