Re: strange reluctance
You've probably seen them:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/squareboat%20dinghy/
I don't mind sanding wood all that much, but I don't like to sand
glass and epoxy. I've got a lot of glass and epoxy on this boat, but
not everywhere. Maybe I'll give the heat gun trick a try. I mostly
sand with a disc in a drill.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/squareboat%20dinghy/
I don't mind sanding wood all that much, but I don't like to sand
glass and epoxy. I've got a lot of glass and epoxy on this boat, but
not everywhere. Maybe I'll give the heat gun trick a try. I mostly
sand with a disc in a drill.
--- In bolger@y..., "mikestockstill" <mkstocks@b...> wrote:
> Sanding is my least favorite job - bleech. I love to plane,
> throughly enjoy nailing, and tolerate using a table saw.
>
> I round off the chine edges with a plane, and then use a small block
> with 80 or 220 grit paper, depending on my mood. I do as much
> sanding prior to installation as possible.
>
> If you post a photo we can at least cheer you on and give you
> encouragement. Then you can talk more specifically about what it is
> that you are sanding.
>
> With respect to epoxy, switching from a palm sander to an orbital
> sander made a huge difference in improving my attitude too.
>
> A heat gun is your best friend when it comes to taking off sharp
> epoxy edges. Soften the compound and run your scraper over it for a
> rather neat result.
>
> Mike
>
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Sanding is my least favorite job - bleech. I love to plane,
throughly enjoy nailing, and tolerate using a table saw.
I round off the chine edges with a plane, and then use a small block
with 80 or 220 grit paper, depending on my mood. I do as much
sanding prior to installation as possible.
If you post a photo we can at least cheer you on and give you
encouragement. Then you can talk more specifically about what it is
that you are sanding.
With respect to epoxy, switching from a palm sander to an orbital
sander made a huge difference in improving my attitude too.
A heat gun is your best friend when it comes to taking off sharp
epoxy edges. Soften the compound and run your scraper over it for a
rather neat result.
Mike
throughly enjoy nailing, and tolerate using a table saw.
I round off the chine edges with a plane, and then use a small block
with 80 or 220 grit paper, depending on my mood. I do as much
sanding prior to installation as possible.
If you post a photo we can at least cheer you on and give you
encouragement. Then you can talk more specifically about what it is
that you are sanding.
With respect to epoxy, switching from a palm sander to an orbital
sander made a huge difference in improving my attitude too.
A heat gun is your best friend when it comes to taking off sharp
epoxy edges. Soften the compound and run your scraper over it for a
rather neat result.
Mike
--- In bolger@y..., "Lincoln Ross" <lincolnr@r...> wrote:
> The boat is not for me, and the purpose of the sanding is more to
get
> rid of sharp spots that would cut passengers and to help the paint
> stick than it is cosmetic. It will definitely still be a "workboat"
> finish. I have another boat that I didn't sand much where it was
> already sort of smooth, and the paint comes off more easily than
I'd
> like. On a different boat with some sanding the same primer sticks
> tenaciously, which led me into the trap of not sanding enough the
next
> time.
The boat is not for me, and the purpose of the sanding is more to get
rid of sharp spots that would cut passengers and to help the paint
stick than it is cosmetic. It will definitely still be a "workboat"
finish. I have another boat that I didn't sand much where it was
already sort of smooth, and the paint comes off more easily than I'd
like. On a different boat with some sanding the same primer sticks
tenaciously, which led me into the trap of not sanding enough the next
time.
Someone else mentioned hiring kids. I don't have surplus money or any
kids. BTW, make sure you pay the kids enough or you may just make them
cynical about work, as I became years ago in similar circumstances. It
would be better not to be paid than to have a pretense of such.
Russians say "as long as they pretend to pay us, we will pretend to
work". I once made $20 after constructing, insulating, and putting
extensive racks in an entire room (cold cellar). Would have been $40
but I busted an oil line by accident. Then there's the time it took me
a whole summer to make $180 and put in 160 hours.
That may be part of the strange reluctance. I wanted to make this boat
so I massively underbid! Maybe I should have offered to do it for the
cost of materials!
rid of sharp spots that would cut passengers and to help the paint
stick than it is cosmetic. It will definitely still be a "workboat"
finish. I have another boat that I didn't sand much where it was
already sort of smooth, and the paint comes off more easily than I'd
like. On a different boat with some sanding the same primer sticks
tenaciously, which led me into the trap of not sanding enough the next
time.
Someone else mentioned hiring kids. I don't have surplus money or any
kids. BTW, make sure you pay the kids enough or you may just make them
cynical about work, as I became years ago in similar circumstances. It
would be better not to be paid than to have a pretense of such.
Russians say "as long as they pretend to pay us, we will pretend to
work". I once made $20 after constructing, insulating, and putting
extensive racks in an entire room (cold cellar). Would have been $40
but I busted an oil line by accident. Then there's the time it took me
a whole summer to make $180 and put in 160 hours.
That may be part of the strange reluctance. I wanted to make this boat
so I massively underbid! Maybe I should have offered to do it for the
cost of materials!
--- In bolger@y..., "brucehallman" <brucehallman@y...> wrote:
> --- In bolger@y..., "Lincoln Ross" <lincolnr@r...> wrote:
> > the pleasure of sanding glass and
> > epoxy.
>
> IMO:
>
> Most (if not all) 'sanding' is
> for pure cosmetic reasons, and
> if it is getting you down, don't
> do it! Un-sanded boats still float.
--- In bolger@y..., "Lincoln Ross" <lincolnr@r...> wrote:
Most (if not all) 'sanding' is
for pure cosmetic reasons, and
if it is getting you down, don't
do it! Un-sanded boats still float.
> the pleasure of sanding glass andIMO:
> epoxy.
Most (if not all) 'sanding' is
for pure cosmetic reasons, and
if it is getting you down, don't
do it! Un-sanded boats still float.
Instead of allowance, I paid the kids to work on the boat...
They got to do all the sanding!
They got to do all the sanding!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lincoln Ross" <lincolnr@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 5:43 PM
Subject: [bolger] strange reluctance
| Unlike all you totally gung ho builders out there, I find myself
| strangely reluctant to walk over to the garage I'm renting and spend a
| few hours to finish the squareboat style dinghy I've been working on.
| Of course this reluctance has been a constant problem and maybe is why
| I ended up class of '86+/-5 in college (i.e. start '81, finish'91).
| OTOH, maybe a lot of it is the pleasure of sanding glass and
| epoxy. There must be other sufferers from this syndrome. I think we
| should be issued longer lifespans than you efficient people.
|
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Unlike all you totally gung ho builders out there, I find myself
strangely reluctant to walk over to the garage I'm renting and spend a
few hours to finish the squareboat style dinghy I've been working on.
Of course this reluctance has been a constant problem and maybe is why
I ended up class of '86+/-5 in college (i.e. start '81, finish'91).
OTOH, maybe a lot of it is the pleasure of sanding glass and
epoxy. There must be other sufferers from this syndrome. I think we
should be issued longer lifespans than you efficient people.
strangely reluctant to walk over to the garage I'm renting and spend a
few hours to finish the squareboat style dinghy I've been working on.
Of course this reluctance has been a constant problem and maybe is why
I ended up class of '86+/-5 in college (i.e. start '81, finish'91).
OTOH, maybe a lot of it is the pleasure of sanding glass and
epoxy. There must be other sufferers from this syndrome. I think we
should be issued longer lifespans than you efficient people.