[bolger] Re: How windy is windy?
i live on the norfolk va end that sounds about right
So what do the various (sailing) list members regard as their
normal sailing winds? and how do you react/cope?
Cope?
1 - Cuss a lot.
2 - Get out the Bolger Peero and laze in the bottom while burbling
along.
3 - run boat up on shore and walk around
Tho this past summer was summat windier than usual, I thought.
normal sailing winds? and how do you react/cope?
>>Tim, this is the Chesapeake. Summer? 5kt is good and 10 is a gale.
Cope?
1 - Cuss a lot.
2 - Get out the Bolger Peero and laze in the bottom while burbling
along.
3 - run boat up on shore and walk around
Tho this past summer was summat windier than usual, I thought.
Dundee averages windspeeds of 15 to 20 kts, although we get the occasional
flat calm which never seems to last more than an hour or so.
Last night we had gales gusting about 60 kts - a not uncommon occurrence.
Bill
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From: Rafael, Meyer <Meyer.Rafael@...>
To: 'bolger@egroups.com' <bolger@egroups.com>
Date: 07 February 2000 23:43
Subject: [bolger] Re: How windy is windy?
flat calm which never seems to last more than an hour or so.
Last night we had gales gusting about 60 kts - a not uncommon occurrence.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Rafael, Meyer <Meyer.Rafael@...>
To: 'bolger@egroups.com' <bolger@egroups.com>
Date: 07 February 2000 23:43
Subject: [bolger] Re: How windy is windy?
>Hi Tim;subject
>ALthough I built Windsprint four years ago I have not planned sailing until
>recently.
>Cowardice probably.
>I live close to Port Phillip Bay which is a large shallow lagoon that faces
>the body of water Australians call the "Southern Ocean". It's a large
>expanse of water that is uninterrupted by intervening land mass between
>Antartica to Australia.
>I understand that the overall shallowness of the "the Bay" contributes to
>the short choppy waves. I would guess that Lake Alexandrina would be
>to these forces.Western
>
>In view of my lack of real sailing experience I have taken wind speeds
>straight from the Weather forecasts (at
>http://www.bom.gov.au/weather/vic/forecasts.shtml). Port Phillip and
>Port Bays get their own reporting slot. The 10-25 knot range seems very
>typical and explains why Melbourne has a reputation for rapidly changing
>weather. My father-in-law who lives in San Francisco tells me that San
>Francisco also has similar weather patterns.
>
>Regards
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Tim Fatchen [mailto:tjfatchen@...]
>Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 10:02 AM
>To:bolger@egroups.com
>Subject: [bolger] Re: How windy is windy?
>
>
>
>
>bolger@...wrote:
>>
>> Dear Meyer,
>>
>> Where are you sailing that is so windy? 15+ knots is a lot of wind for
>> a small boat <snip>
>> Peter
>
>15 + knots is a mild summer's day in the Murray Lakes (or the
>quiet morning before the sea breeze gets in). We wouldn't sail
>at all in summer if 15 was the cutoff.
>
>Which raises again the question of how big should the sail be and
>how strong the winds are going to be! There seems to be a major
>two-way split between those of us who boat in blustery maritime
>(the piper o' Dundee, the inhabitants of the pan-Polar fringe)
>and the lake/river continental types (or a three-way split if one
>counts the US east coast's gentle summer zephyrs).
>
>Our summer winds start off as morning light airs with the sea
>breeze usually in and starting at 17-20 knots around lunchtime,
>increasing in the afternoon to around 25-26 knots by late
>afternoon. Generally, in our blustery part of the world, PCBs
>sail plans can be viewed as, er, generous. Our nymph has never
>sailed under more than a half-size sail; more would be too much
>-- local full-sailed Gypsies provide summer afternoon
>entertainments as their owner's try to keep them upright. Micro
>zaps around usually unreefed, but visiting MJs and the local AS29
>normally have at least one reef in, if not two where the winds
>are climbing above about 20-22 knots. (The LS as always doesn't
>count, as the idea there is to sail with only the daggerboard and
>rudder touching the water anyway...)
>
>So what do the various (sailing) list members regard as their
>normal sailing winds? and how do you react/cope?
>
>Tim & Flying Tadpole
>
>
>
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Hi Tim;
ALthough I built Windsprint four years ago I have not planned sailing until
recently.
Cowardice probably.
I live close to Port Phillip Bay which is a large shallow lagoon that faces
the body of water Australians call the "Southern Ocean". It's a large
expanse of water that is uninterrupted by intervening land mass between
Antartica to Australia.
I understand that the overall shallowness of the "the Bay" contributes to
the short choppy waves. I would guess that Lake Alexandrina would be subject
to these forces.
In view of my lack of real sailing experience I have taken wind speeds
straight from the Weather forecasts (at
http://www.bom.gov.au/weather/vic/forecasts.shtml). Port Phillip and Western
Port Bays get their own reporting slot. The 10-25 knot range seems very
typical and explains why Melbourne has a reputation for rapidly changing
weather. My father-in-law who lives in San Francisco tells me that San
Francisco also has similar weather patterns.
Regards
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Fatchen [mailto:tjfatchen@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 10:02 AM
To:bolger@egroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: How windy is windy?
bolger@...wrote:
quiet morning before the sea breeze gets in). We wouldn't sail
at all in summer if 15 was the cutoff.
Which raises again the question of how big should the sail be and
how strong the winds are going to be! There seems to be a major
two-way split between those of us who boat in blustery maritime
(the piper o' Dundee, the inhabitants of the pan-Polar fringe)
and the lake/river continental types (or a three-way split if one
counts the US east coast's gentle summer zephyrs).
Our summer winds start off as morning light airs with the sea
breeze usually in and starting at 17-20 knots around lunchtime,
increasing in the afternoon to around 25-26 knots by late
afternoon. Generally, in our blustery part of the world, PCBs
sail plans can be viewed as, er, generous. Our nymph has never
sailed under more than a half-size sail; more would be too much
-- local full-sailed Gypsies provide summer afternoon
entertainments as their owner's try to keep them upright. Micro
zaps around usually unreefed, but visiting MJs and the local AS29
normally have at least one reef in, if not two where the winds
are climbing above about 20-22 knots. (The LS as always doesn't
count, as the idea there is to sail with only the daggerboard and
rudder touching the water anyway...)
So what do the various (sailing) list members regard as their
normal sailing winds? and how do you react/cope?
Tim & Flying Tadpole
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ALthough I built Windsprint four years ago I have not planned sailing until
recently.
Cowardice probably.
I live close to Port Phillip Bay which is a large shallow lagoon that faces
the body of water Australians call the "Southern Ocean". It's a large
expanse of water that is uninterrupted by intervening land mass between
Antartica to Australia.
I understand that the overall shallowness of the "the Bay" contributes to
the short choppy waves. I would guess that Lake Alexandrina would be subject
to these forces.
In view of my lack of real sailing experience I have taken wind speeds
straight from the Weather forecasts (at
http://www.bom.gov.au/weather/vic/forecasts.shtml). Port Phillip and Western
Port Bays get their own reporting slot. The 10-25 knot range seems very
typical and explains why Melbourne has a reputation for rapidly changing
weather. My father-in-law who lives in San Francisco tells me that San
Francisco also has similar weather patterns.
Regards
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Fatchen [mailto:tjfatchen@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2000 10:02 AM
To:bolger@egroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: How windy is windy?
bolger@...wrote:
>15 + knots is a mild summer's day in the Murray Lakes (or the
> Dear Meyer,
>
> Where are you sailing that is so windy? 15+ knots is a lot of wind for
> a small boat <snip>
> Peter
quiet morning before the sea breeze gets in). We wouldn't sail
at all in summer if 15 was the cutoff.
Which raises again the question of how big should the sail be and
how strong the winds are going to be! There seems to be a major
two-way split between those of us who boat in blustery maritime
(the piper o' Dundee, the inhabitants of the pan-Polar fringe)
and the lake/river continental types (or a three-way split if one
counts the US east coast's gentle summer zephyrs).
Our summer winds start off as morning light airs with the sea
breeze usually in and starting at 17-20 knots around lunchtime,
increasing in the afternoon to around 25-26 knots by late
afternoon. Generally, in our blustery part of the world, PCBs
sail plans can be viewed as, er, generous. Our nymph has never
sailed under more than a half-size sail; more would be too much
-- local full-sailed Gypsies provide summer afternoon
entertainments as their owner's try to keep them upright. Micro
zaps around usually unreefed, but visiting MJs and the local AS29
normally have at least one reef in, if not two where the winds
are climbing above about 20-22 knots. (The LS as always doesn't
count, as the idea there is to sail with only the daggerboard and
rudder touching the water anyway...)
So what do the various (sailing) list members regard as their
normal sailing winds? and how do you react/cope?
Tim & Flying Tadpole
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bolger@...wrote:
quiet morning before the sea breeze gets in). We wouldn't sail
at all in summer if 15 was the cutoff.
Which raises again the question of how big should the sail be and
how strong the winds are going to be! There seems to be a major
two-way split between those of us who boat in blustery maritime
(the piper o' Dundee, the inhabitants of the pan-Polar fringe)
and the lake/river continental types (or a three-way split if one
counts the US east coast's gentle summer zephyrs).
Our summer winds start off as morning light airs with the sea
breeze usually in and starting at 17-20 knots around lunchtime,
increasing in the afternoon to around 25-26 knots by late
afternoon. Generally, in our blustery part of the world, PCBs
sail plans can be viewed as, er, generous. Our nymph has never
sailed under more than a half-size sail; more would be too much
-- local full-sailed Gypsies provide summer afternoon
entertainments as their owner's try to keep them upright. Micro
zaps around usually unreefed, but visiting MJs and the local AS29
normally have at least one reef in, if not two where the winds
are climbing above about 20-22 knots. (The LS as always doesn't
count, as the idea there is to sail with only the daggerboard and
rudder touching the water anyway...)
So what do the various (sailing) list members regard as their
normal sailing winds? and how do you react/cope?
Tim & Flying Tadpole
>15 + knots is a mild summer's day in the Murray Lakes (or the
> Dear Meyer,
>
> Where are you sailing that is so windy? 15+ knots is a lot of wind for
> a small boat <snip>
> Peter
quiet morning before the sea breeze gets in). We wouldn't sail
at all in summer if 15 was the cutoff.
Which raises again the question of how big should the sail be and
how strong the winds are going to be! There seems to be a major
two-way split between those of us who boat in blustery maritime
(the piper o' Dundee, the inhabitants of the pan-Polar fringe)
and the lake/river continental types (or a three-way split if one
counts the US east coast's gentle summer zephyrs).
Our summer winds start off as morning light airs with the sea
breeze usually in and starting at 17-20 knots around lunchtime,
increasing in the afternoon to around 25-26 knots by late
afternoon. Generally, in our blustery part of the world, PCBs
sail plans can be viewed as, er, generous. Our nymph has never
sailed under more than a half-size sail; more would be too much
-- local full-sailed Gypsies provide summer afternoon
entertainments as their owner's try to keep them upright. Micro
zaps around usually unreefed, but visiting MJs and the local AS29
normally have at least one reef in, if not two where the winds
are climbing above about 20-22 knots. (The LS as always doesn't
count, as the idea there is to sail with only the daggerboard and
rudder touching the water anyway...)
So what do the various (sailing) list members regard as their
normal sailing winds? and how do you react/cope?
Tim & Flying Tadpole