Re: Name these Dory's
Thank you for the help.
Mike C
Mike C
--- In bolger@y..., jhkohnen@b... wrote:
> The Dory Book by John Gardner is the best source for how to build
> traditional dories. I think it's still in print, from Int'l Marine
or Mystic
> Seaport. The yellow banks dory in the picture was built from an
article in
> an old, old Wooden Boat about building a Strawberry Banke dory.
>
>http://www.internationalmarine.com/
>
>http://www.mysticseaport.org/
>
> Strawberry Banke
> 603-433-1100
> Portsmouth, NH 03801
> Cut Copper Clench Nails
> Mary Loring
>
> On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 23:06:40 -0000, Mike wrote:
> > Those are some great looking boats.I want one of those in the worst
> > way.I really need to learn how to build boats with the plank
> > sides.Does anybody know any good books on how to build with that
> > method? I am going to start with a plywood sided dory and then try
> > building one the traditional way.I cant wait until my new shop is
> > done.
> >
> >>http://www.boat-links.com/images/Dories-1.jpg
> >>
> >>http://www.boat-links.com/images/Dories-2.jpg
>
> --
> John <jkohnen@b...>
>http://www.boat-links.com/
> The only way to keep your health is to eat what you don't want,
drink what
> you don't like, and do what you'd rather not. <Mark Twain>
> The Dory Book by John Gardner is the best source for how to buildI was going to suggest Gardner's books too, but will go farther than
> traditional dories.
the above statement to say that he wrote several boats and not just
about dories: Building Classic Small Craft, Classic Small Craft You
Can Build, Wooden Boats To Build and Use.
Of course, if you compare boats from different designers, you will
find a lot of difference in the details, even when the finished
product is more or less comparable.
Peter
The Dory Book by John Gardner is the best source for how to build
traditional dories. I think it's still in print, from Int'l Marine or Mystic
Seaport. The yellow banks dory in the picture was built from an article in
an old, old Wooden Boat about building a Strawberry Banke dory.
http://www.internationalmarine.com/
http://www.mysticseaport.org/
Strawberry Banke
603-433-1100
Portsmouth, NH 03801
Cut Copper Clench Nails
Mary Loring
traditional dories. I think it's still in print, from Int'l Marine or Mystic
Seaport. The yellow banks dory in the picture was built from an article in
an old, old Wooden Boat about building a Strawberry Banke dory.
http://www.internationalmarine.com/
http://www.mysticseaport.org/
Strawberry Banke
603-433-1100
Portsmouth, NH 03801
Cut Copper Clench Nails
Mary Loring
On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 23:06:40 -0000, Mike wrote:
> Those are some great looking boats.I want one of those in the worst
> way.I really need to learn how to build boats with the plank
> sides.Does anybody know any good books on how to build with that
> method? I am going to start with a plywood sided dory and then try
> building one the traditional way.I cant wait until my new shop is
> done.
>
>>http://www.boat-links.com/images/Dories-1.jpg
>>
>>http://www.boat-links.com/images/Dories-2.jpg
--
John <jkohnen@...>
http://www.boat-links.com/
The only way to keep your health is to eat what you don't want, drink what
you don't like, and do what you'd rather not. <Mark Twain>
Those are some great looking boats.I want one of those in the worst
way.I really need to learn how to build boats with the plank
sides.Does anybody know any good books on how to build with that
method? I am going to start with a plywood sided dory and then try
building one the traditional way.I cant wait until my new shop is
done.
Mike
way.I really need to learn how to build boats with the plank
sides.Does anybody know any good books on how to build with that
method? I am going to start with a plywood sided dory and then try
building one the traditional way.I cant wait until my new shop is
done.
Mike
--- In bolger@y..., jhkohnen@b... wrote:
> I was down at Depoe Bay yesterday afternoon, so I took a couple of
pictures
> of the Bill Childs dory. Here it is with a banks dory for scale:
>
>http://www.boat-links.com/images/Dories-1.jpg
>
> And with a 6-Hour Canoe for scale:
>
>http://www.boat-links.com/images/Dories-2.jpg
>
> On Sun, 24 Nov 2002 21:29:43 -0000, Mike C wrote:
> > I found two Dory's that I really like and I have no idea who's
design
> > they are or if plans are available.Could everyone take a look at
them
> > and maybe give me some idea of who's design they are?
> >
> >http://www.geocities.com/pibracing/forsale.html?1038173275090
>
> --
> John <jkohnen@b...>
>http://www.boat-links.com/
> I cannot help thinking that the people with motor boats miss a
great deal.
> If they would only keep to rowboats or canoes, and use oar or
paddle...
> they would get infinitely more benefit than by having their work
done for
> them by gasoline. <Theodore Roosevelt>
I was down at Depoe Bay yesterday afternoon, so I took a couple of pictures
of the Bill Childs dory. Here it is with a banks dory for scale:
http://www.boat-links.com/images/Dories-1.jpg
And with a 6-Hour Canoe for scale:
http://www.boat-links.com/images/Dories-2.jpg
of the Bill Childs dory. Here it is with a banks dory for scale:
http://www.boat-links.com/images/Dories-1.jpg
And with a 6-Hour Canoe for scale:
http://www.boat-links.com/images/Dories-2.jpg
On Sun, 24 Nov 2002 21:29:43 -0000, Mike C wrote:
> I found two Dory's that I really like and I have no idea who's design
> they are or if plans are available.Could everyone take a look at them
> and maybe give me some idea of who's design they are?
>
>http://www.geocities.com/pibracing/forsale.html?1038173275090
--
John <jkohnen@...>
http://www.boat-links.com/
I cannot help thinking that the people with motor boats miss a great deal.
If they would only keep to rowboats or canoes, and use oar or paddle...
they would get infinitely more benefit than by having their work done for
them by gasoline. <Theodore Roosevelt>
The one on the left in the top picture was designed and built by Bill
Childs for the Killer Whales rowing club in Depoe Bay. I'll give you his
email address in a private message.
Childs for the Killer Whales rowing club in Depoe Bay. I'll give you his
email address in a private message.
On Sun, 24 Nov 2002 21:29:43 -0000, Mike C wrote:
> I found two Dory's that I really like and I have no idea who's design
> they are or if plans are available.Could everyone take a look at them
> and maybe give me some idea of who's design they are?
>
>http://www.geocities.com/pibracing/forsale.html?1038173275090
--
John <jkohnen@...>
http://www.boat-links.com/
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety. <Benjamin Franklin>
I have had my eye on the Alaskan for a while now,I am purchasing plans
from Bolger this week for the 20 ft Dory.Maybe I will build the
Alaskan after the Big Dory.
Thanks
Mike
from Bolger this week for the 20 ft Dory.Maybe I will build the
Alaskan after the Big Dory.
Thanks
Mike
--- In bolger@y..., "John Cupp" <caj@k...> wrote:
> I sadly don't know of anyone personally who has built one of these
> designs. By joining his online group you can receive for free plans
> to build his Jenuea 14' Dory. All of the plans I have studied look
> safe to build and it is the responsibility of the builder and not the
> designer on the ultimate safety and any unauthorized changes made by
> the designer.
>
> I would love to build the Alaskan 20' Dory design. It looks to be a
> very stout Dory. I also would not mind the Large Bolger Dory that I
> consider with proper building to have the fastest lines between the
> two Dories for rowing.
>
> John
>
>
>
> --- In bolger@y..., "pibracing" <mcerio02@t...> wrote:
> > Do you know anyone who has built a Spira Intl boat? I have been
> > looking at there plans for some time now but I cant find anybody who
> > has bought them or built one.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Mike
> >
I sadly don't know of anyone personally who has built one of these
designs. By joining his online group you can receive for free plans
to build his Jenuea 14' Dory. All of the plans I have studied look
safe to build and it is the responsibility of the builder and not the
designer on the ultimate safety and any unauthorized changes made by
the designer.
I would love to build the Alaskan 20' Dory design. It looks to be a
very stout Dory. I also would not mind the Large Bolger Dory that I
consider with proper building to have the fastest lines between the
two Dories for rowing.
John
designs. By joining his online group you can receive for free plans
to build his Jenuea 14' Dory. All of the plans I have studied look
safe to build and it is the responsibility of the builder and not the
designer on the ultimate safety and any unauthorized changes made by
the designer.
I would love to build the Alaskan 20' Dory design. It looks to be a
very stout Dory. I also would not mind the Large Bolger Dory that I
consider with proper building to have the fastest lines between the
two Dories for rowing.
John
--- In bolger@y..., "pibracing" <mcerio02@t...> wrote:
> Do you know anyone who has built a Spira Intl boat? I have been
> looking at there plans for some time now but I cant find anybody who
> has bought them or built one.
>
> Thanks
> Mike
>
Do you know anyone who has built a Spira Intl boat? I have been
looking at there plans for some time now but I cant find anybody who
has bought them or built one.
Thanks
Mike
looking at there plans for some time now but I cant find anybody who
has bought them or built one.
Thanks
Mike
--- In bolger@y..., "John Cupp" <caj@k...> wrote:
> The bottom boat is definitely a multi chin Northwest Drift Boat. The
> short length and the large amount of rocker make it perfect for white
> water. There are several drift boat builders that use this multi
> chine design but it take much longer to build these boats than a
> straight sided Dory. With the large amount of rocker they are harder
> to row than a standard style Dory on flatter water and they are much
> slower rowing, like rowing a Bolger Brick.
>
> The top boat could be a Spira International Banks Dory. They make
> plans that look very similar. As all designs change slightly to the
> builders taste but my bet would be a Spira Design.
>
>http://home1.gte.net/jspira/boatbuilding/hp_gbdories.html
>
> There are many designers and many more builders and unfortunately
> none of use can name off every specific model. I can name five
> different knock offs of the Gloucester Gull that PB&F designed and
> all the other designers claim their particular boat is faster. When
> it all comes down the builder has the last say because they have the
> responsibility to finish a boat and that is what speed depends upon
> (plus a strong back and a will to win). If you are looking to use a
> boat mainly in the ocean or on lakes I would suggest a Dory. If you
> plan to fish white water rivers or streams then by all means only use
> a drift boat.
>
> John
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In bolger@y..., "pibracing" <mcerio02@t...> wrote:
> > I found two Dory's that I really like and I have no idea who's
> design
> > they are or if plans are available.Could everyone take a look at
> them
> > and maybe give me some idea of who's design they are?
> >
> >http://www.geocities.com/pibracing/forsale.html?1038173275090
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> > Mike C
The bottom boat is definitely a multi chin Northwest Drift Boat. The
short length and the large amount of rocker make it perfect for white
water. There are several drift boat builders that use this multi
chine design but it take much longer to build these boats than a
straight sided Dory. With the large amount of rocker they are harder
to row than a standard style Dory on flatter water and they are much
slower rowing, like rowing a Bolger Brick.
The top boat could be a Spira International Banks Dory. They make
plans that look very similar. As all designs change slightly to the
builders taste but my bet would be a Spira Design.
http://home1.gte.net/jspira/boatbuilding/hp_gbdories.html
There are many designers and many more builders and unfortunately
none of use can name off every specific model. I can name five
different knock offs of the Gloucester Gull that PB&F designed and
all the other designers claim their particular boat is faster. When
it all comes down the builder has the last say because they have the
responsibility to finish a boat and that is what speed depends upon
(plus a strong back and a will to win). If you are looking to use a
boat mainly in the ocean or on lakes I would suggest a Dory. If you
plan to fish white water rivers or streams then by all means only use
a drift boat.
John
short length and the large amount of rocker make it perfect for white
water. There are several drift boat builders that use this multi
chine design but it take much longer to build these boats than a
straight sided Dory. With the large amount of rocker they are harder
to row than a standard style Dory on flatter water and they are much
slower rowing, like rowing a Bolger Brick.
The top boat could be a Spira International Banks Dory. They make
plans that look very similar. As all designs change slightly to the
builders taste but my bet would be a Spira Design.
http://home1.gte.net/jspira/boatbuilding/hp_gbdories.html
There are many designers and many more builders and unfortunately
none of use can name off every specific model. I can name five
different knock offs of the Gloucester Gull that PB&F designed and
all the other designers claim their particular boat is faster. When
it all comes down the builder has the last say because they have the
responsibility to finish a boat and that is what speed depends upon
(plus a strong back and a will to win). If you are looking to use a
boat mainly in the ocean or on lakes I would suggest a Dory. If you
plan to fish white water rivers or streams then by all means only use
a drift boat.
John
--- In bolger@y..., "pibracing" <mcerio02@t...> wrote:
> I found two Dory's that I really like and I have no idea who's
design
> they are or if plans are available.Could everyone take a look at
them
> and maybe give me some idea of who's design they are?
>
>http://www.geocities.com/pibracing/forsale.html?1038173275090
>
>
> Thanks
> Mike C
I'm pretty sure your first picture was taken at the 2002 Depoe Bay
Wooden Boat Show. I think I recognize the lapstrake boat on the
right (not the dory), it belongs to someone from Portland who's name
I can't racall right now.
It's likely that the picture was taken by John Kohnen, he's a member
of this list, look under "members" for "jhkohnen" to contact him (if
he doesn't respond himself.) If you can't track down a designer for
the dory, head for Depoe Bay in the last weekend of April next Spring.
There were several dories at the show, traditional, Bolger light
dories and variations.
Good luck.
Jamie Orr
Wooden Boat Show. I think I recognize the lapstrake boat on the
right (not the dory), it belongs to someone from Portland who's name
I can't racall right now.
It's likely that the picture was taken by John Kohnen, he's a member
of this list, look under "members" for "jhkohnen" to contact him (if
he doesn't respond himself.) If you can't track down a designer for
the dory, head for Depoe Bay in the last weekend of April next Spring.
There were several dories at the show, traditional, Bolger light
dories and variations.
Good luck.
Jamie Orr
--- In bolger@y..., "pibracing" <mcerio02@t...> wrote:
> I found two Dory's that I really like and I have no idea who's
design
> they are or if plans are available.Could everyone take a look at
them
> and maybe give me some idea of who's design they are?
>
>http://www.geocities.com/pibracing/forsale.html?1038173275090
>
>
> Thanks
> Mike C
Howdy
See Ya
Have Fun
Bruce
www.myweb.cableone.net/bcanderson
> -----Original Message-----Don't know whose designs they are, but the Dory sure looks over built!!!
> To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [bolger] Name these Dory's
> I found two Dory's that I really like and I have no idea
> who's design they are or if plans are available.Could
> everyone take a look at them and maybe give me some idea of
> who's design they are?
See Ya
Have Fun
Bruce
www.myweb.cableone.net/bcanderson
They look very much like John Gardner designs. The left one and the second pic could be the Fisherman´s Dory from 1944 or the St. Pierre´s, the right one the Chamberlain gunning dory.
Buy the Dory book from Mystic Seaport Museum and you get all the building data.
Frank
Buy the Dory book from Mystic Seaport Museum and you get all the building data.
Frank
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Subject: [bolger] Name these Dory's
I found two Dory's that I really like and I have no idea who's design
they are or if plans are available.Could everyone take a look at them
and maybe give me some idea of who's design they are?
http://www.geocities.com/pibracing/forsale.html?1038173275090
Thanks
Mike C
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I found two Dory's that I really like and I have no idea who's design
they are or if plans are available.Could everyone take a look at them
and maybe give me some idea of who's design they are?
http://www.geocities.com/pibracing/forsale.html?1038173275090
Thanks
Mike C
they are or if plans are available.Could everyone take a look at them
and maybe give me some idea of who's design they are?
http://www.geocities.com/pibracing/forsale.html?1038173275090
Thanks
Mike C