Re: [bolger] Sitka Explorer was Re: Minnesota
> The status of Sitka Explorer came up, I think, more than a year ago.That is for sure! For instance, on August 18, 2004 Leo Hill wrote
> I believe the design has been commisioned but the work has not been
> completed. A search using Sitka as the search term will bring up an
> hour of reading.
that he had recently spoken with SA and was told that Sitka Explorer
was hoped to be completed by Christmas 2004.
The status of Sitka Explorer came up, I think, more than a year ago.
I believe the design has been commisioned but the work has not been
completed. A search using Sitka as the search term will bring up an
hour of reading.
PB&F was backed up for a period of time with a literal "government
job" which delayed several commissioned designs. I don't know that
completed work of these designs has begun to flow yet, nor if it will.
Don
I believe the design has been commisioned but the work has not been
completed. A search using Sitka as the search term will bring up an
hour of reading.
PB&F was backed up for a period of time with a literal "government
job" which delayed several commissioned designs. I don't know that
completed work of these designs has begun to flow yet, nor if it will.
Don
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Stuart Crawford <stuartcnz@...> wrote:
>
> > Is Sitka Explorer a work in progress? Or is it waiting for someone
new to
> > re-commission it?
> >
> Is Sitka Explorer a work in progress? Or is it waiting for someone new to[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> re-commission it?
>
>> > The Topaz hull shape is also present in the 40' Sitka Explorer
>> >which Bolger considers to be up for the intracoastal Alaskan passage.
>> >Wonder when that commission will be completed?. That puts me back to
>> >thinking that the later Topaz hull may be a better choice.
>
> Stuart.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "donschultz8275" <donschultz@...> wrote:
Bolger thinks 140 hp is too much for the design. He recommends two
50's or a single 75. There is also the comment in the plans that a
singe 50 hp "would not be dangerously underpowered".
Ralph
> Did you discuss with PBF how much horsepower you intended to install?Don,
> Of course Bolger would still be thinking in terms of 140 hp, since
> that is the original design spec. The shoe and less than 90 hp could
> well work OK.
>
Bolger thinks 140 hp is too much for the design. He recommends two
50's or a single 75. There is also the comment in the plans that a
singe 50 hp "would not be dangerously underpowered".
Ralph
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "uncleralph123" <UncleRalph@...> wrote:
there and is now gone.
Did you discuss with PBF how much horsepower you intended to install?
Of course Bolger would still be thinking in terms of 140 hp, since
that is the original design spec. The shoe and less than 90 hp could
well work OK. A 22' Retriever does well with 90 hp.
No one has built one to plans, so who can really know what is best?
I'm still not up for the board.
I think the attraction of Minne' is the styling of the cabin, and the
very efficient layout, including the rear mounted dedicated toilet
space. There is a lot of boat in 33'.
The very flat bottom is not a feature to me. Although I am near the
Illinois River, which provides access to the Mississippi and the
Misouri, I also have access to the Great Lakes from the same launching
point. The Topaz hull shape is also present in the 40' Sitka Explorer
which Bolger considers to be up for the intracoastal Alaskan passage.
Wonder when that commission will be completed?. That puts me back to
thinking that the later Topaz hull may be a better choice.
Ooooo! What about the ~30' Samuel Clyde hull, which is a really big
Diablo?
> Don,Ralph, thanks for that input. Neat that you can tell the shoe was
>
> Interestingly, this is what Bolger thought when he wrote the article,
> but not now. When I purchased the plans I wrote him a letter asking
> about this very statement. His answer was that he would build it as
> originally designed with the centerboard and not the thick shoe. In
> fact if you look closely at the plans you can see where the shoe was
> added and then erased.
>
> Ralph
>
there and is now gone.
Did you discuss with PBF how much horsepower you intended to install?
Of course Bolger would still be thinking in terms of 140 hp, since
that is the original design spec. The shoe and less than 90 hp could
well work OK. A 22' Retriever does well with 90 hp.
No one has built one to plans, so who can really know what is best?
I'm still not up for the board.
I think the attraction of Minne' is the styling of the cabin, and the
very efficient layout, including the rear mounted dedicated toilet
space. There is a lot of boat in 33'.
The very flat bottom is not a feature to me. Although I am near the
Illinois River, which provides access to the Mississippi and the
Misouri, I also have access to the Great Lakes from the same launching
point. The Topaz hull shape is also present in the 40' Sitka Explorer
which Bolger considers to be up for the intracoastal Alaskan passage.
Wonder when that commission will be completed?. That puts me back to
thinking that the later Topaz hull may be a better choice.
Ooooo! What about the ~30' Samuel Clyde hull, which is a really big
Diablo?
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "donschultz8275" <donschultz@...> wrote:
Interestingly, this is what Bolger thought when he wrote the article,
but not now. When I purchased the plans I wrote him a letter asking
about this very statement. His answer was that he would build it as
originally designed with the centerboard and not the thick shoe. In
fact if you look closely at the plans you can see where the shoe was
added and then erased.
Ralph
>Don,
> Also, Bolger says in the essay that TODAY, he would put a thick shoe
> on Minnesota, "like the Clam Skiffs". I take that to mean 2-3
> thicknesses of 1/2" plywood. I would take him literally and use Clam
> Skiff sketches to work out the proportions. I would not build the
> center board. To much risk of maintenance problems. I'd rather add
> it externally if it proved absolutely necessary.
>
Interestingly, this is what Bolger thought when he wrote the article,
but not now. When I purchased the plans I wrote him a letter asking
about this very statement. His answer was that he would build it as
originally designed with the centerboard and not the thick shoe. In
fact if you look closely at the plans you can see where the shoe was
added and then erased.
Ralph
Further, if you keep the horsepower low, the Tennesee or Dakota hull
could accomodate at least a variation of Minnesota's cabin. In Tn in
particular, keeping the weight down will be critical to keeping Tn's
good performance on low horsepower.
Bolger makes the point in his essay that one should not mess w' the
Minnesota design because the built in furniture is part of the
stiffness of the boat.
Wyoming has similar design features in the bottom. The fore/aft
structures are called intercoastals by one Wyoming builder.
Don Schultz
could accomodate at least a variation of Minnesota's cabin. In Tn in
particular, keeping the weight down will be critical to keeping Tn's
good performance on low horsepower.
Bolger makes the point in his essay that one should not mess w' the
Minnesota design because the built in furniture is part of the
stiffness of the boat.
Wyoming has similar design features in the bottom. The fore/aft
structures are called intercoastals by one Wyoming builder.
Don Schultz
On Feb 1, 2008 3:42 PM, donschultz8275 <donschultz@...> wrote:
the case of Minnesota, I think MAIB.
Free!Ship has a learning curve, but once you figure it out is it
actually a quick and easy.
> Fun to see these views. I am curious as to how you did it. Where didI have a collection of Bolger articles, mostly from MAIB and SBJ. In
> the dimensional info come from to feed Freeship the info to do the
> plots? Do you have plans for all the boats you've entered into
> Freeship this way?
the case of Minnesota, I think MAIB.
Free!Ship has a learning curve, but once you figure it out is it
actually a quick and easy.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Don Tyson <tysond99@...> wrote:
with 1 of the 2 70hp motors the man who commissioned the design said
he wanted to use.
I've got a 2 stroke Force 115hp, I think would make a Minnesota a
very exciting ride! I'd hang a 10-15hp 4 stroke alongside the 115hp
Force for more sane getting around.
The result of the high power request is that Minnesota will handle a
lot of horsepower and high speeds, unlike the lightweight Tennesee,
designed for 1/10th the hp. Dakota is also similar in size with a
rockered hull like Tn. but a bit heavier heavier scantlings.
Also, Bolger says in the essay that TODAY, he would put a thick shoe
on Minnesota, "like the Clam Skiffs". I take that to mean 2-3
thicknesses of 1/2" plywood. I would take him literally and use Clam
Skiff sketches to work out the proportions. I would not build the
center board. To much risk of maintenance problems. I'd rather add
it externally if it proved absolutely necessary.
Don
>Neither did Bolger per the essay. He thought the boat would do well
> ........I like the size but don't like the Idea of twin engines....
with 1 of the 2 70hp motors the man who commissioned the design said
he wanted to use.
I've got a 2 stroke Force 115hp, I think would make a Minnesota a
very exciting ride! I'd hang a 10-15hp 4 stroke alongside the 115hp
Force for more sane getting around.
The result of the high power request is that Minnesota will handle a
lot of horsepower and high speeds, unlike the lightweight Tennesee,
designed for 1/10th the hp. Dakota is also similar in size with a
rockered hull like Tn. but a bit heavier heavier scantlings.
Also, Bolger says in the essay that TODAY, he would put a thick shoe
on Minnesota, "like the Clam Skiffs". I take that to mean 2-3
thicknesses of 1/2" plywood. I would take him literally and use Clam
Skiff sketches to work out the proportions. I would not build the
center board. To much risk of maintenance problems. I'd rather add
it externally if it proved absolutely necessary.
Don
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hallman" <bruce@...> wrote:
Thank you for your efforts in all our behalf.
Fun to see these views. I am curious as to how you did it. Where did
the dimensional info come from to feed Freeship the info to do the
plots? Do you have plans for all the boats you've entered into
Freeship this way?
Thanks
Don
> Mostly toBruce,
> satisfy my own curiosity, I modeled her in Free!ship to get a better
> feel for shape and proportions . Isometrics here:
>
>http://flickr.com/photos/hallman/2230868689/
>
Thank you for your efforts in all our behalf.
Fun to see these views. I am curious as to how you did it. Where did
the dimensional info come from to feed Freeship the info to do the
plots? Do you have plans for all the boats you've entered into
Freeship this way?
Thanks
Don
Brian,
What you've seen in this thread is all there is.
IMO it would be neat to put the Minne' cabin on a Topaz hull with a
widened stern to accomodate the loo.
Don Schultz
What you've seen in this thread is all there is.
IMO it would be neat to put the Minne' cabin on a Topaz hull with a
widened stern to accomodate the loo.
Don Schultz
Tennessee is in Bolger's "Different Boats". There's a half-page
reproduction of what I guess is the complete plans on a single sheet.
All the dimensions are there and with a magnifying glass you'd get
enough detail to build it instant-boat style.
He says it would make 10kts with 10hp, and "This boat was designed for
a novice builder and for us on inland waters -- the TVA lakes -- so
the ultimate simplicity of asssembly was desirable and any weakness in
rough water not prohibitive."
Howard
reproduction of what I guess is the complete plans on a single sheet.
All the dimensions are there and with a magnifying glass you'd get
enough detail to build it instant-boat style.
He says it would make 10kts with 10hp, and "This boat was designed for
a novice builder and for us on inland waters -- the TVA lakes -- so
the ultimate simplicity of asssembly was desirable and any weakness in
rough water not prohibitive."
Howard
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hallman" <bruce@...> wrote:
>
> I have seen a bunch of photos of Tennessee, but I cannot recall where
> the line drawings have ever been published. (Or, for that matter,
> where is there a Bolger writeup of Tennessee?)
Oops, answering my own question, the CSD catalog mentions that
Tennessee has a 4 inch draft, flat bottomed.
Tennessee has a 4 inch draft, flat bottomed.
On Jan 31, 2008 8:40 AM, Chester Young <chester@...> wrote:
I would describe Minnesota as having a very flat bottom, like the
similarly sized Topaz, the rocker is about 6 inches.
the line drawings have ever been published. (Or, for that matter,
where is there a Bolger writeup of Tennessee?) The only 'write up'
which I recall is the one from the old Common Sense Designs catalogue,
and that illustration has just the 'exterior elevation' view and plan
view and does not show the boat hull below the waterline. Still, my
guess is that Tennessee also has very little rocker, no more than a
foot. Minnesota and Tennessee are very similar, with Tennessee being
about a 90% shrink of Minnesota but probably 2X faster to build due to
vastly simpler interior fit out work.
>Yeah, Minnesota is the one with the stand alone head.
> Bruce:
>
> Is the small cabin placed aft the head?
I would describe Minnesota as having a very flat bottom, like the
similarly sized Topaz, the rocker is about 6 inches.
> Have you considered rendering a Tennessee?I have seen a bunch of photos of Tennessee, but I cannot recall where
the line drawings have ever been published. (Or, for that matter,
where is there a Bolger writeup of Tennessee?) The only 'write up'
which I recall is the one from the old Common Sense Designs catalogue,
and that illustration has just the 'exterior elevation' view and plan
view and does not show the boat hull below the waterline. Still, my
guess is that Tennessee also has very little rocker, no more than a
foot. Minnesota and Tennessee are very similar, with Tennessee being
about a 90% shrink of Minnesota but probably 2X faster to build due to
vastly simpler interior fit out work.
Caloosarat,
I can answer some of your questions because I have the plans. Yes,
the aft cabin is the head. I suspect Bruce did not enter the panel
thicknesses, which would be necessary to calculate the center of
gravity. I would guess wind is challenge in all the state series
boats. A shallow draft, flat bottomed boat with a lot of
superstructure is going to be pushed around by the wind. The
Minnesota has a pretty good size centerboard, which will help with the
wind; although, I believe, Bolger included the centerbaord primarilly
to stop the boat for chine tripping.
Ralph
I can answer some of your questions because I have the plans. Yes,
the aft cabin is the head. I suspect Bruce did not enter the panel
thicknesses, which would be necessary to calculate the center of
gravity. I would guess wind is challenge in all the state series
boats. A shallow draft, flat bottomed boat with a lot of
superstructure is going to be pushed around by the wind. The
Minnesota has a pretty good size centerboard, which will help with the
wind; although, I believe, Bolger included the centerbaord primarilly
to stop the boat for chine tripping.
Ralph
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Chester Young" <chester@...> wrote:
>
> Bruce:
>
>
>
> Is the small cabin placed aft the head? I recall Bob Slimak
mentioning one
> of the State designs with a stand alone head. This is the first
rendering
> of any sort that I have seen of the Minnesota. Have you considered
> rendering a Tennessee? It has considerable more rocker than any of the
> subsequent State line vessels. Also, how does all the cabin structure
> affect the center of gravity of in the model and in turn how does is
that
> affected by wind? I ask these questions since you are obviously the
master
> of freeship.
>
>
>
> Respectfully
>
>
>
> Caloosarat
>
>
>
Bruce:
Is the small cabin placed aft the head? I recall Bob Slimak mentioning one
of the State designs with a stand alone head. This is the first rendering
of any sort that I have seen of the Minnesota. Have you considered
rendering a Tennessee? It has considerable more rocker than any of the
subsequent State line vessels. Also, how does all the cabin structure
affect the center of gravity of in the model and in turn how does is that
affected by wind? I ask these questions since you are obviously the master
of freeship.
Respectfully
Caloosarat
_____
Mostly to
satisfy my own curiosity, I modeled her in Free!ship to get a better
feel for shape and proportions . Isometrics here:
http://flickr. <http://flickr.com/photos/hallman/2230868689/>
com/photos/hallman/2230868689/
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Is the small cabin placed aft the head? I recall Bob Slimak mentioning one
of the State designs with a stand alone head. This is the first rendering
of any sort that I have seen of the Minnesota. Have you considered
rendering a Tennessee? It has considerable more rocker than any of the
subsequent State line vessels. Also, how does all the cabin structure
affect the center of gravity of in the model and in turn how does is that
affected by wind? I ask these questions since you are obviously the master
of freeship.
Respectfully
Caloosarat
_____
Mostly to
satisfy my own curiosity, I modeled her in Free!ship to get a better
feel for shape and proportions . Isometrics here:
http://flickr. <http://flickr.com/photos/hallman/2230868689/>
com/photos/hallman/2230868689/
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Bruce,
I have plans for Minnesota and hope to build it one day. Would it be
possible to get your Freeship model? I have played around with
Freeship, but haven't created a Minnesota model.
Ralph
I have plans for Minnesota and hope to build it one day. Would it be
possible to get your Freeship model? I have played around with
Freeship, but haven't created a Minnesota model.
Ralph
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hallman" <bruce@...> wrote:
>
> With all this recent discussion of Idaho and Tennessee, I was reminded
> of the similar, but less well known Minnesota 33ft x 6'6". Mostly to
> satisfy my own curiosity, I modeled her in Free!ship to get a better
> feel for shape and proportions . Isometrics here:
>
>http://flickr.com/photos/hallman/2230868689/
>
With all this recent discussion of Idaho and Tennessee, I was reminded
of the similar, but less well known Minnesota 33ft x 6'6". Mostly to
satisfy my own curiosity, I modeled her in Free!ship to get a better
feel for shape and proportions . Isometrics here:
http://flickr.com/photos/hallman/2230868689/
of the similar, but less well known Minnesota 33ft x 6'6". Mostly to
satisfy my own curiosity, I modeled her in Free!ship to get a better
feel for shape and proportions . Isometrics here:
http://flickr.com/photos/hallman/2230868689/
Bruce Hector <bruce_hector@...> wrote:
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "brianqwerty1" <brianqwerty1@y...>
wrote ":Minnesota ... Where can these plans be purchased?"
Minnesota is one of my favorites too. Plans from
Phil Bolger & Friends
66 Atlantic St.
Gloucester, MA 01930-1627, USA
or
P. O. box 1209
Gloucester, MA 01930, USA
(the latter being up to six hours faster...)
fax (978) 282-1349
If you fax him for info and request the cartoon and description you
usually get a reply the same day.
Unfortunately, Phil does not sell pans online or publish his eMail.
All plans are shipped hard copy, rolled in a tube.
When you build it, take LOTS of pics and post them for us, please!
Bruce Hector
Hello Bruce
Thank you very much
I will send pictures
Regards Brian
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "brianqwerty1" <brianqwerty1@y...>
wrote ":Minnesota ... Where can these plans be purchased?"
Minnesota is one of my favorites too. Plans from
Phil Bolger & Friends
66 Atlantic St.
Gloucester, MA 01930-1627, USA
or
P. O. box 1209
Gloucester, MA 01930, USA
(the latter being up to six hours faster...)
fax (978) 282-1349
If you fax him for info and request the cartoon and description you
usually get a reply the same day.
Unfortunately, Phil does not sell pans online or publish his eMail.
All plans are shipped hard copy, rolled in a tube.
When you build it, take LOTS of pics and post them for us, please!
Bruce Hector
Hello Bruce
Thank you very much
I will send pictures
Regards Brian
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "brianqwerty1" <brianqwerty1@y...>
wrote ":Minnesota ... Where can these plans be purchased?"
Minnesota is one of my favorites too. Plans from
Phil Bolger & Friends
66 Atlantic St.
Gloucester, MA 01930-1627, USA
or
P. O. box 1209
Gloucester, MA 01930, USA
(the latter being up to six hours faster...)
fax (978) 282-1349
If you fax him for info and request the cartoon and description you
usually get a reply the same day.
Unfortunately, Phil does not sell pans online or publish his eMail.
All plans are shipped hard copy, rolled in a tube.
When you build it, take LOTS of pics and post them for us, please!
Bruce Hector
wrote ":Minnesota ... Where can these plans be purchased?"
Minnesota is one of my favorites too. Plans from
Phil Bolger & Friends
66 Atlantic St.
Gloucester, MA 01930-1627, USA
or
P. O. box 1209
Gloucester, MA 01930, USA
(the latter being up to six hours faster...)
fax (978) 282-1349
If you fax him for info and request the cartoon and description you
usually get a reply the same day.
Unfortunately, Phil does not sell pans online or publish his eMail.
All plans are shipped hard copy, rolled in a tube.
When you build it, take LOTS of pics and post them for us, please!
Bruce Hector
I am looking to build a flat bottom sharpie
The tennesee, Idaho, Minnesota and Wyoming all appeal
I like the look of this power sharpie Minnesota the best because of
its size
I am on the Murray River in Australia
I think the wyoming is a bit big
Is there any more info on the Minnesota other than the scans on this
site????????????
They are a bit fussy even when I expand them
This boat seems close to the boat I want to Build
Where can these plans be purchased
Regards Brian
The tennesee, Idaho, Minnesota and Wyoming all appeal
I like the look of this power sharpie Minnesota the best because of
its size
I am on the Murray River in Australia
I think the wyoming is a bit big
Is there any more info on the Minnesota other than the scans on this
site????????????
They are a bit fussy even when I expand them
This boat seems close to the boat I want to Build
Where can these plans be purchased
Regards Brian
Me too, my virus software went nuts!
Jeff
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: Jon Hylands
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [bolger] OT But Amazing
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 10:15:28 -0500, "Frank Bales" <fbales@...>
wrote:
>http://koti.mbnet.fi/soldier/towboat.htm
Be very careful!!!
I went to this link, which was okay, but when I clicked on the "read the
whole story" link, Norton detected (and was unable to repair) a virus in a
java file downloaded from this site.
Later,
Jon
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Just tried it again, and no virus detected. I too use NAV and keep it
updated. It's possible it attached itself from outside that site.
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Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 11:37 AM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [bolger] OT But Amazing
updated. It's possible it attached itself from outside that site.
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 11:37 AM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [bolger] OT But Amazing
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 11:29:25 -0500, Jon Hylands <jon@...> wrote:
> >http://koti.mbnet.fi/soldier/towboat.htm
>
> Be very careful!!!
>
> I went to this link, which was okay, but when I clicked on the "read the
> whole story" link, Norton detected (and was unable to repair) a virus in a
> java file downloaded from this site.
As an addendum, I looked up the actual virus -- it is the Trojan
.ByteVerify virus, which is described here:
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/trojan.byteverify.ht
ml
Later,
Jon
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Funny, I clicked on that same link with no virus warning, or virus.
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Hylands [mailto:jon@...]
Be very careful!!!
I went to this link, which was okay, but when I clicked on the "read the
whole story" link, Norton detected (and was unable to repair) a virus in a
java file downloaded from this site.
Later,
Jon
Frank
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From: Jon Hylands [mailto:jon@...]
Be very careful!!!
I went to this link, which was okay, but when I clicked on the "read the
whole story" link, Norton detected (and was unable to repair) a virus in a
java file downloaded from this site.
Later,
Jon
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 11:29:25 -0500, Jon Hylands <jon@...> wrote:
.ByteVerify virus, which is described here:
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/trojan.byteverify.html
Later,
Jon
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Jon HylandsJon@...http://www.huv.com/jon
Project: Micro Seeker (Micro Autonomous Underwater Vehicle)
http://www.huv.com
> >http://koti.mbnet.fi/soldier/towboat.htmAs an addendum, I looked up the actual virus -- it is the Trojan
>
> Be very careful!!!
>
> I went to this link, which was okay, but when I clicked on the "read the
> whole story" link, Norton detected (and was unable to repair) a virus in a
> java file downloaded from this site.
.ByteVerify virus, which is described here:
http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/trojan.byteverify.html
Later,
Jon
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Jon HylandsJon@...http://www.huv.com/jon
Project: Micro Seeker (Micro Autonomous Underwater Vehicle)
http://www.huv.com
On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 10:15:28 -0500, "Frank Bales" <fbales@...>
wrote:
I went to this link, which was okay, but when I clicked on the "read the
whole story" link, Norton detected (and was unable to repair) a virus in a
java file downloaded from this site.
Later,
Jon
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Jon HylandsJon@...http://www.huv.com/jon
Project: Micro Seeker (Micro Autonomous Underwater Vehicle)
http://www.huv.com
wrote:
>http://koti.mbnet.fi/soldier/towboat.htmBe very careful!!!
I went to this link, which was okay, but when I clicked on the "read the
whole story" link, Norton detected (and was unable to repair) a virus in a
java file downloaded from this site.
Later,
Jon
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Jon HylandsJon@...http://www.huv.com/jon
Project: Micro Seeker (Micro Autonomous Underwater Vehicle)
http://www.huv.com
I drive over the "new" bridge where this occured at least 10-15 times a year
while calling on the paper mill just upstream. The water level in the
Tombigbee fluctuates quite a bit, but I've never seen it as high as it was
in the photo sequence. Everytime I drive over that spot, I'm reminded of
that amazing phot sequence. It also reminds the days when I was teaching
whitewater kayaking, admonishing beginners pinned on a rock to "lean
downstream"! I guess you cant do that on a towboat, though...
while calling on the paper mill just upstream. The water level in the
Tombigbee fluctuates quite a bit, but I've never seen it as high as it was
in the photo sequence. Everytime I drive over that spot, I'm reminded of
that amazing phot sequence. It also reminds the days when I was teaching
whitewater kayaking, admonishing beginners pinned on a rock to "lean
downstream"! I guess you cant do that on a towboat, though...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Bales" <fbales@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 10:15 AM
Subject: [bolger] OT But Amazing
>
>http://koti.mbnet.fi/soldier/towboat.htm
>
Bruce, I like the size but don't like the Idea of twin engines. I like Jeff Bluncs Idea of using a sterndrive. I'll wait to se how it works on his Wyo.
I would like to see it with the butt extension that Sneakeasy And Illinois has...what do you call them?
Well, anyway, If i did build one of these I think I'd not tell you for fear that while you were here visiting you'd be tempted to start a regional or satelite office of one of your rowing clubs.
Do you think that the settee fronts and cabinets contribute greatly to the integrity of the boat or could they be eliminated? I guess the main thing I don't like about the sharpies in general is the center hallway effect of how they are arranged inside.
Don Tyson
Bruce Hector <bruce_hector@...> wrote:
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Don Tyson wrote: "Are
you aware of anyone building Minnesota?"
Nope! I don't know a any even being started, anyone else?
But she's one of my favorites. Why don't you start one? Then I can
come and see it.
Bruce Hector
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I would like to see it with the butt extension that Sneakeasy And Illinois has...what do you call them?
Well, anyway, If i did build one of these I think I'd not tell you for fear that while you were here visiting you'd be tempted to start a regional or satelite office of one of your rowing clubs.
Do you think that the settee fronts and cabinets contribute greatly to the integrity of the boat or could they be eliminated? I guess the main thing I don't like about the sharpies in general is the center hallway effect of how they are arranged inside.
Don Tyson
Bruce Hector <bruce_hector@...> wrote:
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Don Tyson wrote: "Are
you aware of anyone building Minnesota?"
Nope! I don't know a any even being started, anyone else?
But she's one of my favorites. Why don't you start one? Then I can
come and see it.
Bruce Hector
Bolger rules!!!
- no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
- stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
- Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
- Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
- Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
- Open discussion:bolger_coffee_lounge-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
Yahoo! Groups Links
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Don Tyson <tysond99@y...> wrote: "Are
you aware of anyone building Minnesota?"
Nope! I don't know a any even being started, anyone else?
But she's one of my favorites. Why don't you start one? Then I can
come and see it.
Bruce Hector
you aware of anyone building Minnesota?"
Nope! I don't know a any even being started, anyone else?
But she's one of my favorites. Why don't you start one? Then I can
come and see it.
Bruce Hector
Thanks Bruce, Yes your link did work. Are you aware of anyone building Minnesota?
Don
Bruce Hector <bruce_hector@...> wrote:
Don
Bruce Hector <bruce_hector@...> wrote:
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "tysond99" wrote:
> I would be interested in more info regarding Minnesota and
> especially a floorplan drawing.
>
> Don Tyson
Here you go Don,
They're in the files section of Bolger 2, in a file folder named
Bolger Scans.
I hope the link works.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/Bolger%20scans/
Bruce Hector
Bolger rules!!!
- no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
- stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
- Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
- Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
- Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
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--- Bruce Hector wrote:
I had previously missed, a
Navigator Cabin on a Long
Micro. Nels????
http://tinyurl.com/39pnx
> They're in the files sectionAlso in this folder, a picture
> of Bolger 2, in a file
> folder named
> Bolger Scans.
I had previously missed, a
Navigator Cabin on a Long
Micro. Nels????
http://tinyurl.com/39pnx
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "tysond99" <tysond99@y...> wrote:
They're in the files section of Bolger 2, in a file folder named
Bolger Scans.
I hope the link works.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/Bolger%20scans/
Bruce Hector
> I would be interested in more info regarding Minnesota andHere you go Don,
> especially a floorplan drawing.
>
> Don Tyson
They're in the files section of Bolger 2, in a file folder named
Bolger Scans.
I hope the link works.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/Bolger%20scans/
Bruce Hector
I would be interested in more info regarding Minnesota and
especially a floorplan drawing.
Don Tyson
especially a floorplan drawing.
Don Tyson
Hey Bruce,
Here is something on the Minnesota. <A HREF="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/Bolger%20scans/">Bolger's Minnesota</A> .
Its not great but I haven't found anything else. Tom on Sandpiper
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Here is something on the Minnesota. <A HREF="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/Bolger%20scans/">Bolger's Minnesota</A> .
Its not great but I haven't found anything else. Tom on Sandpiper
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If time and space ever conjoin so we can meet...Guaranteed you'll get
a ride!!!
Steve Bosquette
a ride!!!
Steve Bosquette
--- In bolger@y..., "Bruce Hector" <bruce_hector@h...> wrote:
> Yeah, Minnie is one of my favorites, if you build one you'll not
> cheat me out of a ride, for sure!
Yeah, Minnie is one of my favorites, if you build one you'll not
cheat me out of a ride, for sure!
cheat me out of a ride, for sure!