Re: [bolger] Re: Chebacco mizzen sizing
PCB&F wrote back I should fly a riding sail from mizzen mast to cabin top.
Be a hassle, me thinks. If I do any serious cruising I think I'll increase
the size of the mizzen, and run full battens. That way, it wouldn't flap
around as much in higher winds...
Be a hassle, me thinks. If I do any serious cruising I think I'll increase
the size of the mizzen, and run full battens. That way, it wouldn't flap
around as much in higher winds...
----- Original Message -----
From: "prthober" <prthober@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 9:50 AM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Chebacco mizzen sizing
> I have the same problem with my Chebacco which also has a larger than
> standard cabin and four inch higher sheer - windage is the culprit, I
> think. Solution? - I don't have one yet, especially for us single-
> handed sailors. The sea anchor sounds like it would work, but would
> like a simpler cure.
>
> Paul
>
> --- In bolger@y..., "Richard Spelling" <richard@c...> wrote:
> > Was out yesterday in about force four, and heaved-to to pull in a
> reef.
> > (much fun, BTW! had to close the hatches to keep dry! got to sit
> dry in the
> > dodger and watch the water splash the windows! hehe)
> >
> > Noticed that the best the mizzen would do when heaved to is hold
> the nose
> > about 15 degrees up from beam to the wind.
> >
> > I've noticed this before in lighter winds, but figured it would
> work better
> > with the wind kicking up.
> >
> > I've written PCB&F about this, but was wondering what the
> collective here
> > thought?
> >
> > This is in the pilothouse version of the Chebacco, centerboard all
> the way
> > down, rudder amidships, mizzen amidships, main let free.
> >
> > At first I thought it was the windage from the pilot house, but
> it's just
> > about centered over the centerboard, not sure how that would keep
> it from
> > pointing into the wind.
> >
> > Have noticed the same thing on a 19ft Micro with the standard rig,
> it would
> > heave two beam to wind instead of nose to wind.
> >
> > Any thoughts, anyone, anyone?
>
>
>
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I have the same problem with my Chebacco which also has a larger than
standard cabin and four inch higher sheer - windage is the culprit, I
think. Solution? - I don't have one yet, especially for us single-
handed sailors. The sea anchor sounds like it would work, but would
like a simpler cure.
Paul
standard cabin and four inch higher sheer - windage is the culprit, I
think. Solution? - I don't have one yet, especially for us single-
handed sailors. The sea anchor sounds like it would work, but would
like a simpler cure.
Paul
--- In bolger@y..., "Richard Spelling" <richard@c...> wrote:
> Was out yesterday in about force four, and heaved-to to pull in a
reef.
> (much fun, BTW! had to close the hatches to keep dry! got to sit
dry in the
> dodger and watch the water splash the windows! hehe)
>
> Noticed that the best the mizzen would do when heaved to is hold
the nose
> about 15 degrees up from beam to the wind.
>
> I've noticed this before in lighter winds, but figured it would
work better
> with the wind kicking up.
>
> I've written PCB&F about this, but was wondering what the
collective here
> thought?
>
> This is in the pilothouse version of the Chebacco, centerboard all
the way
> down, rudder amidships, mizzen amidships, main let free.
>
> At first I thought it was the windage from the pilot house, but
it's just
> about centered over the centerboard, not sure how that would keep
it from
> pointing into the wind.
>
> Have noticed the same thing on a 19ft Micro with the standard rig,
it would
> heave two beam to wind instead of nose to wind.
>
> Any thoughts, anyone, anyone?
Faxed reply from PCB&F:
"In view of existing weather helm, increasing mizzen area seems undesirable.
Moving the mast forward would have more tendency to negate mizzen action in
heaving-to than the added superstructure.
For heaving-to, we suggest setting a flat-cut riding sail in the form of a
mizzen staysail, set from the mizzen masthead or just below it, tacked to
the hard pont in the house top over the cabin bulkhead, and sheeted to the
mizzen mast.
Please send us hard photos of your boat! We have none of a cruising Chebacco
in action. Congradulations on completing one.
Sincerely
Phil Bolger
E-mail is impractical for use, as we would be overwhelmed by the volume to
the volume to the exclusion of other work..."
So, to heave-to, I would set another sail?!
I don't think so.
I'm thinking I should make the mizzen bigger. Most effect would be had by
stretching it backwards. This would put the added area where it would do the
most good, as far away from the center of lateral resistance as possible.
Adding 18 inches to the clew(?) would increase the sail area by 25% and keep
the basic shape the same. Think that is enough? Then adding 10 inches of
roach and battens would add another 25%, again on the aft part of the sail.
With the added benefit of decreasing the flapping in high wind.
Thoughts? Anyone? Time to cut up some polytarp?
"In view of existing weather helm, increasing mizzen area seems undesirable.
Moving the mast forward would have more tendency to negate mizzen action in
heaving-to than the added superstructure.
For heaving-to, we suggest setting a flat-cut riding sail in the form of a
mizzen staysail, set from the mizzen masthead or just below it, tacked to
the hard pont in the house top over the cabin bulkhead, and sheeted to the
mizzen mast.
Please send us hard photos of your boat! We have none of a cruising Chebacco
in action. Congradulations on completing one.
Sincerely
Phil Bolger
E-mail is impractical for use, as we would be overwhelmed by the volume to
the volume to the exclusion of other work..."
So, to heave-to, I would set another sail?!
I don't think so.
I'm thinking I should make the mizzen bigger. Most effect would be had by
stretching it backwards. This would put the added area where it would do the
most good, as far away from the center of lateral resistance as possible.
Adding 18 inches to the clew(?) would increase the sail area by 25% and keep
the basic shape the same. Think that is enough? Then adding 10 inches of
roach and battens would add another 25%, again on the aft part of the sail.
With the added benefit of decreasing the flapping in high wind.
Thoughts? Anyone? Time to cut up some polytarp?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Spelling" <richard@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 3:49 PM
Subject: [bolger] Chebacco mizzen sizing
> Was out yesterday in about force four, and heaved-to to pull in a reef.
> (much fun, BTW! had to close the hatches to keep dry! got to sit dry in
the
> dodger and watch the water splash the windows! hehe)
>
> Noticed that the best the mizzen would do when heaved to is hold the nose
> about 15 degrees up from beam to the wind.
>
> I've noticed this before in lighter winds, but figured it would work
better
> with the wind kicking up.
>
> I've written PCB&F about this, but was wondering what the collective here
> thought?
>
> This is in the pilothouse version of the Chebacco, centerboard all the way
> down, rudder amidships, mizzen amidships, main let free.
>
> At first I thought it was the windage from the pilot house, but it's just
> about centered over the centerboard, not sure how that would keep it from
> pointing into the wind.
>
> Have noticed the same thing on a 19ft Micro with the standard rig, it
would
> heave two beam to wind instead of nose to wind.
>
> Any thoughts, anyone, anyone?
>
>
>
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How big is the mizzen? 30-40 sq. ft? Compared to the area of the rest of the
hull and house, it's probably not big enough to hold you head-to-wind.
JB
hull and house, it's probably not big enough to hold you head-to-wind.
JB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Spelling" <richard@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: [bolger] Chebacco mizzen sizing
| Might work, but would make it quite a bit harder to reef if the main is
all
| the way down. Couldn't see what was going on, if things were tangled, etc.
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "jeff" <boatbuilding@...>
| To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
| Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 4:52 PM
| Subject: Re: [bolger] Chebacco mizzen sizing
|
|
| > Maybe try it with the main down. See if the mizzen will hold better.
I'm
| > sure the windage of the cabin adds to the mystery but I'm in favor of
the
| > cabin. I gives it the "cool" all business look. Not to mention dryer.
| >
| > Jeff
| >
| >
| >
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More thoughts...
Basically when hove to you are "sailing" downwind with bow steering
Would you not want the rudder over at an angle to deflect the water
flow the opposite way to when sailing normally. And the mizzen
sheeted the same way?
Or am I all confused?
You mentioned using the crew... is that as a sea anchor? Be sure to
attach them with swivel hook so the line doesn't twist:-)
Nels
Basically when hove to you are "sailing" downwind with bow steering
Would you not want the rudder over at an angle to deflect the water
flow the opposite way to when sailing normally. And the mizzen
sheeted the same way?
Or am I all confused?
You mentioned using the crew... is that as a sea anchor? Be sure to
attach them with swivel hook so the line doesn't twist:-)
Nels
--- In bolger@y..., "Richard Spelling" <richard@c...> wrote:
> Was out yesterday in about force four, and heaved-to to pull in a
reef.
> (much fun, BTW! had to close the hatches to keep dry! got to sit
dry in the
> dodger and watch the water splash the windows! hehe)
>
> Noticed that the best the mizzen would do when heaved to is hold
the nose
> about 15 degrees up from beam to the wind.
>
>
Might work, but would make it quite a bit harder to reef if the main is all
the way down. Couldn't see what was going on, if things were tangled, etc.
the way down. Couldn't see what was going on, if things were tangled, etc.
----- Original Message -----
From: "jeff" <boatbuilding@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 4:52 PM
Subject: Re: [bolger] Chebacco mizzen sizing
> Maybe try it with the main down. See if the mizzen will hold better. I'm
> sure the windage of the cabin adds to the mystery but I'm in favor of the
> cabin. I gives it the "cool" all business look. Not to mention dryer.
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
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Maybe try it with the main down. See if the mizzen will hold better. I'm
sure the windage of the cabin adds to the mystery but I'm in favor of the
cabin. I gives it the "cool" all business look. Not to mention dryer.
Jeff
sure the windage of the cabin adds to the mystery but I'm in favor of the
cabin. I gives it the "cool" all business look. Not to mention dryer.
Jeff
I could run a sea anchor, or start the motor. Of, have the crew hold us into
the wind.
However, it's not really a safety issue in any water I'm going to sail in,
with a Chebacco. It's more of a "I thought it would keep the nose into the
wind...
Interesting article on heaving to in heavy weather.
http://boats.com/content/default_detail.jsp?contentid=1284
the wind.
However, it's not really a safety issue in any water I'm going to sail in,
with a Chebacco. It's more of a "I thought it would keep the nose into the
wind...
Interesting article on heaving to in heavy weather.
http://boats.com/content/default_detail.jsp?contentid=1284
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nels" <arvent@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 4:30 PM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Chebacco mizzen sizing
> Wonder if a drogue off the bow would help? When canoeing it is
> helpful to toss a bucket on a painter off the stern so that the canoe
> stays parallel and pointed into the current when taking a time out on
> a fast river. If you can create some drag off the bow it would do the
> same thing perhaps...It would also impede downwind drifting. The
> other option is to start the motor to provide some steerage... Nels
>
> --- In bolger@y..., "John S Harper" <jsharper@u...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Not a bolger design but I had a Nimble 20 yawl that did the same
> thing.
> >
> >http://www.nimbleboat.com/nimble20.html
> >
> > LIke you said, in light-moderate winds, the mizzen would hold the
> bow into
> > the wind. In higher winds, it wouldn't.
> >
> > Does wave action cause this?
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
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It is dropped enough to pull the reef in, but not all the way.
----- Original Message -----
From: "jeff" <boatbuilding@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [bolger] Chebacco mizzen sizing
> Is the main up at this time and flogging while you reef or are you pulling
> the main down completely to reef. There can be a lot of pressure from the
> wind on a sail even if it's weather vaned with the wind.
>
> Jeff
>
> > "Richard Spelling" <richard@...> on 09/23/2002 04:49:52 PM
> >
> > Please respond tobolger@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
> > cc:
> > Subject: [bolger] Chebacco mizzen sizing
> >
> >
> >
> > Was out yesterday in about force four, and heaved-to to pull in a reef.
> > (much fun, BTW! had to close the hatches to keep dry! got to sit dry in
> the
> > dodger and watch the water splash the windows! hehe)
> >
> > Noticed that the best the mizzen would do when heaved to is hold the
nose
> > about 15 degrees up from beam to the wind.
> >
> > I've noticed this before in lighter winds, but figured it would work
> better
> > with the wind kicking up.
> >
> > I've written PCB&F about this, but was wondering what the collective
here
> > thought?
> >
> > This is in the pilothouse version of the Chebacco, centerboard all the
way
> > down, rudder amidships, mizzen amidships, main let free.
> >
> > At first I thought it was the windage from the pilot house, but it's
just
> > about centered over the centerboard, not sure how that would keep it
from
> > pointing into the wind.
> >
> > Have noticed the same thing on a 19ft Micro with the standard rig, it
> would
> > heave two beam to wind instead of nose to wind.
> >
> > Any thoughts, anyone, anyone?
> >
> >
> >
> > Bolger rules!!!
> > - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
> > - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
> > - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts and <snip> away
> > - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA,
> > 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Bolger rules!!!
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> >
>
>
>
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Wonder if a drogue off the bow would help? When canoeing it is
helpful to toss a bucket on a painter off the stern so that the canoe
stays parallel and pointed into the current when taking a time out on
a fast river. If you can create some drag off the bow it would do the
same thing perhaps...It would also impede downwind drifting. The
other option is to start the motor to provide some steerage... Nels
helpful to toss a bucket on a painter off the stern so that the canoe
stays parallel and pointed into the current when taking a time out on
a fast river. If you can create some drag off the bow it would do the
same thing perhaps...It would also impede downwind drifting. The
other option is to start the motor to provide some steerage... Nels
--- In bolger@y..., "John S Harper" <jsharper@u...> wrote:
>
>
> Not a bolger design but I had a Nimble 20 yawl that did the same
thing.
>
>http://www.nimbleboat.com/nimble20.html
>
> LIke you said, in light-moderate winds, the mizzen would hold the
bow into
> the wind. In higher winds, it wouldn't.
>
> Does wave action cause this?
>
>
Is the main up at this time and flogging while you reef or are you pulling
the main down completely to reef. There can be a lot of pressure from the
wind on a sail even if it's weather vaned with the wind.
Jeff
the main down completely to reef. There can be a lot of pressure from the
wind on a sail even if it's weather vaned with the wind.
Jeff
> "Richard Spelling" <richard@...> on 09/23/2002 04:49:52 PMthe
>
> Please respond tobolger@yahoogroups.com
>
> To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
> cc:
> Subject: [bolger] Chebacco mizzen sizing
>
>
>
> Was out yesterday in about force four, and heaved-to to pull in a reef.
> (much fun, BTW! had to close the hatches to keep dry! got to sit dry in
> dodger and watch the water splash the windows! hehe)better
>
> Noticed that the best the mizzen would do when heaved to is hold the nose
> about 15 degrees up from beam to the wind.
>
> I've noticed this before in lighter winds, but figured it would work
> with the wind kicking up.would
>
> I've written PCB&F about this, but was wondering what the collective here
> thought?
>
> This is in the pilothouse version of the Chebacco, centerboard all the way
> down, rudder amidships, mizzen amidships, main let free.
>
> At first I thought it was the windage from the pilot house, but it's just
> about centered over the centerboard, not sure how that would keep it from
> pointing into the wind.
>
> Have noticed the same thing on a 19ft Micro with the standard rig, it
> heave two beam to wind instead of nose to wind.01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
>
> Any thoughts, anyone, anyone?
>
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
> - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts and <snip> away
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> 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Not a bolger design but I had a Nimble 20 yawl that did the same thing.
http://www.nimbleboat.com/nimble20.html
LIke you said, in light-moderate winds, the mizzen would hold the bow into
the wind. In higher winds, it wouldn't.
Does wave action cause this?
"Richard Spelling" <richard@...> on 09/23/2002 04:49:52 PM
Please respond tobolger@yahoogroups.com
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
cc:
Subject: [bolger] Chebacco mizzen sizing
Was out yesterday in about force four, and heaved-to to pull in a reef.
(much fun, BTW! had to close the hatches to keep dry! got to sit dry in the
dodger and watch the water splash the windows! hehe)
Noticed that the best the mizzen would do when heaved to is hold the nose
about 15 degrees up from beam to the wind.
I've noticed this before in lighter winds, but figured it would work better
with the wind kicking up.
I've written PCB&F about this, but was wondering what the collective here
thought?
This is in the pilothouse version of the Chebacco, centerboard all the way
down, rudder amidships, mizzen amidships, main let free.
At first I thought it was the windage from the pilot house, but it's just
about centered over the centerboard, not sure how that would keep it from
pointing into the wind.
Have noticed the same thing on a 19ft Micro with the standard rig, it would
heave two beam to wind instead of nose to wind.
Any thoughts, anyone, anyone?
Bolger rules!!!
- no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
- stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
- add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts and <snip> away
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LIke you said, in light-moderate winds, the mizzen would hold the bow into
the wind. In higher winds, it wouldn't.
Does wave action cause this?
"Richard Spelling" <richard@...> on 09/23/2002 04:49:52 PM
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Subject: [bolger] Chebacco mizzen sizing
Was out yesterday in about force four, and heaved-to to pull in a reef.
(much fun, BTW! had to close the hatches to keep dry! got to sit dry in the
dodger and watch the water splash the windows! hehe)
Noticed that the best the mizzen would do when heaved to is hold the nose
about 15 degrees up from beam to the wind.
I've noticed this before in lighter winds, but figured it would work better
with the wind kicking up.
I've written PCB&F about this, but was wondering what the collective here
thought?
This is in the pilothouse version of the Chebacco, centerboard all the way
down, rudder amidships, mizzen amidships, main let free.
At first I thought it was the windage from the pilot house, but it's just
about centered over the centerboard, not sure how that would keep it from
pointing into the wind.
Have noticed the same thing on a 19ft Micro with the standard rig, it would
heave two beam to wind instead of nose to wind.
Any thoughts, anyone, anyone?
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Was out yesterday in about force four, and heaved-to to pull in a reef.
(much fun, BTW! had to close the hatches to keep dry! got to sit dry in the
dodger and watch the water splash the windows! hehe)
Noticed that the best the mizzen would do when heaved to is hold the nose
about 15 degrees up from beam to the wind.
I've noticed this before in lighter winds, but figured it would work better
with the wind kicking up.
I've written PCB&F about this, but was wondering what the collective here
thought?
This is in the pilothouse version of the Chebacco, centerboard all the way
down, rudder amidships, mizzen amidships, main let free.
At first I thought it was the windage from the pilot house, but it's just
about centered over the centerboard, not sure how that would keep it from
pointing into the wind.
Have noticed the same thing on a 19ft Micro with the standard rig, it would
heave two beam to wind instead of nose to wind.
Any thoughts, anyone, anyone?
(much fun, BTW! had to close the hatches to keep dry! got to sit dry in the
dodger and watch the water splash the windows! hehe)
Noticed that the best the mizzen would do when heaved to is hold the nose
about 15 degrees up from beam to the wind.
I've noticed this before in lighter winds, but figured it would work better
with the wind kicking up.
I've written PCB&F about this, but was wondering what the collective here
thought?
This is in the pilothouse version of the Chebacco, centerboard all the way
down, rudder amidships, mizzen amidships, main let free.
At first I thought it was the windage from the pilot house, but it's just
about centered over the centerboard, not sure how that would keep it from
pointing into the wind.
Have noticed the same thing on a 19ft Micro with the standard rig, it would
heave two beam to wind instead of nose to wind.
Any thoughts, anyone, anyone?