Re: [bolger] rudder end plate question
Howdy
to yield lift equivalent to the same increase in wing span as the height of
the wing tip.
Good Luck
See Ya
Have Fun
Bruce
http://myweb.cableone.net/bcanderson/
> ----- Original Message -----I don't know about hydrodynamics, but in aerodynamics, wintips are supposed
> From: "john bartlett" <captjbturtle@...>
> To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:26 PM
> Subject: [bolger] rudder end plate question
> >
> > -dear group. i am modifying the rudder on my lightning
> > for shallow draft and hear pcb uses end plates on the
> > rudders on some of his designs for this purpose. can
> > anybody tell me how much the end plates protrude past
> > the rudder, thanks john.--bolger@yahoogroups.com
to yield lift equivalent to the same increase in wing span as the height of
the wing tip.
Good Luck
See Ya
Have Fun
Bruce
http://myweb.cableone.net/bcanderson/
look at the rudder pictures at www.chebacco.com
about 4-6 inches is usual
about 4-6 inches is usual
----- Original Message -----
From: "john bartlett" <captjbturtle@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:26 PM
Subject: [bolger] rudder end plate question
>
> -dear group. i am modifying the rudder on my lightning
> for shallow draft and hear pcb uses end plates on the
> rudders on some of his designs for this purpose. can
> anybody tell me how much the end plates protrude past
> the rudder, thanks john.--bolger@yahoogroups.com
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> > 1. Re: Micro Ocean Crossing?
> > From: "pauldayau"
> > <wattleweedooseeds@...>
> > 2. Re: # 653 Tahiti - question on two elbows
> > each under their hulls
> > From: "CJ" <cj7_579@...>
> > 3. Re: Re: Micro Ocean Crossing?
> > From: "Richard Spelling"
> > <richard@...>
> > 4. Re: Re: # 653 Tahiti - question on two
> > elbows each under their hulls
> > From: "Richard Spelling"
> > <richard@...>
> > 5. Re: Peter - Windermere
> > From: "Peter Lenihan"
> > <ellengaest@...>
> > 6. Re: Peter - Windermere
> > From: "Bjorn Harbo" <bharbo@...>
> > 7. Re: Micro Ocean Crossing?
> > From: "Nels" <arvent@...>
> > 8. Re: Peter - Windermere
> > From: "rsmboatbuilder" <isdkelly@...>
> > 9. Re: Micro Ocean Crossing?
> > From: "pvanderwaart"
> > <pvanderw@...>
> > 10. Re: Peter - Windermere
> > From: "Peter Lenihan"
> > <ellengaest@...>
> > 11. Re: Micro Ocean Crossing?
> > From: "Peter Lenihan"
> > <ellengaest@...>
> > 12. Re: Micro Ocean Crossing?
> > From: "Nels" <arvent@...>
> > 13. Re: Peter - Windermere
> > From: "Bjorn Harbo" <bharbo@...>
> > 14. Re: Re: Micro Ocean Crossing?
> > From: "jeff"
> > <boatbuilding@...>
> > 15. Plywood for gypsy
> > From: "Stan" <stankellar@...>
> > 16. Re: Sails
> > From: "sanmi" <sanmi@...>
> > 17. Re: Plywood for gypsy
> > From: "jeff"
> > <boatbuilding@...>
> > 18. Re: Plywood for gypsy
> > From: "rsmboatbuilder" <isdkelly@...>
> > 19. Silica filler on sale at West Marine
> > From: "Justin Meddock"
> > <jmeddock@...>
> > 20. Plans and Books for Sale
> > From: "pseudodion42"
> > <pseudodion3@...>
> > 21. Brighthread
> > From: "sctree" <sctree@...>
> > 22. Brightthread
> > From: "sctree" <sctree@...>
> > 23. Re: Micro Ocean Crossing?
> > From: "dbaldnz" <oink@...>
> > 24. Re: Micro Ocean Crossing?
> > From: "dbaldnz" <oink@...>
> > 25. Re: Brightthread
> > From: "rsmboatbuilder" <isdkelly@...>
> >
> >
> >
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 12:16:02 -0000
> > From: "pauldayau" <wattleweedooseeds@...>
> > Subject: Re: Micro Ocean Crossing?
> >
> > .
> > > In a big storm, I would feel safer in port. You
> > are welcome to try
> > > it, come down and borrow mine :)
> > > DonB
> > >
> > >
> > actually Don I was looking at a way to save money
> > on the ferry to
> > Hobart next year Can you spare the micro?
> > With good luck and carefull driving we hope to tow
> > the folding
> > schooner to hobart for the Wooden boat festival
> > inMarch. the lure of
> > 400+ boats is just to great.
> > For the unknowing foriegners thats a 3250 km drive
> > with an overnight
> > ferry crossing thrown in.
> > Thats one way. at the end is 4 days of wooden ,
> > particularly home
> > built boats in a harbour full of resteraunts.
> > If theres anybody on the list thats already there ,
> > please say hello.
> > oh and do have a space where we can put down some
> > swags?
> > Cheers paul
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 12:48:46 -0000
> > From: "CJ" <cj7_579@...>
> > Subject: Re: # 653 Tahiti - question on two elbows
> > each under their hulls
> >
> > Thanks Frank, do you remember the name or model of
> > the sailing
> > dinghy in MAIB?
> >
> > CJ
> >
> >
> > --- In bolger@y..., "sanmi" <sanmi@y...> wrote:
> > > They published a writeup on Tahiti's sailing
> > dinghy in MAIB
> > recently,
> > > maybe last year or the year before. I seem to
> > remember seeing a
> > > picture of the elbow there.
> > >
> > > Frank San Miguel
> > > Wilmington, DE
> > >
> > > --- In bolger@y..., "CJ" <cj7_579@y...> wrote:
> > > > # 653 Tahiti - question on two elbows each under
> > their hulls
> > > >
> > > > Bolger on Design
> > > > Two Ocean Passagemakers - Part 3
> > > > On with our discussion of Design :
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Small Boats/Lifeboat: Reliably leveled,
> > launched, and retrieved
> > > > by
> > > > two elbows each under their hulls, they're
> > carried high enough
> > and
> > > > can be well enough locked in position to be at
> > little risk from
> > sea
> > > > action, and still be launched single-handedly at
> > moment's notice
> > > > just using gravity, better than on-deck
> > solutions ever can be.
> > > >
> > > > The drawings don't give enough detail on these
> > elbows. Does
> > anyone
> > > > have a better picture or discription of this
> > setup?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > CJ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> ________________________________________________________________________
> >
> ________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 08:44:38 -0500
> > From: "Richard Spelling" <richard@...>
> > Subject: Re: Re: Micro Ocean Crossing?
> >
> > Put down some swags? Same as "crash for the night"?
> > What is the origin of the saying?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "pauldayau" <wattleweedooseeds@...>
> > To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 7:16 AM
> >
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-dear group. i am modifying the rudder on my lightning
for shallow draft and hear pcb uses end plates on the
rudders on some of his designs for this purpose. can
anybody tell me how much the end plates protrude past
the rudder, thanks john.--bolger@yahoogroups.com
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for shallow draft and hear pcb uses end plates on the
rudders on some of his designs for this purpose. can
anybody tell me how much the end plates protrude past
the rudder, thanks john.--bolger@yahoogroups.com
wrote:
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> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or
> flogging dead horses
> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed,
> thanks, Fred' posts
> - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
> and <snip> away
> - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box
> 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
> - Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> - Open discussion:
>bolger_coffee_lounge-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
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>________________________________________________________________________
> There are 25 messages in this issue.
>
> Topics in this digest:
>
> 1. Re: Micro Ocean Crossing?
> From: "pauldayau"
> <wattleweedooseeds@...>
> 2. Re: # 653 Tahiti - question on two elbows
> each under their hulls
> From: "CJ" <cj7_579@...>
> 3. Re: Re: Micro Ocean Crossing?
> From: "Richard Spelling"
> <richard@...>
> 4. Re: Re: # 653 Tahiti - question on two
> elbows each under their hulls
> From: "Richard Spelling"
> <richard@...>
> 5. Re: Peter - Windermere
> From: "Peter Lenihan"
> <ellengaest@...>
> 6. Re: Peter - Windermere
> From: "Bjorn Harbo" <bharbo@...>
> 7. Re: Micro Ocean Crossing?
> From: "Nels" <arvent@...>
> 8. Re: Peter - Windermere
> From: "rsmboatbuilder" <isdkelly@...>
> 9. Re: Micro Ocean Crossing?
> From: "pvanderwaart"
> <pvanderw@...>
> 10. Re: Peter - Windermere
> From: "Peter Lenihan"
> <ellengaest@...>
> 11. Re: Micro Ocean Crossing?
> From: "Peter Lenihan"
> <ellengaest@...>
> 12. Re: Micro Ocean Crossing?
> From: "Nels" <arvent@...>
> 13. Re: Peter - Windermere
> From: "Bjorn Harbo" <bharbo@...>
> 14. Re: Re: Micro Ocean Crossing?
> From: "jeff"
> <boatbuilding@...>
> 15. Plywood for gypsy
> From: "Stan" <stankellar@...>
> 16. Re: Sails
> From: "sanmi" <sanmi@...>
> 17. Re: Plywood for gypsy
> From: "jeff"
> <boatbuilding@...>
> 18. Re: Plywood for gypsy
> From: "rsmboatbuilder" <isdkelly@...>
> 19. Silica filler on sale at West Marine
> From: "Justin Meddock"
> <jmeddock@...>
> 20. Plans and Books for Sale
> From: "pseudodion42"
> <pseudodion3@...>
> 21. Brighthread
> From: "sctree" <sctree@...>
> 22. Brightthread
> From: "sctree" <sctree@...>
> 23. Re: Micro Ocean Crossing?
> From: "dbaldnz" <oink@...>
> 24. Re: Micro Ocean Crossing?
> From: "dbaldnz" <oink@...>
> 25. Re: Brightthread
> From: "rsmboatbuilder" <isdkelly@...>
>
>
>
>________________________________________________________________________
>________________________________________________________________________
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 12:16:02 -0000
> From: "pauldayau" <wattleweedooseeds@...>
> Subject: Re: Micro Ocean Crossing?
>
> .
> > In a big storm, I would feel safer in port. You
> are welcome to try
> > it, come down and borrow mine :)
> > DonB
> >
> >
> actually Don I was looking at a way to save money
> on the ferry to
> Hobart next year Can you spare the micro?
> With good luck and carefull driving we hope to tow
> the folding
> schooner to hobart for the Wooden boat festival
> inMarch. the lure of
> 400+ boats is just to great.
> For the unknowing foriegners thats a 3250 km drive
> with an overnight
> ferry crossing thrown in.
> Thats one way. at the end is 4 days of wooden ,
> particularly home
> built boats in a harbour full of resteraunts.
> If theres anybody on the list thats already there ,
> please say hello.
> oh and do have a space where we can put down some
> swags?
> Cheers paul
>
>
>
>
>________________________________________________________________________
>________________________________________________________________________
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 12:48:46 -0000
> From: "CJ" <cj7_579@...>
> Subject: Re: # 653 Tahiti - question on two elbows
> each under their hulls
>
> Thanks Frank, do you remember the name or model of
> the sailing
> dinghy in MAIB?
>
> CJ
>
>
> --- In bolger@y..., "sanmi" <sanmi@y...> wrote:
> > They published a writeup on Tahiti's sailing
> dinghy in MAIB
> recently,
> > maybe last year or the year before. I seem to
> remember seeing a
> > picture of the elbow there.
> >
> > Frank San Miguel
> > Wilmington, DE
> >
> > --- In bolger@y..., "CJ" <cj7_579@y...> wrote:
> > > # 653 Tahiti - question on two elbows each under
> their hulls
> > >
> > > Bolger on Design
> > > Two Ocean Passagemakers - Part 3
> > > On with our discussion of Design :
> > >
> > >
> > > Small Boats/Lifeboat: Reliably leveled,
> launched, and re�trieved
> > > by
> > > two elbows each under their hulls, they're
> carried high enough
> and
> > > can be well enough locked in position to be at
> little risk from
> sea
> > > action, and still be launched single-handedly at
> moment's notice
> > > just us�ing gravity, better than on-deck
> solutions ever can be.
> > >
> > > The drawings don't give enough detail on these
> elbows. Does
> anyone
> > > have a better picture or discription of this
> setup?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > CJ
>
>
>
>
>________________________________________________________________________
>=== message truncated ===
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 08:44:38 -0500
> From: "Richard Spelling" <richard@...>
> Subject: Re: Re: Micro Ocean Crossing?
>
> Put down some swags? Same as "crash for the night"?
> What is the origin of the saying?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "pauldayau" <wattleweedooseeds@...>
> To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 7:16 AM
>
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