Re: Super Brick/Super Scow
--- In bolger@y..., "saltyboat" <bruceh@t...> wrote:
rocking horse.
DonB
> > From: "Ken" <renueden@e...>And when you get bored, you can run it ashore and have a great fun
> > Subject: Re: Super Duper Brick Update
> > What do people think about the flat front end?
> Can it sail? Who cares! Plus, it probably does sail just fine.
rocking horse.
DonB
Arrgggh! Don't we all laddie?
--- In bolger@y..., "saltyboat" <bruceh@t...> wrote:
> > How does Bolger put it? ...an affront to right minded boaters...
>
> His actual quote from BWAOM is:
>
> "A gratuitous mockery of Right-Thinking Boatment and other snobs."
>
> That is a big part of the reason why I like Super Brick.
> How does Bolger put it? ...an affront to right minded boaters...His actual quote from BWAOM is:
"A gratuitous mockery of Right-Thinking Boatment and other snobs."
That is a big part of the reason why I like Super Brick.
> From: "Ken" <renueden@...>I find it cosmetically ugly, but the 'function' is beautiful.
> Subject: Re: Super Duper Brick Update
> What do people think about the flat front end?
Imagine a double berth, plus the two transom berths, drop leaf
table, large ice box, galley & washroom with standing headroom,
dresser/desk/bureau with seat, enclosed head, two hanging lockers,
enclosed engine compartment, tons of storage, AND a disco deck <g>,
in a twenty foot hull! [19'6" actually!!!]
Can it sail? Who cares! Plus, it probably does sail just fine.
How does Bolger put it? ...an affront to right minded boaters...
>From: "binksboats" <binksboats@...>The yard is 29'6" and the boom is 19'6" as is the hull, with rudder
> the boom will stick way out past the
> stern. I can't see keeping this on a trailor
> and the marina will make you pay for all that boom and yard.
perhaps another 2'. On a trailer, the yard could hang forward,
perhaps 6' above the trailer tongue.
In a marina, well, maybe the solution is to lash the folded lanteen
rig in the vertical direction to the mast. Wind resistance in a
blow might be the same as a Marconi rig.
The yard should weigh about 48 to 50 pounds in spruce [@ 27 lb/cf].
The whole sail, perhaps 120 pounds.
>From: "announcer97624" <caj@...>I just saw an old scow schooner in Eagle Harbor, Bainbridge Island,
> ...scow schooners...
WA...
http://www.hallman.org/bolger/spur/row/c.jpg
...and it looked to make a really cool live-a-board.
A Brick is almost a scow in my eyes.
In volume 3 of Wooden Boat they show the restoration of the Alma. In
a volume of the Small Boat Journal is a Bolger Sail Scow Schooner.
The Bolger has lee boards while Alma had a huge centerboard. The
cover shot on Wooden Boat #3 shows Alma under full sail in the Master
Mariner race. I'll post pictures of both as soon as my wife finishes
our network project. She does it for a living and doesn't want to
play computers when she comes home. I can't kneel or bend over at
this point in time so I have been sternly warned if I do it, all the
computers will disappear. It will happen this weekend!
If the Bolger Scow had a longer cabin instead of a cargo hatch it
would be a much better live aboard than the Superbrick. The way it is
drawn now you have to leave the cabin and go to another smaller cabin
at the bow that serves as the head. I always like the head in the
stern area because of any odoriferous fumes travel from bow to stern.
I am positive that can ruin a honeymoon!
John
a volume of the Small Boat Journal is a Bolger Sail Scow Schooner.
The Bolger has lee boards while Alma had a huge centerboard. The
cover shot on Wooden Boat #3 shows Alma under full sail in the Master
Mariner race. I'll post pictures of both as soon as my wife finishes
our network project. She does it for a living and doesn't want to
play computers when she comes home. I can't kneel or bend over at
this point in time so I have been sternly warned if I do it, all the
computers will disappear. It will happen this weekend!
If the Bolger Scow had a longer cabin instead of a cargo hatch it
would be a much better live aboard than the Superbrick. The way it is
drawn now you have to leave the cabin and go to another smaller cabin
at the bow that serves as the head. I always like the head in the
stern area because of any odoriferous fumes travel from bow to stern.
I am positive that can ruin a honeymoon!
John
--- In bolger@y..., "binksboats" <binksboats@y...> wrote:
> Like the National Park Service's scow schooner, Alma, SB has a flat
> scow nose. Like the Alma the nose is carried up in the air...its
the
> bottom and chine that intersect the water. The SB plans have a
> cutwater modification to the bow. The cutwater is 7'10" long, 2'
wide
> tapering to a straight stem, 1' deep at the bow. It adds buoyancy
to
> the bow and helps cut through waves instead of smashing nose first
> into them. The original rig for the SB was to be a
> two-master...a yawl rig. She was supposed to be flush-decked
also. I
> still think the first drawing looked best with a huge deck to pace
and
> a waist-high railing all around.
Like the National Park Service's scow schooner, Alma, SB has a flat
scow nose. Like the Alma the nose is carried up in the air...its the
bottom and chine that intersect the water. The SB plans have a
cutwater modification to the bow. The cutwater is 7'10" long, 2' wide
tapering to a straight stem, 1' deep at the bow. It adds buoyancy to
the bow and helps cut through waves instead of smashing nose first
into them. The original rig for the SB was to be a
two-master...a yawl rig. She was supposed to be flush-decked also. I
still think the first drawing looked best with a huge deck to pace and
a waist-high railing all around.
scow nose. Like the Alma the nose is carried up in the air...its the
bottom and chine that intersect the water. The SB plans have a
cutwater modification to the bow. The cutwater is 7'10" long, 2' wide
tapering to a straight stem, 1' deep at the bow. It adds buoyancy to
the bow and helps cut through waves instead of smashing nose first
into them. The original rig for the SB was to be a
two-master...a yawl rig. She was supposed to be flush-decked also. I
still think the first drawing looked best with a huge deck to pace and
a waist-high railing all around.