Re: Micro rooting and flooding
--- "Paul Lefebvre" <paul@w...> wrote:
the small decks each side above the
bow well floation chambers are used as
routing spaces for the Chinese Gaff
rig reefing lines, topping lift lines,
and halyards.
> middle with a small deck over itLooking again at the Navigator plans,
the small decks each side above the
bow well floation chambers are used as
routing spaces for the Chinese Gaff
rig reefing lines, topping lift lines,
and halyards.
I believe the bow well flooding would not happen nearly to the extent that
Peter describes if the bow foam flotation blocks specified in the plans were
installed to float your weight when you're standing up there; you might sink
the bow slightly by flooding through those drain holes, but your weight
would be offset by the foam long before the water reaches the lower step. If
I'm not mistaken, Peter opted to leave out that foam and keep that the space
open for storing more useful things; I've read accounts of others who did
likewise, accepting the perfectly reasonable tradeoff of having to stay out
of the bow well while under sail. But this discussion has given me a new
idea - making an enclosed space, accessible from inside at the head of the
berths, for storage AND bow-well flotation.... hmmmmmm... I'll have to see
how much space my anchor would need, maybe leave an anchor slot in the
middle with a small deck over it, and build flotation/storage boxes on
either side, cut some small access holes in bulkhead 'A'. The only liability
I can see is I'd effectively lose my 'collision bulkhead'; if the bow hits
something, the water could come inside. might be noisier at anchor too.
Perhaps a watertight hatch for access to each cubby?
Paul Lefebvre, reverting to armchair building now that winter has finally
descended on Cape Cod.....
Peter describes if the bow foam flotation blocks specified in the plans were
installed to float your weight when you're standing up there; you might sink
the bow slightly by flooding through those drain holes, but your weight
would be offset by the foam long before the water reaches the lower step. If
I'm not mistaken, Peter opted to leave out that foam and keep that the space
open for storing more useful things; I've read accounts of others who did
likewise, accepting the perfectly reasonable tradeoff of having to stay out
of the bow well while under sail. But this discussion has given me a new
idea - making an enclosed space, accessible from inside at the head of the
berths, for storage AND bow-well flotation.... hmmmmmm... I'll have to see
how much space my anchor would need, maybe leave an anchor slot in the
middle with a small deck over it, and build flotation/storage boxes on
either side, cut some small access holes in bulkhead 'A'. The only liability
I can see is I'd effectively lose my 'collision bulkhead'; if the bow hits
something, the water could come inside. might be noisier at anchor too.
Perhaps a watertight hatch for access to each cubby?
Paul Lefebvre, reverting to armchair building now that winter has finally
descended on Cape Cod.....
--- "Richard Spelling" <richard@c...> wrote:
the well are specified at only 1"
diameter [two of them].
The _Lovers_ essay warns that the bow
vent does 'spit'.
I can hardly believe that water could
come in the step holes, and not flow
out the step holes, to the extreme
extent to flood an high as the vent.
The vent is well above the lower step
hole. Spitting and splashing through
the vent hole I can believe. I think
a revamping of the baffling of the
forward vent would be smart. The Bolger
AS-29 has a more elaborate baffling detail,
which must work better.
see:
http://www.hallman.org/bolger/AS29/
> the bow well flooding and bringingThe drain holes in the bottom of
> water aboard via the forward vent...
>
> Is this a character problem for the Micro?
the well are specified at only 1"
diameter [two of them].
The _Lovers_ essay warns that the bow
vent does 'spit'.
I can hardly believe that water could
come in the step holes, and not flow
out the step holes, to the extreme
extent to flood an high as the vent.
The vent is well above the lower step
hole. Spitting and splashing through
the vent hole I can believe. I think
a revamping of the baffling of the
forward vent would be smart. The Bolger
AS-29 has a more elaborate baffling detail,
which must work better.
see:
http://www.hallman.org/bolger/AS29/
Peter! Shouldn't scare your crew!
Interesting that this exact same thing happened to a friends Micro in my
recent Eufaula cruise. The bow well filled up so much through the step holes
that water was coming in the vent. This was beating in large (averaging a
bit less than 3 ft) waves,
Also, on the moderators site there is mention of running under spinaker and
the bow well flooding and bringing water aboard via the forward vent...
Is this a character problem for the Micro?
Interesting that this exact same thing happened to a friends Micro in my
recent Eufaula cruise. The bow well filled up so much through the step holes
that water was coming in the vent. This was beating in large (averaging a
bit less than 3 ft) waves,
Also, on the moderators site there is mention of running under spinaker and
the bow well flooding and bringing water aboard via the forward vent...
Is this a character problem for the Micro?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Lenihan" <ellengaest@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 6:51 AM
Subject: [bolger] Re: ugh, oh...the off season
> One weakness I noticed,however was that if someone does stand/sit
> up forward near the mainmast for any length of time,the Micro begins
> to nose-dive.That is,water begins to flood up through the drain holes
> in the bottom sinking the bow ever lower until the water starts to
> enter through the first step.Next thing you know,water is up to your
> ankles and the stern is cocked up at a weird angle.I never stayed
> there much longer to see just what would happen ultimately since my
> crew,who was at the helm, began to make Italien panic noises and I
> had to go back to driving the boat.