Re: test of june bug Bilge keels
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Thanks. Like Phil B. has said, "The urge to modify a design by a
home builder is irresistable." I see you use my favorite sailcloth.
Reed
> files for June Bugs, Botany Bay....... you'll find a photo.where
> The centre line of the keels is slightly aft of the possition
> the leeboard would have gone.Hi Paul,
> cheers paul
Thanks. Like Phil B. has said, "The urge to modify a design by a
home builder is irresistable." I see you use my favorite sailcloth.
Reed
--- In bolger@y..., "joannabruce4338" <jbn@p...> wrote:
hobie before they were 7 year old.
surfaces its stonger.
be perfect for a short shaft seagull.
We put a 2.5 hp seagull on the back of our folding schooner, (31').
it was a shrt shaft and we had to have 2 sitting on the stern to go
good. it ran fine . max knots was achieved at 3/4 revs. actually
faster than the 10' dinghy than it was bought for!
has something to do.
cheers Paul
> How many kids? "all" implies at least 3!Only 4 are sailing yet. the 3 oldest have all been trapezing off a
hobie before they were 7 year old.
>DRAG is a rather technical term in my book. by glueing next to 2
> Design (!) question: why were the keels butted against the shoes,
> rather than on top of them? I understand that they might be a bit
> more secure as you have them, but on top of the shoes they might
> create less drag.
surfaces its stonger.
>make
> I intend to try my British Seagull outboard on the back, so will
> the transom a bit higher.If you lowered the deck and made a transom at that hieght it would
be perfect for a short shaft seagull.
We put a 2.5 hp seagull on the back of our folding schooner, (31').
it was a shrt shaft and we had to have 2 sitting on the stern to go
good. it ran fine . max knots was achieved at 3/4 revs. actually
faster than the 10' dinghy than it was bought for!
>bit
> Have you tried the sprit sail that is specified as an alternate rig
> for the cartopper? Looks as if it might fit, and the spars are a
> shorter and easier to stow.having 2 masts and 4 sails allows easy sail reduction and everyone
has something to do.
cheers Paul
>
>
>
>
How many kids? "all" implies at least 3!
Design (!) question: why were the keels butted against the shoes,
rather than on top of them? I understand that they might be a bit
more secure as you have them, but on top of the shoes they might
create less drag.
I intend to try my British Seagull outboard on the back, so will make
the transom a bit higher.
Have you tried the sprit sail that is specified as an alternate rig
for the cartopper? Looks as if it might fit, and the spars are a bit
shorter and easier to stow.
to be really manouverable the kids all
Design (!) question: why were the keels butted against the shoes,
rather than on top of them? I understand that they might be a bit
more secure as you have them, but on top of the shoes they might
create less drag.
I intend to try my British Seagull outboard on the back, so will make
the transom a bit higher.
Have you tried the sprit sail that is specified as an alternate rig
for the cartopper? Looks as if it might fit, and the spars are a bit
shorter and easier to stow.
to be really manouverable the kids all
> sit on the prow, And i mean all the kids.
> cheers paul
--- In bolger@y..., "joannabruce4338" <jbn@p...> wrote:
better. , 2 strokes per boat length.
a small skeg wouldnt hurt. to be really manouverable the kids all
sit on the prow, And i mean all the kids.
cheers paul
> How do the keels affect the rowing?they improved it!!!!. She still turns in her own length, but glides
better. , 2 strokes per boat length.
a small skeg wouldnt hurt. to be really manouverable the kids all
sit on the prow, And i mean all the kids.
cheers paul
How do the keels affect the rowing?
--- In bolger@y..., "captreed2000" <captreed@a...> wrote:
The keels are 4" deep and 3' long they are screwd through the bottom
and epoxied . they snug up against the runners . If you search the
files for June Bugs, Botany Bay....... you'll find a photo.
The centre line of the keels is slightly aft of the possition where
the leeboard would have gone.
cheers paul
>keels?
> > something to think about
> > cheers paul
>
> Yeah, sounds great. Have you posted the specs for the bilge
> I'm curious about their size and construction.g'day reed,
>
> Reed
The keels are 4" deep and 3' long they are screwd through the bottom
and epoxied . they snug up against the runners . If you search the
files for June Bugs, Botany Bay....... you'll find a photo.
The centre line of the keels is slightly aft of the possition where
the leeboard would have gone.
cheers paul
> something to think aboutYeah, sounds great. Have you posted the specs for the bilge keels?
> cheers paul
I'm curious about their size and construction.
Reed
Last weekend I finally got to test the bilgekeels I fitted to the
June bug 12 months ago. We sailed with a mirror dinghy On our local
lake in winds from light to strong.
In light winds we couldnt tack near as well , but as the wind
increased we were pleasantly suprised to find we could tack as fast
and high . on long beats we would lay back and just plonk along
whilst the crew in the mirror had to leap about to balance it all.
Later the other crew went for a sail in the JB and were a
bitsuprised to.
After all the discussion over time on leeboards and lifting up
and down etc I think it all becomes much of a muchness. . we could
still sail into water so shallow you could stick your hand on the
bottom with no diddling around. beaching was a doddle . the other
boats would slow down whilst they fiddled with swing rudders and a
centerboard. we on the other hand would sheet in , hang on and
charge at the beach, like a hobie cat, till we ploughed up in the mud.
1/4 " ply is starting to seem like armour compared to some of the
othr dinghies out there.
something to think about
cheers paul
June bug 12 months ago. We sailed with a mirror dinghy On our local
lake in winds from light to strong.
In light winds we couldnt tack near as well , but as the wind
increased we were pleasantly suprised to find we could tack as fast
and high . on long beats we would lay back and just plonk along
whilst the crew in the mirror had to leap about to balance it all.
Later the other crew went for a sail in the JB and were a
bitsuprised to.
After all the discussion over time on leeboards and lifting up
and down etc I think it all becomes much of a muchness. . we could
still sail into water so shallow you could stick your hand on the
bottom with no diddling around. beaching was a doddle . the other
boats would slow down whilst they fiddled with swing rudders and a
centerboard. we on the other hand would sheet in , hang on and
charge at the beach, like a hobie cat, till we ploughed up in the mud.
1/4 " ply is starting to seem like armour compared to some of the
othr dinghies out there.
something to think about
cheers paul