Re: [bolger] Re: Dovekie, Shear water
Bruce- I'll try for a design number, also. Will see Peter soon. It's
one word: Shearwater.
If you give me your address, I'll send you one of the factory flyers
about both "Ultra Shoal Boats". Leo
one word: Shearwater.
If you give me your address, I'll send you one of the factory flyers
about both "Ultra Shoal Boats". Leo
I bought my Dovekie 7 years ago from the fellow who had the last
Shearwater made - hull #11, named Paloma. He's in Annapolis, MD and
still has her. He'd still have MY Dovekie too - but his wife said she
wanted her yard back - my good luck!
Many of the Shearwater owners are folks who "moved up" to the much
more commodious accommodations of the Shearwater - the flip side of
that is that many of them miss the quick launching "spur of the
moment" sails that Dovekie enables. Best of both worlds - own both!
(and some do!)
Shearwater #1 was recently listed for sale in the SWS newsletter for
16K.
I'm off to start loading my camping/cruising gear into the Dovekie
for a 9 day sail along Chesapeake Bay's eastern shore. Can't wait!!
Jake
Shearwater made - hull #11, named Paloma. He's in Annapolis, MD and
still has her. He'd still have MY Dovekie too - but his wife said she
wanted her yard back - my good luck!
Many of the Shearwater owners are folks who "moved up" to the much
more commodious accommodations of the Shearwater - the flip side of
that is that many of them miss the quick launching "spur of the
moment" sails that Dovekie enables. Best of both worlds - own both!
(and some do!)
Shearwater #1 was recently listed for sale in the SWS newsletter for
16K.
I'm off to start loading my camping/cruising gear into the Dovekie
for a 9 day sail along Chesapeake Bay's eastern shore. Can't wait!!
Jake
--- In bolger@y..., Leoandsandy@J... wrote:
> After a quick conference with Peter Duff, past owner of Edey &
Duff, I'll
> have the exact numbers about Shearwaters; and also I'll try to get
an
> estimate about what percent PB and Peter each
> contributed to the design. It was not a straight PB design, but a
> project between two long-time friends.
> As for being "somewhat cruiseable", I'd rather you checked with the
> owners- for cruisers, they are.
>
> Now about the Dovekie: I have been cruising my Dovekie, Waterbed,
since
> '87, usually for two weeks at time with other Dovekies and
Shearwaters
> together in what Peter Duff called a "Magnum Opus". Most of the
other
> Dovekies have power; ours has sail, oars, and also sculls quite
nicely.
>
> Magnum Opi for Waterbed from '87 thru '02 have been: Parry Sound,
St
> John River (NB), the Trent- Severn Waterway, the Maine Island
Trail, the
> Islands south of Cape Cod, the Waubashene area of Georgian Bay, the
Snug
> Harbor area of Georgian Bay, The Rideau Canal, Buzzards Bay area,
Lake
> Champlain, Moosehead Lake, return to Lake Champlain, The North
Channel-
> launching at Little Current, More North Channel- launching at
Spanish and
> sailing SE, Cuttyhunk Island and Ellizabeth Islands, and then this
> summer we launched at Spanish again, sailing one week in each
direction.
> So we have had fantastic cruises in our Dovekie. But now I've
grown
> fond of John Gerty's Martha Jane- Zephyr. Damn!
> Leo
>
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--- In bolger@y..., Leoandsandy@J... wrote:
Bolger 'design number', we should/
I would like to add it to the
database of Bolger designs on
our groups.
Is the correct spelling
'Shearwater' or
"Shear Water"?
> estimate about what percent PB and Peter eachIf possible, could you learn the
> contributed to the design. It was not a straight PB design, but a
> project between two long-time friends.
Bolger 'design number', we should/
I would like to add it to the
database of Bolger designs on
our groups.
Is the correct spelling
'Shearwater' or
"Shear Water"?
After a quick conference with Peter Duff, past owner of Edey & Duff, I'll
have the exact numbers about Shearwaters; and also I'll try to get an
estimate about what percent PB and Peter each
contributed to the design. It was not a straight PB design, but a
project between two long-time friends.
As for being "somewhat cruiseable", I'd rather you checked with the
owners- for cruisers, they are.
Now about the Dovekie: I have been cruising my Dovekie, Waterbed, since
'87, usually for two weeks at time with other Dovekies and Shearwaters
together in what Peter Duff called a "Magnum Opus". Most of the other
Dovekies have power; ours has sail, oars, and also sculls quite nicely.
Magnum Opi for Waterbed from '87 thru '02 have been: Parry Sound, St
John River (NB), the Trent- Severn Waterway, the Maine Island Trail, the
Islands south of Cape Cod, the Waubashene area of Georgian Bay, the Snug
Harbor area of Georgian Bay, The Rideau Canal, Buzzards Bay area, Lake
Champlain, Moosehead Lake, return to Lake Champlain, The North Channel-
launching at Little Current, More North Channel- launching at Spanish and
sailing SE, Cuttyhunk Island and Ellizabeth Islands, and then this
summer we launched at Spanish again, sailing one week in each direction.
So we have had fantastic cruises in our Dovekie. But now I've grown
fond of John Gerty's Martha Jane- Zephyr. Damn!
Leo
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have the exact numbers about Shearwaters; and also I'll try to get an
estimate about what percent PB and Peter each
contributed to the design. It was not a straight PB design, but a
project between two long-time friends.
As for being "somewhat cruiseable", I'd rather you checked with the
owners- for cruisers, they are.
Now about the Dovekie: I have been cruising my Dovekie, Waterbed, since
'87, usually for two weeks at time with other Dovekies and Shearwaters
together in what Peter Duff called a "Magnum Opus". Most of the other
Dovekies have power; ours has sail, oars, and also sculls quite nicely.
Magnum Opi for Waterbed from '87 thru '02 have been: Parry Sound, St
John River (NB), the Trent- Severn Waterway, the Maine Island Trail, the
Islands south of Cape Cod, the Waubashene area of Georgian Bay, the Snug
Harbor area of Georgian Bay, The Rideau Canal, Buzzards Bay area, Lake
Champlain, Moosehead Lake, return to Lake Champlain, The North Channel-
launching at Little Current, More North Channel- launching at Spanish and
sailing SE, Cuttyhunk Island and Ellizabeth Islands, and then this
summer we launched at Spanish again, sailing one week in each direction.
So we have had fantastic cruises in our Dovekie. But now I've grown
fond of John Gerty's Martha Jane- Zephyr. Damn!
Leo
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--- In bolger@y..., "brucehallman" <brucehallman@y...> wrote:
basis of service. But it has never really washed that the clossest
thing to Dovekie was Birdwatcher. Advertising stick for Dovekie has
never included the sailing a glass sided boat while watching the fish
service requirement. I say Anhingha is Dovekie, if you just had
enough weight, or possibly Martha Jane. I don't recall Skilligallee
being all that modern a design, but the size is about there.
> --- In bolger@y..., "pvanderwaart" <pvanderw@o...> wrote:Agreed... or perhaps that's what we are supposed to think on the
>
> > You could think of Skilligallee as the homebuild version
>
> Yes. ...or perhaps, Whale Watcher?
basis of service. But it has never really washed that the clossest
thing to Dovekie was Birdwatcher. Advertising stick for Dovekie has
never included the sailing a glass sided boat while watching the fish
service requirement. I say Anhingha is Dovekie, if you just had
enough weight, or possibly Martha Jane. I don't recall Skilligallee
being all that modern a design, but the size is about there.
Yep, Bolger design and reviewed in SBJ 52. Its not the Bolger Cartoon
for that month, but a separate article The reviewer is Roger Taylor, and
he had her semi planing off the wind with 2 reefs, in the course of the
sail. He camped out in her for a couple of days taking advantage of her
shallow draft (4" boards up), to get to places most don't anchor. He
says so so to windward and very fast off the wind. Length 28'3", Beam
6'6" Draft Board up 4" Board down 3'4", SA 233 Weight Unballasted 1200,
Ballasted 1860. If I lived in Florida or the Chesapeake, I would watch
the adds for a used one.
HJ
s_paskey wrote:
for that month, but a separate article The reviewer is Roger Taylor, and
he had her semi planing off the wind with 2 reefs, in the course of the
sail. He camped out in her for a couple of days taking advantage of her
shallow draft (4" boards up), to get to places most don't anchor. He
says so so to windward and very fast off the wind. Length 28'3", Beam
6'6" Draft Board up 4" Board down 3'4", SA 233 Weight Unballasted 1200,
Ballasted 1860. If I lived in Florida or the Chesapeake, I would watch
the adds for a used one.
HJ
s_paskey wrote:
>
> I don't know if Bolger designed it, but you're right in thinking that
> not many Shearwaters were built -- only a few dozen, I think.
>
> Below is a link to a photo of the design. She also appeared within
> the last year on the cover of MAIB -- some folks erroneously thought
> it was a Dovekie and chastised MAIB for printing a photo of a Dovekie
> under power (as opposed to oars, as PCB intended).
>
> There must be a review in Small Boat Journal somewhere. Maybe #52,
> Jan 1987, which an online index lists as including an article about a
> 28-foot sharpie called Shearwater?
>
> Steve
>
--- In bolger@y..., "pvanderwaart" <pvanderw@o...> wrote:
> You could think of Skilligallee as the homebuild versionYes. ...or perhaps, Whale Watcher?
Yes, it was a PCB design, Edy & Duff build. I think I read that
production ran to about 30 boats. It has water ballast and enough
room to be somewhat cruisable, which Dovekie really isn't. Also set
up for ob power, which Dovkie isn't.
You could think of Skilligallee as the homebuild version, I suppose.
PHV
production ran to about 30 boats. It has water ballast and enough
room to be somewhat cruisable, which Dovekie really isn't. Also set
up for ob power, which Dovkie isn't.
You could think of Skilligallee as the homebuild version, I suppose.
PHV
I don't know if Bolger designed it, but you're right in thinking that
not many Shearwaters were built -- only a few dozen, I think.
Below is a link to a photo of the design. She also appeared within
the last year on the cover of MAIB -- some folks erroneously thought
it was a Dovekie and chastised MAIB for printing a photo of a Dovekie
under power (as opposed to oars, as PCB intended).
There must be a review in Small Boat Journal somewhere. Maybe #52,
Jan 1987, which an online index lists as including an article about a
28-foot sharpie called Shearwater?
Steve
www.trailersailor.com/sws/99-3-dec/index.html
not many Shearwaters were built -- only a few dozen, I think.
Below is a link to a photo of the design. She also appeared within
the last year on the cover of MAIB -- some folks erroneously thought
it was a Dovekie and chastised MAIB for printing a photo of a Dovekie
under power (as opposed to oars, as PCB intended).
There must be a review in Small Boat Journal somewhere. Maybe #52,
Jan 1987, which an online index lists as including an article about a
28-foot sharpie called Shearwater?
Steve
www.trailersailor.com/sws/99-3-dec/index.html
--- In bolger@y..., "brucehallman" <brucehallman@y...> wrote:
>
I just stumbled into an old advertisement for "Shear water"
billed as Dovekie's big sister.
>
Though there is a "Shearwater" in the database, it is a keel boat and
is not the same.
>
Do you think "Shear water" is a PCB design? It seems
like it must be! She had 'Airex PVC foam composite construction'.
>
Do doubt not many Shearwaters were built.
Dovekie is a shoaldraft trailer
cruiser, designed by PCB in 1975
with oar power auxilary for production
by Eddy and Duff. You see them
being resold in MAIB almost every
issue.
Birdwatcher was designed to
be a 'home built' Dovekie.
I just stumbled into an old
advertisement for "Shear water"
billed as Dovekie's big
sister.
Though there is a "Shearwater"
in the database, it is a
keel boat and is not the same.
Do you think "Shear water" is
a PCB design? It seems
like it must be!
She had 'Airex PVC foam
composite construction'.
Do doubt not many Shearwaters
were built.
==========
http://www.hallman.org/bolger/Shearwater/
==========
Shearwater, Dovekie's big sister.
Eddy and Duff advertisement Jan. 1985
SHEAR WATER is a big sister to
DOVEKIE in everything but age. She will float in
as little as 4" of water (so long as you can restrain
yourself from filling her cavernous stowage areas
with unnecessary junk). She will weigh only about
1200 pounds. Thus she fulfills the two most
sisterly attributes, ultra shoal draft and ultra
trailerability.
And bigger she is. She is 28' 3" long. She'll
sleep
four in two separate cabins: two aft under canvas,
as has proven so successful on DOVEKIE, and the
other two forward in the bow, under the perma-
nent deck. Her cockpit will accomodate her crew,
comfortably, on the windward side, on seats with
nice high backs. Her helmsman sits a few inches
higher so can see over their heads, and over the
bow without having to stand. She has room enough
for a separate, enclosed head. While still a back-
packer's boat, she has many of the attributes of a
small yacht.
And has bigger capabilities. Her cockpit is self-
bailing. Her ventilation system, and the openings in
her cabin and lockers are designed to be rendered
watertight quickly and easily. Thus she can rou-
tinely be taken to sea. Being unballasted, and of
Airex PVC foam composite construction through-
out, she won't let you down and sink in the hardest
of hard chances.
But, as with her little sister, it's in the shallows
that SHEARWATER really excells. Her 4" draft
easily doubles or triples the cruising areas available
to you... even on a bold coast.
If the idea of a seagoing, trailerable, peerlessly
shoal cruising boat appeals, send $2.95 ($3US if
foreign) for a brochure and price list describing
SHEARWATER.
cruiser, designed by PCB in 1975
with oar power auxilary for production
by Eddy and Duff. You see them
being resold in MAIB almost every
issue.
Birdwatcher was designed to
be a 'home built' Dovekie.
I just stumbled into an old
advertisement for "Shear water"
billed as Dovekie's big
sister.
Though there is a "Shearwater"
in the database, it is a
keel boat and is not the same.
Do you think "Shear water" is
a PCB design? It seems
like it must be!
She had 'Airex PVC foam
composite construction'.
Do doubt not many Shearwaters
were built.
==========
http://www.hallman.org/bolger/Shearwater/
==========
Shearwater, Dovekie's big sister.
Eddy and Duff advertisement Jan. 1985
SHEAR WATER is a big sister to
DOVEKIE in everything but age. She will float in
as little as 4" of water (so long as you can restrain
yourself from filling her cavernous stowage areas
with unnecessary junk). She will weigh only about
1200 pounds. Thus she fulfills the two most
sisterly attributes, ultra shoal draft and ultra
trailerability.
And bigger she is. She is 28' 3" long. She'll
sleep
four in two separate cabins: two aft under canvas,
as has proven so successful on DOVEKIE, and the
other two forward in the bow, under the perma-
nent deck. Her cockpit will accomodate her crew,
comfortably, on the windward side, on seats with
nice high backs. Her helmsman sits a few inches
higher so can see over their heads, and over the
bow without having to stand. She has room enough
for a separate, enclosed head. While still a back-
packer's boat, she has many of the attributes of a
small yacht.
And has bigger capabilities. Her cockpit is self-
bailing. Her ventilation system, and the openings in
her cabin and lockers are designed to be rendered
watertight quickly and easily. Thus she can rou-
tinely be taken to sea. Being unballasted, and of
Airex PVC foam composite construction through-
out, she won't let you down and sink in the hardest
of hard chances.
But, as with her little sister, it's in the shallows
that SHEARWATER really excells. Her 4" draft
easily doubles or triples the cruising areas available
to you... even on a bold coast.
If the idea of a seagoing, trailerable, peerlessly
shoal cruising boat appeals, send $2.95 ($3US if
foreign) for a brochure and price list describing
SHEARWATER.