Re: Bolger Boat Names
What about "Insider Trading" or "Inside Trader"
--- In bolger@y..., Leoandsandy@J... wrote:
> Do you consider LADY JANE offensive for my Martha Jane? LeoNo... But Martha Stewart would be:-) Nels
Do you consider LADY JANE offensive for my Martha Jane? Leo
--- In bolger@y..., Stew Miller <junkmail@m...> wrote:
from a story in Houseboat magazine, 'Rental Unit'. Folks will get our
of your way with that one. And I saw a run about named "Brew Ski'.
The best one I've seen was on a 30 foot clorox bottle power boat:
'Blew401k'
Gotta love it. :)
--T
> >I only wish I'd thought of "Your Ad Here" first.'No Wake'. I also like 'Your Name Here'. I've always liked the one
>
> From the descriptions of the sneakeasy, perhaps a good name would be
from a story in Houseboat magazine, 'Rental Unit'. Folks will get our
of your way with that one. And I saw a run about named "Brew Ski'.
The best one I've seen was on a 30 foot clorox bottle power boat:
'Blew401k'
Gotta love it. :)
--T
Bruce,
Not to blow me own horn or nothin' like that but I have been
toying with " Water Log".......:-)
Trying not to grin,
Peter Lenihan,who would also like to hold dibs on"Lily Pad",along the
St.Lawrence.......
Not to blow me own horn or nothin' like that but I have been
toying with " Water Log".......:-)
Trying not to grin,
Peter Lenihan,who would also like to hold dibs on"Lily Pad",along the
St.Lawrence.......
--- In bolger@y..., "Bruce Hector" <bruce_hector@h...> wrote:
>
> Peter: What about "der Floatermaus", "Marquis de Starboard", "Ill
> Repute", or just "River Walker".
>
> Bruce Hector
I hate advertising too, at least i hate it when it's not making ME
money.
Peter: What about "der Floatermaus", "Marquis de Starboard", "Ill
Repute", or just "River Walker".
Bruce Hector
money.
Peter: What about "der Floatermaus", "Marquis de Starboard", "Ill
Repute", or just "River Walker".
Bruce Hector
Fear not Stew! For in either WINDERMERE,DAKOTA and even WYOMING
things are of such a grand scale that you can bring your master
stateroom right up to a house standard dungeon.Beyond that,it is
difficult to advise since such nasty :-) business is soooo
personal.Best to consult with your willing crew as to choice hard
points for chain and leather attachments and don't forget to allow
space for the swing and mirrors!Imagine the startled looks on other
boaters in the same anchorage when the howling begins after midnight!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,master dungeon designer/consultant looking forward to
his own particular playground toys,along the St.Lawrence.......
things are of such a grand scale that you can bring your master
stateroom right up to a house standard dungeon.Beyond that,it is
difficult to advise since such nasty :-) business is soooo
personal.Best to consult with your willing crew as to choice hard
points for chain and leather attachments and don't forget to allow
space for the swing and mirrors!Imagine the startled looks on other
boaters in the same anchorage when the howling begins after midnight!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,master dungeon designer/consultant looking forward to
his own particular playground toys,along the St.Lawrence.......
--- In bolger@y..., Stew Miller <junkmail@m...> wrote:
Oh yeah Peter, I'd like to know where you mount those attachment
points in the Windermere. I'll need a few in my cabin too, for
naughty Leigh.
I have Fritz pretty well talked in to "Phil sent me" for the name of his
sneakeasy. If the joke isn't obvious I will explain further.
HJ
Stew Miller wrote:
sneakeasy. If the joke isn't obvious I will explain further.
HJ
Stew Miller wrote:
>
> >I only wish I'd thought of "Your Ad Here" first.
>
> >From the descriptions of the sneakeasy, perhaps a good name would be 'No Wake'. I also like 'Your Name Here'. I've always liked the one from a story in Houseboat magazine, 'Rental Unit'. Folks will get our of your way with that one. And I saw a run about named "Brew Ski'.
>
> I thought a lot about names while going down the river this week; 'Pleasure Craft' sounded good at first, but I decided that would be WAY too confusing. 'Miss Creant' would be good, especially if docked next to 'Riff Raff'. If you're into horses, 'Bay [any-kind-of-horse]' would be good, but most folks wouldn't get the double meaning. And my favorite of the week, 'Harbor Fugitive'.
>
> My wife's name is Kimberleigh, so I thought 'Hard a Leigh' would be good for our boat, but she doesn't know what that means. So the current name-to-be is 'Nauti Leigh'. She like that because it sounds like nautically, and it has double meaning. Oh yeah Peter, I'd like to know where you mount those attachment points in the Windermere. I'll need a few in my cabin too, for naughty Leigh.
>
> >Those flat panel sides cry out for it. Why I could rent billboard space to compensate
> >for the marina charges!
>
> Although I hate advertising, if you were inside the boat at least you wouldn't have to look at it :)
>
> Stew
>
>
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A friend of mine once had a boat, he called "STAND CLEAR".
Stuart
Stuart
>I only wish I'd thought of "Your Ad Here" first.From the descriptions of the sneakeasy, perhaps a good name would be 'No Wake'. I also like 'Your Name Here'. I've always liked the one from a story in Houseboat magazine, 'Rental Unit'. Folks will get our of your way with that one. And I saw a run about named "Brew Ski'.
I thought a lot about names while going down the river this week; 'Pleasure Craft' sounded good at first, but I decided that would be WAY too confusing. 'Miss Creant' would be good, especially if docked next to 'Riff Raff'. If you're into horses, 'Bay [any-kind-of-horse]' would be good, but most folks wouldn't get the double meaning. And my favorite of the week, 'Harbor Fugitive'.
My wife's name is Kimberleigh, so I thought 'Hard a Leigh' would be good for our boat, but she doesn't know what that means. So the current name-to-be is 'Nauti Leigh'. She like that because it sounds like nautically, and it has double meaning. Oh yeah Peter, I'd like to know where you mount those attachment points in the Windermere. I'll need a few in my cabin too, for naughty Leigh.
>Those flat panel sides cry out for it. Why I could rent billboard space to compensateAlthough I hate advertising, if you were inside the boat at least you wouldn't have to look at it :)
>for the marina charges!
Stew
PCB&F's?
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From: "brucehallman" <brucehallman@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 3:05 PM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Bolger Boat Names
> I take 'dibs' on the
> Bolger Boat Name:
>
>
> PCB's
>
>
>
> ...a reference to the designer,
> not the industrial pollutant. :)
>
>
>
>
>
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I take 'dibs' on the
Bolger Boat Name:
PCB's
...a reference to the designer,
not the industrial pollutant. :)
Bolger Boat Name:
PCB's
...a reference to the designer,
not the industrial pollutant. :)
The main reason for the double bottom was to be able to make insert
areas to hold the cane seats in place. I glued 1x2 pieces to the
floor and glued 1/4 luan to make the floor. It results in an
additional 1 inch above the original floor surface. Since I made the
frames 2 1/2 tall there is still 1 1/2 inch of the frame above the
top of the floor. It is a bit of a nuisance and potentially a hazard
sticking up like that. I plan to cut the frames flush to the floor
which should not effect the strength of the structure. I subsequently
filled in the insert areas which gave more versatility being able to
place the seats wherever for balance or just to make moving about in
the boat easier. It has given the floor of the cockpit more rigidity
as well.
Steve Bosquette
areas to hold the cane seats in place. I glued 1x2 pieces to the
floor and glued 1/4 luan to make the floor. It results in an
additional 1 inch above the original floor surface. Since I made the
frames 2 1/2 tall there is still 1 1/2 inch of the frame above the
top of the floor. It is a bit of a nuisance and potentially a hazard
sticking up like that. I plan to cut the frames flush to the floor
which should not effect the strength of the structure. I subsequently
filled in the insert areas which gave more versatility being able to
place the seats wherever for balance or just to make moving about in
the boat easier. It has given the floor of the cockpit more rigidity
as well.
Steve Bosquette
--- In bolger@y..., Chance Curtis <sneakeasy2002@y...> wrote:
>
> Tell us more about the double bottom. Was it placed over the lower
frames of the bulkheads? How did you frame it up over the cockpit
area ?
Tell us more about the double bottom. Was it placed over the lower frames of the bulkheads? How did you frame it up over the cockpit area ?
CCG
Steve Bosquette <sbosquette@...> wrote:Chance
I chose not to put in the limber holes in my Sneakeasy. I had
planned to put in a double bottom of sorts on the inside cockpit
area, which I did. Because of the chop here in Casco Bay Maine there
is a little spray but it is easily removed with a sponge. Unless you
left the boat uncovered in the rain there is not much water inside to
care about. Limber holes are a good idea per Fritz and these are the
largest of any 26 ft design I've seen. A comment about the hp/speed
thing. Because it is a sharpie hull to go over 25 or 30 knots and
put it into a sharp hard turn the downside chine would dig in
tripping the boat and rolling it over. Could the hull handle more
weight, yes lots more. Could the hull handle more hp the 25, sure it
could and she would go straight ahead like a rocket, but don't turn
her sharp at speed.!!!! There was also a question about turning
radius. It depends on speed of course but I did a 360 turn at about
10 knts and she seemed to turn in a 200 feet diameter. This was a
windless day, wind really effects the Sneakeasy so she requires
added vigilance when approaching dock on a windy day.
Steve Bosquette
CCG
Steve Bosquette <sbosquette@...> wrote:Chance
I chose not to put in the limber holes in my Sneakeasy. I had
planned to put in a double bottom of sorts on the inside cockpit
area, which I did. Because of the chop here in Casco Bay Maine there
is a little spray but it is easily removed with a sponge. Unless you
left the boat uncovered in the rain there is not much water inside to
care about. Limber holes are a good idea per Fritz and these are the
largest of any 26 ft design I've seen. A comment about the hp/speed
thing. Because it is a sharpie hull to go over 25 or 30 knots and
put it into a sharp hard turn the downside chine would dig in
tripping the boat and rolling it over. Could the hull handle more
weight, yes lots more. Could the hull handle more hp the 25, sure it
could and she would go straight ahead like a rocket, but don't turn
her sharp at speed.!!!! There was also a question about turning
radius. It depends on speed of course but I did a 360 turn at about
10 knts and she seemed to turn in a 200 feet diameter. This was a
windless day, wind really effects the Sneakeasy so she requires
added vigilance when approaching dock on a windy day.
Steve Bosquette
--- In bolger@y..., Fritz Funk <fritzf@a...> wrote:
> Chance,
>
> The limber holes Bolger designed are huge and do the opposite of
> of great ideas buried in the detail of Bolger's plans!
>
> --Fritz
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And we now see the beginnings of our Martha Jane, Outbox. Leo
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I agree,I am way head of you. But i want to buy the plans from PCB but i heard he doesnt control the rights anymore.
CCG
Fritz Funk <fritzf@...> wrote:Chance,
The limber holes Bolger designed are huge and do the opposite of you what
were speculating. Water sluices very easily back to the stern, and they
are a great way to rinse out bilge gunk too. The limber holes (Bolger calls
them "drains") are 1 inch by 3 inches!! Bolger put a lot of careful
thought into the design. The plans are cheap, only $35 from Payson when I
last checked and you could support Mr. Bolger that way, plus save yourself
a lot of worrying about demons in the night. I'm concerned when I read
that newcomers to the list are picking up on idle speculation about flaws
in a design that a simple glance at the plans could resolve. There's a lot
of great ideas buried in the detail of Bolger's plans!
--Fritz
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CCG
Fritz Funk <fritzf@...> wrote:Chance,
The limber holes Bolger designed are huge and do the opposite of you what
were speculating. Water sluices very easily back to the stern, and they
are a great way to rinse out bilge gunk too. The limber holes (Bolger calls
them "drains") are 1 inch by 3 inches!! Bolger put a lot of careful
thought into the design. The plans are cheap, only $35 from Payson when I
last checked and you could support Mr. Bolger that way, plus save yourself
a lot of worrying about demons in the night. I'm concerned when I read
that newcomers to the list are picking up on idle speculation about flaws
in a design that a simple glance at the plans could resolve. There's a lot
of great ideas buried in the detail of Bolger's plans!
--Fritz
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> I don't know about water arrangements. Not sure whether there was aI'm attempting a 50' Wyoming in 3 pieces, each about 17' long. It's being
> separate deck or if I was walking on the bottom. I think it was a
> deck. Ask Steve Bosquette aka sneakeasy2000, it's his boat. I would be
> very surprised if the full sized plans didn't show limber holes to let
> the water out, unless a watertight compartment was indicated.
built in a garage where the max length I can get is 19'. With a square
sided, flat bottom boat, it's can be done. Just cut the first set of side
panels several feet longer, same with the bottom panel. This allows you to
carry the profile and curves to the next section. Just cut the panels where
the dividing bulkhead is and use the extra length for the beginning of the
second set of panels. Pick a center bulkhead and make two identical
bulkheads. Cut them at the same time to ensure and exact fit. The
Sneakeasy is a perfect example because of the flat run.
I wouldn't want to do this with any boat that has compound curves, but a
boat with verticle side panels and flat run, all you have to deal with is 90
degree angles and any framing square can do that job.
I wouldn't hesitate to build a sneakeasy in two 13' pieces.
Jeff
www.dreamwater.net/cosailor
>> I only wish I'd thought of "Your Ad Here" first. Those flat panelHe showed this in the cartoon for the Keel Sharpie 55 -- sort of a
>> sides cry out for it. Why I could rent billboard space to compensate
>> for the marina charges!
>
>Humm... on the 50ft sides of a boat like the Wyo, I wonder if I could get
>enough ad space to pay for the cruise. Get paid to wonder about in marinas,
>shore lines, etc. (said tongue in check)
mural version of his letterhead.
-D
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THe original correspondent wanted to go to 23 feet, and I figured it
would be easy to just build it without the drake tails and add them
later. It's very square back there, so it shouldn't be hard to do or
to figure out the required mods. In fact, I suspect the back part of
the boat is so square that it would be easy to make an even longer
stern section and shorter bow section.
I don't know about water arrangements. Not sure whether there was a
separate deck or if I was walking on the bottom. I think it was a
deck. Ask Steve Bosquette aka sneakeasy2000, it's his boat. I would be
very surprised if the full sized plans didn't show limber holes to let
the water out, unless a watertight compartment was indicated.
would be easy to just build it without the drake tails and add them
later. It's very square back there, so it shouldn't be hard to do or
to figure out the required mods. In fact, I suspect the back part of
the boat is so square that it would be easy to make an even longer
stern section and shorter bow section.
I don't know about water arrangements. Not sure whether there was a
separate deck or if I was walking on the bottom. I think it was a
deck. Ask Steve Bosquette aka sneakeasy2000, it's his boat. I would be
very surprised if the full sized plans didn't show limber holes to let
the water out, unless a watertight compartment was indicated.
--- In bolger@y..., Chance Curtis <sneakeasy2002@y...> wrote:
>
> Thats good information. The sides are scarfed together and go all
the way back and form the sides of the Drake Tails. I like your idea
of a modular building of the sections, but other than building up the
frame, deck,windshield, and seats I don't believe that's feasible. And
of course the problem is few people have a 30 foot long space to work
in. Did you notice how the internal water was handled on the Sneak
easy you were in? It appears as though the bulkheads form little water
traps that prevent the water inside from going to the back of the boat
where it can be pumped out. How do they handle that problem?
> CCG
snip
> Bolger once commented on having nice seascapes painted on theMy idea was to name the boat "War & Peace," and to paint the grey
> sides of his big sharpies.
outline of a battleship on one side, and a J-boat on the other.
PHV
David
You probably have already looked at Fritz's construction notes
http://www.alaska.net/~fritzf/Boats/Sneakeasy/SnekCNote.htm
This will give you a reasonable idea of how to judge how long you would
take.
Fritz has a better than average tool collection, and he has lots of
experience developed by owning wooden boats and numerous small boat
completion's. He was slowed by building in two pieces.
HJ
struelpeter wrote:
You probably have already looked at Fritz's construction notes
http://www.alaska.net/~fritzf/Boats/Sneakeasy/SnekCNote.htm
This will give you a reasonable idea of how to judge how long you would
take.
Fritz has a better than average tool collection, and he has lots of
experience developed by owning wooden boats and numerous small boat
completion's. He was slowed by building in two pieces.
HJ
struelpeter wrote:
>
> Fritz
>
> Thanks for the answers that you were able to give,, a couple of those
> questions are kind of like guessing how long it takes some one you
> don't know to tie there shoes,, but I had to ask, oh well.......
>
> David Bosworth
>
>
Chance
I chose not to put in the limber holes in my Sneakeasy. I had
planned to put in a double bottom of sorts on the inside cockpit
area, which I did. Because of the chop here in Casco Bay Maine there
is a little spray but it is easily removed with a sponge. Unless you
left the boat uncovered in the rain there is not much water inside to
care about. Limber holes are a good idea per Fritz and these are the
largest of any 26 ft design I've seen. A comment about the hp/speed
thing. Because it is a sharpie hull to go over 25 or 30 knots and
put it into a sharp hard turn the downside chine would dig in
tripping the boat and rolling it over. Could the hull handle more
weight, yes lots more. Could the hull handle more hp the 25, sure it
could and she would go straight ahead like a rocket, but don't turn
her sharp at speed.!!!! There was also a question about turning
radius. It depends on speed of course but I did a 360 turn at about
10 knts and she seemed to turn in a 200 feet diameter. This was a
windless day, wind really effects the Sneakeasy so she requires
added vigilance when approaching dock on a windy day.
Steve Bosquette
I chose not to put in the limber holes in my Sneakeasy. I had
planned to put in a double bottom of sorts on the inside cockpit
area, which I did. Because of the chop here in Casco Bay Maine there
is a little spray but it is easily removed with a sponge. Unless you
left the boat uncovered in the rain there is not much water inside to
care about. Limber holes are a good idea per Fritz and these are the
largest of any 26 ft design I've seen. A comment about the hp/speed
thing. Because it is a sharpie hull to go over 25 or 30 knots and
put it into a sharp hard turn the downside chine would dig in
tripping the boat and rolling it over. Could the hull handle more
weight, yes lots more. Could the hull handle more hp the 25, sure it
could and she would go straight ahead like a rocket, but don't turn
her sharp at speed.!!!! There was also a question about turning
radius. It depends on speed of course but I did a 360 turn at about
10 knts and she seemed to turn in a 200 feet diameter. This was a
windless day, wind really effects the Sneakeasy so she requires
added vigilance when approaching dock on a windy day.
Steve Bosquette
--- In bolger@y..., Fritz Funk <fritzf@a...> wrote:
> Chance,
>
> The limber holes Bolger designed are huge and do the opposite of
> of great ideas buried in the detail of Bolger's plans!
>
> --Fritz
I'm toying with www.chebacco.com, easier than yelling "It's called a
Chebacco!" at least twice every time I go sailing...
Chebacco!" at least twice every time I go sailing...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Hector" <bruce_hector@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 11:45 AM
Subject: [bolger] Bolger Boat Names
| Sinkeasy, I love it! Show's the kind of tounge in cheek sense of
| humour I strive for, and seldom hit. Although namimg my Micro "Riff-
| Raff" strikes me (and perhaps only I) as an inspiration. Imagine it
| moored at a strange club's dock. The race committee and comodore
| stroll past, staring at my unusual little boat, notice the name
| engraved and gilded on the transom, and know they have failed
| miserably.
|
| I only wish I'd thought of "Your Ad Here" first. Those flat panel
| sides cry out for it. Why I could rent billboard space to compensate
| for the marina charges!
|
| Any other great iconoclastic names out there?
|
| Bruce Hector and his tiny fleet:
|
| Nymph "Knotty Nymph" ,originally finished clear, then painted white
| with blue trim and given to my wife on her birthday and re-named "The
| Ada E"
| Diablo "Diabla", Spanish for "She Devil"
| Skimmer "Skip", double entendre , from the way it skips across the
| water riding on its runners and the English slang for a dumpster bin.
| Pirogue "Tipsy", because if you're not you will.
| Houseboat "Adagio", Italian for "to play slowly"
|
|
|
|
|
| Bolger rules!!!
| - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
| - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
| - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts and <snip> away
| - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA,
01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
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|
|
Chance,
The limber holes Bolger designed are huge and do the opposite of you what
were speculating. Water sluices very easily back to the stern, and they
are a great way to rinse out bilge gunk too. The limber holes (Bolger calls
them "drains") are 1 inch by 3 inches!! Bolger put a lot of careful
thought into the design. The plans are cheap, only $35 from Payson when I
last checked and you could support Mr. Bolger that way, plus save yourself
a lot of worrying about demons in the night. I'm concerned when I read
that newcomers to the list are picking up on idle speculation about flaws
in a design that a simple glance at the plans could resolve. There's a lot
of great ideas buried in the detail of Bolger's plans!
--Fritz
The limber holes Bolger designed are huge and do the opposite of you what
were speculating. Water sluices very easily back to the stern, and they
are a great way to rinse out bilge gunk too. The limber holes (Bolger calls
them "drains") are 1 inch by 3 inches!! Bolger put a lot of careful
thought into the design. The plans are cheap, only $35 from Payson when I
last checked and you could support Mr. Bolger that way, plus save yourself
a lot of worrying about demons in the night. I'm concerned when I read
that newcomers to the list are picking up on idle speculation about flaws
in a design that a simple glance at the plans could resolve. There's a lot
of great ideas buried in the detail of Bolger's plans!
--Fritz
> I only wish I'd thought of "Your Ad Here" first. Those flat panelHumm... on the 50ft sides of a boat like the Wyo, I wonder if I could get
> sides cry out for it. Why I could rent billboard space to compensate
> for the marina charges!
enough ad space to pay for the cruise. Get paid to wonder about in marinas,
shore lines, etc. (said tongue in check)
Bolger once commented on having nice seascapes painted on the sides of his
big sharpies.
Jeff
My Sneakeasy plans are at the office and I'm home cooking a big
Thanksgiving dinner today, but I believe each frame has a limber hole
cut a few inches away from the chine log, no?
Still with such a long flat run to the stern, it would be easy for
small ammounts of water to be trapped and pool in the corners. How do
our sneak owners handle this, or is it just not a problem? She does
appear to be a pretty sprayless, dry boat.
Bruce Hector, resting at the computer after wrestling with a 6.7 kilo
(14 pound) bird for the last 4 hours. Sausage, garlic and fresh herb
stuffing in the crop, onion/celery/bread and apple stuffed cavity,
fresh rosemary and thyme sprigs slipped under the breast skin, the
whole beast stuffed, trussed, rubbed with oil, sprinkled with fresh
ground pepper and sea salt, all while the stock pot bubbled with
veggies, spices, herbs, giblets and neck to make a killer gravy from.
Done while wishing Adagio was still in the water so I could have made
it afloat in the 1000 Islands alive with crimson leaves.
p.s. Canada has Thanksgiving earlier than our American cousins
because if we waited until mid-November all the turkeys would be
frozen solid. Happy Thanksgiving to all, whenever you celebrate it!
Thanksgiving dinner today, but I believe each frame has a limber hole
cut a few inches away from the chine log, no?
Still with such a long flat run to the stern, it would be easy for
small ammounts of water to be trapped and pool in the corners. How do
our sneak owners handle this, or is it just not a problem? She does
appear to be a pretty sprayless, dry boat.
Bruce Hector, resting at the computer after wrestling with a 6.7 kilo
(14 pound) bird for the last 4 hours. Sausage, garlic and fresh herb
stuffing in the crop, onion/celery/bread and apple stuffed cavity,
fresh rosemary and thyme sprigs slipped under the breast skin, the
whole beast stuffed, trussed, rubbed with oil, sprinkled with fresh
ground pepper and sea salt, all while the stock pot bubbled with
veggies, spices, herbs, giblets and neck to make a killer gravy from.
Done while wishing Adagio was still in the water so I could have made
it afloat in the 1000 Islands alive with crimson leaves.
p.s. Canada has Thanksgiving earlier than our American cousins
because if we waited until mid-November all the turkeys would be
frozen solid. Happy Thanksgiving to all, whenever you celebrate it!
Sinkeasy, I love it! Show's the kind of tounge in cheek sense of
humour I strive for, and seldom hit. Although namimg my Micro "Riff-
Raff" strikes me (and perhaps only I) as an inspiration. Imagine it
moored at a strange club's dock. The race committee and comodore
stroll past, staring at my unusual little boat, notice the name
engraved and gilded on the transom, and know they have failed
miserably.
I only wish I'd thought of "Your Ad Here" first. Those flat panel
sides cry out for it. Why I could rent billboard space to compensate
for the marina charges!
Any other great iconoclastic names out there?
Bruce Hector and his tiny fleet:
Nymph "Knotty Nymph" ,originally finished clear, then painted white
with blue trim and given to my wife on her birthday and re-named "The
Ada E"
Diablo "Diabla", Spanish for "She Devil"
Skimmer "Skip", double entendre , from the way it skips across the
water riding on its runners and the English slang for a dumpster bin.
Pirogue "Tipsy", because if you're not you will.
Houseboat "Adagio", Italian for "to play slowly"
humour I strive for, and seldom hit. Although namimg my Micro "Riff-
Raff" strikes me (and perhaps only I) as an inspiration. Imagine it
moored at a strange club's dock. The race committee and comodore
stroll past, staring at my unusual little boat, notice the name
engraved and gilded on the transom, and know they have failed
miserably.
I only wish I'd thought of "Your Ad Here" first. Those flat panel
sides cry out for it. Why I could rent billboard space to compensate
for the marina charges!
Any other great iconoclastic names out there?
Bruce Hector and his tiny fleet:
Nymph "Knotty Nymph" ,originally finished clear, then painted white
with blue trim and given to my wife on her birthday and re-named "The
Ada E"
Diablo "Diabla", Spanish for "She Devil"
Skimmer "Skip", double entendre , from the way it skips across the
water riding on its runners and the English slang for a dumpster bin.
Pirogue "Tipsy", because if you're not you will.
Houseboat "Adagio", Italian for "to play slowly"
Thats good information. The sides are scarfed together and go all the way back and form the sides of the Drake Tails. I like your idea of a modular building of the sections, but other than building up the frame, deck,windshield, and seats I don't believe that's feasible. And of course the problem is few people have a 30 foot long space to work in. Did you notice how the internal water was handled on the Sneak easy you were in? It appears as though the bulkheads form little water traps that prevent the water inside from going to the back of the boat where it can be pumped out. How do they handle that problem?
CCG
Lincoln Ross <lincolnr@...> wrote:Don't worry about stability unless you have passengers who like to
hike out. THe first thing you notice on getting in the boat is how
little it heels.
I think you should keep it to 26 feet and just build the nose
separately, attaching later. Or maybe do the back end that way? Isn't
the back almost like that already?
I think Bolger was mostly worried about people overpowering it and
then blaming the resultant problems on him!
It does pound some when there are waves. Maybe it would pound a lot in
bigger ones, but I've only been aboard one in pretty moderate
conditions.
CCG
Lincoln Ross <lincolnr@...> wrote:Don't worry about stability unless you have passengers who like to
hike out. THe first thing you notice on getting in the boat is how
little it heels.
I think you should keep it to 26 feet and just build the nose
separately, attaching later. Or maybe do the back end that way? Isn't
the back almost like that already?
I think Bolger was mostly worried about people overpowering it and
then blaming the resultant problems on him!
It does pound some when there are waves. Maybe it would pound a lot in
bigger ones, but I've only been aboard one in pretty moderate
conditions.
--- In bolger@y..., "struelpeter" <daveb@p...> wrote:
> what do you consider high speeds? is this a speed that can be
reached
> with the recomended hp? I have a UH hover that could be very
> dangerous at speed depending on actions the driver chooses to make,,
> another words operating within design parameters is safer.
> I prefer the flat bottom version for the simplicity and
> aesthetics,,for me it would be nice if it was only 23 foot because
of
> my building area limitations,,and wider of course for stability and
> passenger room but for now I think I will stick to the plans and
play
> off others past experience
>
> David Bosworth
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Of course, you are absolutely right. I only refer to it as Sneakeasy as a reference point for the handful of members on the site who are helping me with aspect ratio factors and overall bottom designs, of which I know nothing. I must admit however I am reluctant to give up the name because I have borrowed so much from its original designer. Mr. Bolger himself said he is irritated by people who do not give him credit for his basic designs. As a holder of several copyrights,patents and trademarks myself I can appreciate his concerns.
Nevertheless, my "Sneakeasy" has always had its own name from its inception. The first time my wife saw the original sketches on the drawing board she has referred to it as " The Sinkeasy".
CCG
Bruce Hector <bruce_hector@...> wrote:Or continue with your plans, say it is "inspired" by PCB's Sneakeasy
and give it a name of your own. We're all inspired by his designs,
but when you change one, it's no longer the namesake of the
inspiration. Even many of Phils designs must be inspired by something
he's seen, read or heard of.
I, and probably many here, are interested to see what you come up
with, and how she works. But it won't be a Sneakeasy unless you build
one with no significant changes from the plans. Some of us are
obviously more irked than others that you persist with the Sneakeasy
name. I'm only moderately irked. But how about showing your
inividuality and creativity by nameing your Sneak inspired design
with a name all your own?
Wide-easy? Easywide? Sneaky-Broad-Arsed-Boat? Broadarrow?
Straightarrow? Lake Runner? Baby Rum Runner-2? The possibilities are
endless.
Just my thoughts.
Bruce Hector
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Nevertheless, my "Sneakeasy" has always had its own name from its inception. The first time my wife saw the original sketches on the drawing board she has referred to it as " The Sinkeasy".
CCG
Bruce Hector <bruce_hector@...> wrote:Or continue with your plans, say it is "inspired" by PCB's Sneakeasy
and give it a name of your own. We're all inspired by his designs,
but when you change one, it's no longer the namesake of the
inspiration. Even many of Phils designs must be inspired by something
he's seen, read or heard of.
I, and probably many here, are interested to see what you come up
with, and how she works. But it won't be a Sneakeasy unless you build
one with no significant changes from the plans. Some of us are
obviously more irked than others that you persist with the Sneakeasy
name. I'm only moderately irked. But how about showing your
inividuality and creativity by nameing your Sneak inspired design
with a name all your own?
Wide-easy? Easywide? Sneaky-Broad-Arsed-Boat? Broadarrow?
Straightarrow? Lake Runner? Baby Rum Runner-2? The possibilities are
endless.
Just my thoughts.
Bruce Hector
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Like many people here I am taken by the retro design and Beauty of the Sneakeasy. Speed is not my goal. I am looking at a broader beam and an inboard look through the use of a motor well. Both demad hull design changes. I am under no illusion that my finished design will be a Sneakeasy. The others on this site who have installed inboard electric motors and are designing inboard combustion engine's for this craft do so knowing their variants change the overall appearance and performance of the original design specifications. One individual is installing a rotary engine. Automotive designers,Raymond Lowey and Gordon Buehrig were business partners of mine. Without exception each would have changed every design they made. The Duesenberg hoods would have been longer and the Cord would have had retractable runningboards. Long narrow power boats did not start and will not end with either Mr. Bolger or me. Mr.Bolger would think there was no need to forgive me for changing his design. His initial concept moved a land locked Hoosier to the drawing board to expand on his truly artistic floating sculpture. That's what Mr. Bolger does for a living --he moves men's souls. And as far as my adaptations to his original designs are concerned, Picasso said it best "Good artists borrow, Great artists steal"
CCG
dbaldnz <oink@...> wrote:Chance, it seems to me you have started with Bolgers Sneakeasy, and
increased the beam by nearly 50%, for high speed, then say it shows
what a forgiving design it is, that speaks well of PCB. I wonder if
he would forgive you?.
Sneakeasy was designed for modest power and speed, allowing an
extremely simple design which would not reveal its deficiencies when
used as designed. Your boat no longer resembles a Sneakeasy in plan
or purpose. Why not build to one of the thousands of purpose
designed high speed designs?
DonB
CCG
dbaldnz <oink@...> wrote:Chance, it seems to me you have started with Bolgers Sneakeasy, and
increased the beam by nearly 50%, for high speed, then say it shows
what a forgiving design it is, that speaks well of PCB. I wonder if
he would forgive you?.
Sneakeasy was designed for modest power and speed, allowing an
extremely simple design which would not reveal its deficiencies when
used as designed. Your boat no longer resembles a Sneakeasy in plan
or purpose. Why not build to one of the thousands of purpose
designed high speed designs?
DonB
--- In bolger@y..., Chance Curtis <sneakeasy2002@y...> wrote:
>
> There are 2 version of the Sneakeasy, with pics on web of both
types. It is not safe at high speeds. Several here are looking at
adaptations of the concept. One guy wants an inboard and there is
already an electric one in the water. I am designing one 6 ft wide
with a motorwell, with a faster bottom. Its a very forgiving design
that speaks well of PCB.
> CCG
> struelpeter <daveb@p...> wrote:Fritz
>
> Thanks for the answers that you were able to give,, a couple of
those
> questions are kind of like guessing how long it takes some one you
> don't know to tie there shoes,, but I had to ask, oh well.......
>
> David Bosworth
>
> --- In bolger@y..., Fritz Funk <fritzf@a...> wrote:
> > At 10:07 AM 10/10/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> > >Hello folks
> > >
> > >I have a few questions about bolger plan sets, or are they
single
> sheet?
> > Two sheets.
> >
> > >do they include a materials list ? No.
> > >have they been found to be accurate? Yes - couple minor
> anomalies, but no
> > big deal.
> > >where is the best place to purchase? PBF or Payson
> > >
> > >as far as the sneakeasy goes, how many boat lengths does it
take
> to tun
> > her 180 deg.?
> > If its a tight spot, just pretend its an inboard.
> >
> > >what would be an aprox. weight BUILT TO PLANS? 600 lbs
> >
> > >is there an aprox. build time for an experienced builder?
> Depends....
> > >aprox cost of build? Depends....
> > >how forgiving are they for weight distribution? Very.
> >
> > --Fritz
>
>
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Although I have not seen it yet , there is a shorter version of the sneakeasy in the launching pages of the june 2002 issue of Wooden Boat. I have been told if you make it wider the bow will pitch and it will become a submarine. It would be nice to talk to the owner of the new design .
CCG
struelpeter <daveb@...> wrote:what do you consider high speeds? is this a speed that can be reached
with the recomended hp? I have a UH hover that could be very
dangerous at speed depending on actions the driver chooses to make,,
another words operating within design parameters is safer.
I prefer the flat bottom version for the simplicity and
aesthetics,,for me it would be nice if it was only 23 foot because of
my building area limitations,,and wider of course for stability and
passenger room but for now I think I will stick to the plans and play
off others past experience
David Bosworth
CCG
struelpeter <daveb@...> wrote:what do you consider high speeds? is this a speed that can be reached
with the recomended hp? I have a UH hover that could be very
dangerous at speed depending on actions the driver chooses to make,,
another words operating within design parameters is safer.
I prefer the flat bottom version for the simplicity and
aesthetics,,for me it would be nice if it was only 23 foot because of
my building area limitations,,and wider of course for stability and
passenger room but for now I think I will stick to the plans and play
off others past experience
David Bosworth
--- In bolger@y..., Chance Curtis <sneakeasy2002@y...> wrote:
>
> There are 2 version of the Sneakeasy, with pics on web of both
types. It is not safe at high speeds. Several here are looking at
adaptations of the concept. One guy wants an inboard and there is
already an electric one in the water. I am designing one 6 ft wide
with a motorwell, with a faster bottom. Its a very forgiving design
that speaks well of PCB.
> CCG
> struelpeter <daveb@p...> wrote:Fritz
>
> Thanks for the answers that you were able to give,, a couple of
those
> questions are kind of like guessing how long it takes some one you
> don't know to tie there shoes,, but I had to ask, oh well.......
>
> David Bosworth
>
>
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Absolutely Bruce :)
DonB
DonB
--- In bolger@y..., "Bruce Hector" <bruce_hector@h...> wrote:
> Or continue with your plans, say it is "inspired" by PCB's
Sneakeasy
> and give it a name of your own. We're all inspired by his designs,
> but when you change one, it's no longer the namesake of the
> inspiration. Even many of Phils designs must be inspired by
something
> he's seen, read or heard of.
>
> I, and probably many here, are interested to see what you come up
> with, and how she works. But it won't be a Sneakeasy unless you
build
> one with no significant changes from the plans. Some of us are
> obviously more irked than others that you persist with the
Sneakeasy
> name. I'm only moderately irked. But how about showing your
> inividuality and creativity by nameing your Sneak inspired design
> with a name all your own?
>
> Wide-easy? Easywide? Sneaky-Broad-Arsed-Boat? Broadarrow?
> Straightarrow? Lake Runner? Baby Rum Runner-2? The possibilities
are
> endless.
>
> Just my thoughts.
> Bruce Hector
Bravo, you said it all!
Do your own thing, take pride in that you had a great design to inspire you
own creation.
Jeff
Do your own thing, take pride in that you had a great design to inspire you
own creation.
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Hector" <bruce_hector@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 1:28 PM
Subject: [bolger] Re: sneakeasy and new member
> Or continue with your plans, say it is "inspired" by PCB's Sneakeasy
> and give it a name of your own. We're all inspired by his designs,
> but when you change one, it's no longer the namesake of the
> inspiration. Even many of Phils designs must be inspired by something
> he's seen, read or heard of.
>
> I, and probably many here, are interested to see what you come up
> with, and how she works. But it won't be a Sneakeasy unless you build
> one with no significant changes from the plans. Some of us are
> obviously more irked than others that you persist with the Sneakeasy
> name. I'm only moderately irked. But how about showing your
> inividuality and creativity by nameing your Sneak inspired design
> with a name all your own?
>
> Wide-easy? Easywide? Sneaky-Broad-Arsed-Boat? Broadarrow?
> Straightarrow? Lake Runner? Baby Rum Runner-2? The possibilities are
> endless.
>
> Just my thoughts.
> Bruce Hector
>
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
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Don't worry about stability unless you have passengers who like to
hike out. THe first thing you notice on getting in the boat is how
little it heels.
I think you should keep it to 26 feet and just build the nose
separately, attaching later. Or maybe do the back end that way? Isn't
the back almost like that already?
I think Bolger was mostly worried about people overpowering it and
then blaming the resultant problems on him!
It does pound some when there are waves. Maybe it would pound a lot in
bigger ones, but I've only been aboard one in pretty moderate
conditions.
hike out. THe first thing you notice on getting in the boat is how
little it heels.
I think you should keep it to 26 feet and just build the nose
separately, attaching later. Or maybe do the back end that way? Isn't
the back almost like that already?
I think Bolger was mostly worried about people overpowering it and
then blaming the resultant problems on him!
It does pound some when there are waves. Maybe it would pound a lot in
bigger ones, but I've only been aboard one in pretty moderate
conditions.
--- In bolger@y..., "struelpeter" <daveb@p...> wrote:
> what do you consider high speeds? is this a speed that can be
reached
> with the recomended hp? I have a UH hover that could be very
> dangerous at speed depending on actions the driver chooses to make,,
> another words operating within design parameters is safer.
> I prefer the flat bottom version for the simplicity and
> aesthetics,,for me it would be nice if it was only 23 foot because
of
> my building area limitations,,and wider of course for stability and
> passenger room but for now I think I will stick to the plans and
play
> off others past experience
>
> David Bosworth
snip
Or continue with your plans, say it is "inspired" by PCB's Sneakeasy
and give it a name of your own. We're all inspired by his designs,
but when you change one, it's no longer the namesake of the
inspiration. Even many of Phils designs must be inspired by something
he's seen, read or heard of.
I, and probably many here, are interested to see what you come up
with, and how she works. But it won't be a Sneakeasy unless you build
one with no significant changes from the plans. Some of us are
obviously more irked than others that you persist with the Sneakeasy
name. I'm only moderately irked. But how about showing your
inividuality and creativity by nameing your Sneak inspired design
with a name all your own?
Wide-easy? Easywide? Sneaky-Broad-Arsed-Boat? Broadarrow?
Straightarrow? Lake Runner? Baby Rum Runner-2? The possibilities are
endless.
Just my thoughts.
Bruce Hector
and give it a name of your own. We're all inspired by his designs,
but when you change one, it's no longer the namesake of the
inspiration. Even many of Phils designs must be inspired by something
he's seen, read or heard of.
I, and probably many here, are interested to see what you come up
with, and how she works. But it won't be a Sneakeasy unless you build
one with no significant changes from the plans. Some of us are
obviously more irked than others that you persist with the Sneakeasy
name. I'm only moderately irked. But how about showing your
inividuality and creativity by nameing your Sneak inspired design
with a name all your own?
Wide-easy? Easywide? Sneaky-Broad-Arsed-Boat? Broadarrow?
Straightarrow? Lake Runner? Baby Rum Runner-2? The possibilities are
endless.
Just my thoughts.
Bruce Hector
Chance, it seems to me you have started with Bolgers Sneakeasy, and
increased the beam by nearly 50%, for high speed, then say it shows
what a forgiving design it is, that speaks well of PCB. I wonder if
he would forgive you?.
Sneakeasy was designed for modest power and speed, allowing an
extremely simple design which would not reveal its deficiencies when
used as designed. Your boat no longer resembles a Sneakeasy in plan
or purpose. Why not build to one of the thousands of purpose
designed high speed designs?
DonB
increased the beam by nearly 50%, for high speed, then say it shows
what a forgiving design it is, that speaks well of PCB. I wonder if
he would forgive you?.
Sneakeasy was designed for modest power and speed, allowing an
extremely simple design which would not reveal its deficiencies when
used as designed. Your boat no longer resembles a Sneakeasy in plan
or purpose. Why not build to one of the thousands of purpose
designed high speed designs?
DonB
--- In bolger@y..., Chance Curtis <sneakeasy2002@y...> wrote:
>
> There are 2 version of the Sneakeasy, with pics on web of both
types. It is not safe at high speeds. Several here are looking at
adaptations of the concept. One guy wants an inboard and there is
already an electric one in the water. I am designing one 6 ft wide
with a motorwell, with a faster bottom. Its a very forgiving design
that speaks well of PCB.
> CCG
> struelpeter <daveb@p...> wrote:Fritz
>
> Thanks for the answers that you were able to give,, a couple of
those
> questions are kind of like guessing how long it takes some one you
> don't know to tie there shoes,, but I had to ask, oh well.......
>
> David Bosworth
>
> --- In bolger@y..., Fritz Funk <fritzf@a...> wrote:
> > At 10:07 AM 10/10/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> > >Hello folks
> > >
> > >I have a few questions about bolger plan sets, or are they
single
> sheet?
> > Two sheets.
> >
> > >do they include a materials list ? No.
> > >have they been found to be accurate? Yes - couple minor
> anomalies, but no
> > big deal.
> > >where is the best place to purchase? PBF or Payson
> > >
> > >as far as the sneakeasy goes, how many boat lengths does it
take
> to tun
> > her 180 deg.?
> > If its a tight spot, just pretend its an inboard.
> >
> > >what would be an aprox. weight BUILT TO PLANS? 600 lbs
> >
> > >is there an aprox. build time for an experienced builder?
> Depends....
> > >aprox cost of build? Depends....
> > >how forgiving are they for weight distribution? Very.
> >
> > --Fritz
>
>
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what do you consider high speeds? is this a speed that can be reached
with the recomended hp? I have a UH hover that could be very
dangerous at speed depending on actions the driver chooses to make,,
another words operating within design parameters is safer.
I prefer the flat bottom version for the simplicity and
aesthetics,,for me it would be nice if it was only 23 foot because of
my building area limitations,,and wider of course for stability and
passenger room but for now I think I will stick to the plans and play
off others past experience
David Bosworth
with the recomended hp? I have a UH hover that could be very
dangerous at speed depending on actions the driver chooses to make,,
another words operating within design parameters is safer.
I prefer the flat bottom version for the simplicity and
aesthetics,,for me it would be nice if it was only 23 foot because of
my building area limitations,,and wider of course for stability and
passenger room but for now I think I will stick to the plans and play
off others past experience
David Bosworth
--- In bolger@y..., Chance Curtis <sneakeasy2002@y...> wrote:
>
> There are 2 version of the Sneakeasy, with pics on web of both
types. It is not safe at high speeds. Several here are looking at
adaptations of the concept. One guy wants an inboard and there is
already an electric one in the water. I am designing one 6 ft wide
with a motorwell, with a faster bottom. Its a very forgiving design
that speaks well of PCB.
> CCG
> struelpeter <daveb@p...> wrote:Fritz
>
> Thanks for the answers that you were able to give,, a couple of
those
> questions are kind of like guessing how long it takes some one you
> don't know to tie there shoes,, but I had to ask, oh well.......
>
> David Bosworth
>
>
There are 2 version of the Sneakeasy, with pics on web of both types. It is not safe at high speeds. Several here are looking at adaptations of the concept. One guy wants an inboard and there is already an electric one in the water. I am designing one 6 ft wide with a motorwell, with a faster bottom. Its a very forgiving design that speaks well of PCB.
CCG
struelpeter <daveb@...> wrote:Fritz
Thanks for the answers that you were able to give,, a couple of those
questions are kind of like guessing how long it takes some one you
don't know to tie there shoes,, but I had to ask, oh well.......
David Bosworth
CCG
struelpeter <daveb@...> wrote:Fritz
Thanks for the answers that you were able to give,, a couple of those
questions are kind of like guessing how long it takes some one you
don't know to tie there shoes,, but I had to ask, oh well.......
David Bosworth
--- In bolger@y..., Fritz Funk <fritzf@a...> wrote:
> At 10:07 AM 10/10/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >Hello folks
> >
> >I have a few questions about bolger plan sets, or are they single
sheet?
> Two sheets.
>
> >do they include a materials list ? No.
> >have they been found to be accurate? Yes - couple minor
anomalies, but no
> big deal.
> >where is the best place to purchase? PBF or Payson
> >
> >as far as the sneakeasy goes, how many boat lengths does it take
to tun
> her 180 deg.?
> If its a tight spot, just pretend its an inboard.
>
> >what would be an aprox. weight BUILT TO PLANS? 600 lbs
>
> >is there an aprox. build time for an experienced builder?
Depends....
> >aprox cost of build? Depends....
> >how forgiving are they for weight distribution? Very.
>
> --Fritz
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Fritz
Thanks for the answers that you were able to give,, a couple of those
questions are kind of like guessing how long it takes some one you
don't know to tie there shoes,, but I had to ask, oh well.......
David Bosworth
Thanks for the answers that you were able to give,, a couple of those
questions are kind of like guessing how long it takes some one you
don't know to tie there shoes,, but I had to ask, oh well.......
David Bosworth
--- In bolger@y..., Fritz Funk <fritzf@a...> wrote:
> At 10:07 AM 10/10/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >Hello folks
> >
> >I have a few questions about bolger plan sets, or are they single
sheet?
> Two sheets.
>
> >do they include a materials list ? No.
> >have they been found to be accurate? Yes - couple minor
anomalies, but no
> big deal.
> >where is the best place to purchase? PBF or Payson
> >
> >as far as the sneakeasy goes, how many boat lengths does it take
to tun
> her 180 deg.?
> If its a tight spot, just pretend its an inboard.
>
> >what would be an aprox. weight BUILT TO PLANS? 600 lbs
>
> >is there an aprox. build time for an experienced builder?
Depends....
> >aprox cost of build? Depends....
> >how forgiving are they for weight distribution? Very.
>
> --Fritz
At 10:07 AM 10/10/2002 -0700, you wrote:
If its a tight spot, just pretend its an inboard.
>Hello folksTwo sheets.
>
>I have a few questions about bolger plan sets, or are they single sheet?
>do they include a materials list ? No.big deal.
>have they been found to be accurate? Yes - couple minor anomalies, but no
>where is the best place to purchase? PBF or Paysonher 180 deg.?
>
>as far as the sneakeasy goes, how many boat lengths does it take to tun
If its a tight spot, just pretend its an inboard.
>what would be an aprox. weight BUILT TO PLANS? 600 lbs--Fritz
>is there an aprox. build time for an experienced builder? Depends....
>aprox cost of build? Depends....
>how forgiving are they for weight distribution? Very.
Hello folks
Spent the better part of a sick day last week surfin the web and ran across the sneakeasy, WOW,, I think I must have it!! by the way I am a self diagnosed creative compulsive,,, not that thats a bad thing but it has lead to a yard full of boats and hovercraft,, and cars left out in the weather!! ( have the best wife in the world)
I have a few questions about bolger plan sets, or are they single sheet?
do they include a materials list ?
have they been found to be accurate?
where is the best place to purchase?
as far as the sneakeasy goes, how many boat lengths does it take to tun her 180 deg.?
what would be an aprox. weight BUILT TO PLANS? w/o eng.
is there an aprox. build time for an experienced builder?
aprox cost of build?
how forgiving are they for weight distribution?
any one building this boat in the Seatle area? I am in the Monroe Wa. area
yes I have gone through the entire archive on sneakeasy,, very good reading
David Bosworth
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Spent the better part of a sick day last week surfin the web and ran across the sneakeasy, WOW,, I think I must have it!! by the way I am a self diagnosed creative compulsive,,, not that thats a bad thing but it has lead to a yard full of boats and hovercraft,, and cars left out in the weather!! ( have the best wife in the world)
I have a few questions about bolger plan sets, or are they single sheet?
do they include a materials list ?
have they been found to be accurate?
where is the best place to purchase?
as far as the sneakeasy goes, how many boat lengths does it take to tun her 180 deg.?
what would be an aprox. weight BUILT TO PLANS? w/o eng.
is there an aprox. build time for an experienced builder?
aprox cost of build?
how forgiving are they for weight distribution?
any one building this boat in the Seatle area? I am in the Monroe Wa. area
yes I have gone through the entire archive on sneakeasy,, very good reading
David Bosworth
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