Re: Carved Cleats/Bitts

Hi

I've posted a couple of views (in the Chebaccos folder, in Photos in
Bolger 2) of the Jonesport cleat from the Chebacco plans. There are
no dimemsions shown, but using the scale, it's 12 inches from the
front of the stem to the tip of the "beak".

--- In bolger@y..., "Norm Blitch" <normblitch@m...> wrote:
> Speaking of cleats, does anyone have drawings (a little more
detailed than PCB's prints), photos, or background on the stylized
bow bitt seen on so many of Phil's designs?
>
> Norm
> For a photo of the cleat I made, go tohttp://www.chebacco.com/and
> click on "new articles". In Issue one: July 23, 2001 there is
> a "Letter from Jamie" and one of the photos is "mast collar.jpg"
> Down in the bottom right is the cleat I made for Wayward Lass.
>
> Jamie Orr

A trip over to the CN is always worthwhile. And WL looks a really
well thought out boat. Congrats Jamie.

Given the financial advice higher on the list, a Bolger boat with a
beer locker is the ticket.
--- In bolger@y..., "Norm Blitch" <normblitch@m...> wrote:
> Jamie,
>
> Nice looking work, but I don't think this is the same thing...the
bitt I am referring to is (in profile from side) sort of a "beaked
bird head" facing aft...
>
> Norm


That's the one. Same profile as Bill Samson's cleat in the building
FAQ, but Bill didn't put in the U for the rope. I think his is also
the same width throughout, while mine is wider, narrowing down to
the "beak". The bird's eye is the bronze pin through the cleat.

Jamie
--- In bolger@y..., "Richard Spelling" <richard@c...> wrote:
> Tell me more. I have my bow light at the top of the stem, and I'm
needing
> something to protect it from the anchor line.
>
> I'm thinking have the jonesport cleat project over the light a bit.

That would work -- take it further and you'd have bowsprit/bow roller
affair. If you wanted to, you could keep the anchor out there
permanently.

> I've been trying to figure out how to store and retrieve the anchor
from
> something projecting over the bow. Standing in the forward hatch, I
can just
> reach the cleat on the nose of my boat, I wouldn't be able to reach
further
> forward to put the anchor rode in any kind of guide.
>
> From your picture, it appears you leave the rope in the jonesport
cleat
> guide ring, and bring the anchor and chain (back to the cockpit?).
> Interesting, then to anchor all I would need to do is pull the
anchor out of
> the anchor well and drop it over the side (and set it of course). To
> retrieve, I would hoist it through the ring in the jonesport cleat
then take
> a boat hook or something and grab the line. Pull the anchor and
popp it into
> the storage compartment.

That's about how I do it, working from the cockpit. Although when
taking it in I go forward far enough to reach the line with the
boathook, then take it back to the cockpit. It's a handy system for
single-handing.

> Enough gap under the hatch I think to lead the rope in and close the
> hatch...
>
> Can we get more detailed pictures?

I'll see if I have any. If not, I might use this as an excuse to
finish off the film in the camera.

Jamie
Is there a back story to this design? Is it regional/traditional, or a PCB hallmark?

Norm
----- Original Message -----
From: brucehallman
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 4:24 PM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Carved Cleats/Bitts


--- "Norm Blitch" wrote:
> Ahhh...HERE it is...Image 30 in Building 101

http://www.chebacco.com/chebuild/Image30.gif


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--- "Norm Blitch" wrote:
> Ahhh...HERE it is...Image 30 in Building 101

http://www.chebacco.com/chebuild/Image30.gif
Ahhh...HERE it is...Image 30 in Building 101 in ....http://www.chebacco.com/...

Now it makes a lot more sense...is this a PCB affectation, or something I have just plain missed elsewhere?

Norm
----- Original Message -----
From: jas_orr
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 11:16 AM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Carved Cleats/Bitts


Are you talking about the Jonesport cleat?


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Jamie,

Nice looking work, but I don't think this is the same thing...the bitt I am referring to is (in profile from side) sort of a "beaked bird head" facing aft...

Norm

----- Original Message -----
From: jas_orr
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 11:16 AM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Carved Cleats/Bitts


Are you talking about the Jonesport cleat? A wonderful invention for
leading the anchor rope over the bow, as well as a good cleat.
For a photo of the cleat I made, go tohttp://www.chebacco.com/and
click on "new articles". In Issue one: July 23, 2001 there is
a "Letter from Jamie" and one of the photos is "mast collar.jpg"
Down in the bottom right is the cleat I made for Wayward Lass.

Jamie Orr

--- In bolger@y..., "Norm Blitch" <normblitch@m...> wrote:
> Speaking of cleats, does anyone have drawings (a little more
detailed than PCB's prints), photos, or background on the stylized
bow bitt seen on so many of Phil's designs?
>
> Norm
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: pvanderwaart
> To: bolger@y...
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 10:16 AM
> Subject: [bolger] Re: Big log --- Duckworks alert!
>
> Think of all the cleats you could carve.
>
> Peter
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


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Tell me more. I have my bow light at the top of the stem, and I'm needing
something to protect it from the anchor line.

I'm thinking have the jonesport cleat project over the light a bit.

I've been trying to figure out how to store and retrieve the anchor from
something projecting over the bow. Standing in the forward hatch, I can just
reach the cleat on the nose of my boat, I wouldn't be able to reach further
forward to put the anchor rode in any kind of guide.

From your picture, it appears you leave the rope in the jonesport cleat
guide ring, and bring the anchor and chain (back to the cockpit?).
Interesting, then to anchor all I would need to do is pull the anchor out of
the anchor well and drop it over the side (and set it of course). To
retrieve, I would hoist it through the ring in the jonesport cleat then take
a boat hook or something and grab the line. Pull the anchor and popp it into
the storage compartment.

Enough gap under the hatch I think to lead the rope in and close the
hatch...

Can we get more detailed pictures?

----- Original Message -----
From: "jas_orr" <jas_orr@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 10:16 AM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Carved Cleats/Bitts


> Are you talking about the Jonesport cleat? A wonderful invention for
> leading the anchor rope over the bow, as well as a good cleat. I
> scaled mine up from the profile on the Chebacco plans. If I remember
> rightly, the only thing not clear there is the vertical U cut into
> the forward part to hold the anchor line.
>
> For more detailed drawings you might try looking for articles on
> Bobcat, PCB's 12 foot catboat. I think WoodenBoat did a series of
> articles on building her that showed some details -- the book on
> building Bobcat might also have these. I don't have either at hand
> to check, but I saw drawings or pictures somewhere, and these are the
> most likely places.
>
> For a photo of the cleat I made, go tohttp://www.chebacco.com/and
> click on "new articles". In Issue one: July 23, 2001 there is
> a "Letter from Jamie" and one of the photos is "mast collar.jpg"
> Down in the bottom right is the cleat I made for Wayward Lass.
>
> Jamie Orr
>
> --- In bolger@y..., "Norm Blitch" <normblitch@m...> wrote:
> > Speaking of cleats, does anyone have drawings (a little more
> detailed than PCB's prints), photos, or background on the stylized
> bow bitt seen on so many of Phil's designs?
> >
> > Norm
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: pvanderwaart
> > To: bolger@y...
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 10:16 AM
> > Subject: [bolger] Re: Big log --- Duckworks alert!
> >
> > Think of all the cleats you could carve.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
> - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts and <snip> away
> - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA,
01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
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>
Are you talking about the Jonesport cleat? A wonderful invention for
leading the anchor rope over the bow, as well as a good cleat. I
scaled mine up from the profile on the Chebacco plans. If I remember
rightly, the only thing not clear there is the vertical U cut into
the forward part to hold the anchor line.

For more detailed drawings you might try looking for articles on
Bobcat, PCB's 12 foot catboat. I think WoodenBoat did a series of
articles on building her that showed some details -- the book on
building Bobcat might also have these. I don't have either at hand
to check, but I saw drawings or pictures somewhere, and these are the
most likely places.

For a photo of the cleat I made, go tohttp://www.chebacco.com/and
click on "new articles". In Issue one: July 23, 2001 there is
a "Letter from Jamie" and one of the photos is "mast collar.jpg"
Down in the bottom right is the cleat I made for Wayward Lass.

Jamie Orr

--- In bolger@y..., "Norm Blitch" <normblitch@m...> wrote:
> Speaking of cleats, does anyone have drawings (a little more
detailed than PCB's prints), photos, or background on the stylized
bow bitt seen on so many of Phil's designs?
>
> Norm
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: pvanderwaart
> To: bolger@y...
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 10:16 AM
> Subject: [bolger] Re: Big log --- Duckworks alert!
>
> Think of all the cleats you could carve.
>
> Peter
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Speaking of cleats, does anyone have drawings (a little more detailed than PCB's prints), photos, or background on the stylized bow bitt seen on so many of Phil's designs?

Norm

----- Original Message -----
From: pvanderwaart
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 10:16 AM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Big log --- Duckworks alert!

Think of all the cleats you could carve.

Peter


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