Re: [bolger] Dory for Rowing?
Modern "light" dories are really pretty nice rowing boats.
- They are easily and inexpensively constructed.
- The hull shape gives a narrow waterline with enough breadth to swing
relatively long oars, both good for rowing efficiency.
- The flared hull is dry and buoyant in waves.
- They can carry a surprisingly wide range of loads without hurting
performance.
- They are look nice, too.
A GLD doesn't have that much in common with a Banks type, being finer,
shallower, and more easily driven.
Don't get me wrong, though. A fine, round hulled boat can be even more
efficient, but it usually comes at the expense of some complexity. For the
lazy or impatient builder a dory isn't a bad way to go.
JB
- They are easily and inexpensively constructed.
- The hull shape gives a narrow waterline with enough breadth to swing
relatively long oars, both good for rowing efficiency.
- The flared hull is dry and buoyant in waves.
- They can carry a surprisingly wide range of loads without hurting
performance.
- They are look nice, too.
A GLD doesn't have that much in common with a Banks type, being finer,
shallower, and more easily driven.
Don't get me wrong, though. A fine, round hulled boat can be even more
efficient, but it usually comes at the expense of some complexity. For the
lazy or impatient builder a dory isn't a bad way to go.
JB
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Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 5:37 PM
Subject: [bolger] Dory for Rowing?
| I can't help wondering why people choose the dory as a recreational
| boat, unless they are planning to row with half a ton of fish, or
| perhaps row in surf.
| Can't see why a boat evolved to weigh low in the water, is the best
| type to bobble about near the top of it's bottom?
| Far better for the job surely, would be such as Welsfords Seagull?
|
| www.duckworksmagazine.com/store/plans/jw/seagull/index.htm
|
| Of course if pure nostalgia is your desire, a traditional dory is
| your thing. Just add a few ponging fish heads to complete the
| picture.
| DonB
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There is a point when people who use boats understand what a
particular design lends in performance. I am sure that the Seagull
might be a nice rowing boat but a hundred years of refining has given
us the modern dory. Simple to build and fast rowing but most of all
able to face a hostile surf line if the need arises. Yes there can be
swamping and turnovers in the surf but with an experienced oarsman
the chances are much better in a dory than most any other design.
History points to that and not only on the east coast but in western
rivers and western surf the dory has been the mainstay of the working
fisherman and sportsman.
Those of us who row the west coast face an inhospitable coastline of
cliffs, rocky beaches and harbors that are nothing more than tidal
bays of coastal rivers that have great sandbars which can only be
crossed by larger boats at high tide unless of coarse you have a dory
or a death wish. The choice of a dory then is obvious even if we miss
catching the half ton of fish like David Ryan does.
John
particular design lends in performance. I am sure that the Seagull
might be a nice rowing boat but a hundred years of refining has given
us the modern dory. Simple to build and fast rowing but most of all
able to face a hostile surf line if the need arises. Yes there can be
swamping and turnovers in the surf but with an experienced oarsman
the chances are much better in a dory than most any other design.
History points to that and not only on the east coast but in western
rivers and western surf the dory has been the mainstay of the working
fisherman and sportsman.
Those of us who row the west coast face an inhospitable coastline of
cliffs, rocky beaches and harbors that are nothing more than tidal
bays of coastal rivers that have great sandbars which can only be
crossed by larger boats at high tide unless of coarse you have a dory
or a death wish. The choice of a dory then is obvious even if we miss
catching the half ton of fish like David Ryan does.
John
>recreational
> --- In bolger@y..., "dbaldnz" <oink@p...> wrote:
> > I can't help wondering why people choose the dory as a
> > boat, unless they are planning to row with half a ton of fish, orbest
> > perhaps row in surf.
> > Can't see why a boat evolved to weigh low in the water, is the
> > type to bobble about near the top of it's bottom?
> > Far better for the job surely, would be such as Welsfords Seagull?
> >
> > www.duckworksmagazine.com/store/plans/jw/seagull/index.htm
> >
> > Of course if pure nostalgia is your desire, a traditional dory is
> > your thing. Just add a few ponging fish heads to complete the
> > picture.
> > DonB
The two dories we've been discussing were designed for lighter loads.
You have a point about something like a Banks dory. Some of us do live
near the ocean where the ability to handle some waves might be handy.
Certainly this ability might come in handy if we explore the outside
of Gloucester. Also, there are some very large wakes out there.
BTW, I see a lot of dory heritage in that "Seagull". It seems to be
suspended between a sharpie and a dory, so maybe along with the
fisheads (what the heck is that verb?) you could have some aging
oyster slime or something.
You have a point about something like a Banks dory. Some of us do live
near the ocean where the ability to handle some waves might be handy.
Certainly this ability might come in handy if we explore the outside
of Gloucester. Also, there are some very large wakes out there.
BTW, I see a lot of dory heritage in that "Seagull". It seems to be
suspended between a sharpie and a dory, so maybe along with the
fisheads (what the heck is that verb?) you could have some aging
oyster slime or something.
--- In bolger@y..., "dbaldnz" <oink@p...> wrote:
> I can't help wondering why people choose the dory as a recreational
> boat, unless they are planning to row with half a ton of fish, or
> perhaps row in surf.
> Can't see why a boat evolved to weigh low in the water, is the best
> type to bobble about near the top of it's bottom?
> Far better for the job surely, would be such as Welsfords Seagull?
>
> www.duckworksmagazine.com/store/plans/jw/seagull/index.htm
>
> Of course if pure nostalgia is your desire, a traditional dory is
> your thing. Just add a few ponging fish heads to complete the
> picture.
> DonB
I can't help wondering why people choose the dory as a recreational
boat, unless they are planning to row with half a ton of fish, or
perhaps row in surf.
Can't see why a boat evolved to weigh low in the water, is the best
type to bobble about near the top of it's bottom?
Far better for the job surely, would be such as Welsfords Seagull?
www.duckworksmagazine.com/store/plans/jw/seagull/index.htm
Of course if pure nostalgia is your desire, a traditional dory is
your thing. Just add a few ponging fish heads to complete the
picture.
DonB
boat, unless they are planning to row with half a ton of fish, or
perhaps row in surf.
Can't see why a boat evolved to weigh low in the water, is the best
type to bobble about near the top of it's bottom?
Far better for the job surely, would be such as Welsfords Seagull?
www.duckworksmagazine.com/store/plans/jw/seagull/index.htm
Of course if pure nostalgia is your desire, a traditional dory is
your thing. Just add a few ponging fish heads to complete the
picture.
DonB