Re: [bolger] Re: "Lightfoot 21" update
Those are spritsails on the Lightfoot, not lugsails! ;o) I suppose there's
a break in the luff sleeve for rigging the snotter. In the Good Old Days
according to Pete Culler, lots of small spritsails didn't have halyards,
you furled them by wrapping the sail around the mast. I have a halyard on
my boat, but have never used it to lower the sail. It's also easy to rig a
brail to gather the sail and sprit up to the mast -- VERY handy! I don't
know how it would work with the sprit boom on the foresail, but it'd
probably do fine if you slacked off the boom's snotter first. To rig a
brail, measure the head of the sail, then put in a small grommet on the
leech of the sail the length of the nead below the peak. Lash the end of a
light line to the throat of the sail on one side, and a small block or
fairlead to the other. Run the line through the grommet and back through
the block and down the mast (a ring or two lashed to the lacing (or sewn to
the sleeve on the lightfoot) can keep the brail from blowing around) and
through a fairlead on the side of the mast, then back to a handy cleat.
After living with one for a while, I can't imagine having a spritsail
without a brail! <g>
a break in the luff sleeve for rigging the snotter. In the Good Old Days
according to Pete Culler, lots of small spritsails didn't have halyards,
you furled them by wrapping the sail around the mast. I have a halyard on
my boat, but have never used it to lower the sail. It's also easy to rig a
brail to gather the sail and sprit up to the mast -- VERY handy! I don't
know how it would work with the sprit boom on the foresail, but it'd
probably do fine if you slacked off the boom's snotter first. To rig a
brail, measure the head of the sail, then put in a small grommet on the
leech of the sail the length of the nead below the peak. Lash the end of a
light line to the throat of the sail on one side, and a small block or
fairlead to the other. Run the line through the grommet and back through
the block and down the mast (a ring or two lashed to the lacing (or sewn to
the sleeve on the lightfoot) can keep the brail from blowing around) and
through a fairlead on the side of the mast, then back to a handy cleat.
After living with one for a while, I can't imagine having a spritsail
without a brail! <g>
On Mon, 30 Dec 2002 03:11:34 -0000, Curtis wrote:
> ...
> I found a lot of info on the Yahoo Hensnest group, particularly in
> the photos section. Looks like this was an open-cockpit predecessor
> of the Bay Hen. Different rig (spritsail schooner), wood coamings,
> maybe a deeper rudder.
>http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Hensnest/lst, click on
> HenBrochures for 2 or 3 views.
>
> The lugsails have sleeves that slide over big aluminum unstayed
> masts. The masts are then dropped into the steps. I'm a bit
> concerned about stepping and unstepping the mast way out on the bow,
> no other way to lower sail...
> ...
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Ned Asplundh <nasplundh@y...>"
<nasplundh@y...> wrote:
said "Traditional Watercraft". Guess I didn't realize this was the
builder (no "inc", "co", or anything).
the photos section. Looks like this was an open-cockpit predecessor
of the Bay Hen. Different rig (spritsail schooner), wood coamings,
maybe a deeper rudder.
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Hensnest/lst, click on
HenBrochures for 2 or 3 views.
The lugsails have sleeves that slide over big aluminum unstayed
masts. The masts are then dropped into the steps. I'm a bit
concerned about stepping and unstepping the mast way out on the bow,
no other way to lower sail...
It's got a fixed "spade" rudder, under the transom. Connected via
pulleys to a rudder in the cockpit. If I buy this boat, I'll have to
figure out a modification, maybe a Bolger-style plate on the bottom
of a shallow rudder. Or, if this doesn't work, some kind of kick-
up. Could get really complicated: a two-part rudder, with a bottom,
winged segment, retracting into the upper section.
Any ideas?
Or, in the interest of my domestic harmony, anybody in the Jersey
area interested in this boat? I'd ask for a finders fee, of course
(maybe borrow it once in a while, when visiting my in-laws).
Thanks for all the help
Curtis
<nasplundh@y...> wrote:
> Crawled up into the attic tonight, and found an old SBJ article onYes, I went back this morning to look at it, and the nameplate
> the boat by Roger Taylor. As of 9/81, builder was Traditional
> Watercraft of Largo, FL.
said "Traditional Watercraft". Guess I didn't realize this was the
builder (no "inc", "co", or anything).
> > I think that the hullI found a lot of info on the Yahoo Hensnest group, particularly in
> > mold became the Florida Bay Hen. Someone over on the
> > Hensnest group may know more.
the photos section. Looks like this was an open-cockpit predecessor
of the Bay Hen. Different rig (spritsail schooner), wood coamings,
maybe a deeper rudder.
http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Hensnest/lst, click on
HenBrochures for 2 or 3 views.
The lugsails have sleeves that slide over big aluminum unstayed
masts. The masts are then dropped into the steps. I'm a bit
concerned about stepping and unstepping the mast way out on the bow,
no other way to lower sail...
It's got a fixed "spade" rudder, under the transom. Connected via
pulleys to a rudder in the cockpit. If I buy this boat, I'll have to
figure out a modification, maybe a Bolger-style plate on the bottom
of a shallow rudder. Or, if this doesn't work, some kind of kick-
up. Could get really complicated: a two-part rudder, with a bottom,
winged segment, retracting into the upper section.
Any ideas?
Or, in the interest of my domestic harmony, anybody in the Jersey
area interested in this boat? I'd ask for a finders fee, of course
(maybe borrow it once in a while, when visiting my in-laws).
Thanks for all the help
Curtis
That wouldn't be a bad little power cruiser, with the 8.8 hp Yamaha
high thrust motor!
Nels
high thrust motor!
Nels
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bill Turnbull <wturn@y...> wrote:
> Looked in the yellow pages and found a listing for
> them in Largo:
>
> Traditional Watercraft Inc
> 1979 Wild Acres Rd, Largo, FL 33771
> Phone: (727) 535-6431
>
> Bill
>
> --- Chuck Leinweber <chuck@d...>
> wrote:
> > Ned:
> >
> > Which issue was that article in?
> >
> > Chuck
> > Crawled up into the attic tonight, and found an
> > old SBJ article on
> > the boat by Roger Taylor. As of 9/81, builder was
> > Traditional
> > Watercraft of Largo, FL. I'll scan and post to one
> > of the Bolger
> > groups in a couple of days....
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> >
> >
> > Bolger rules!!!
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> > - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box
> > 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
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Looked in the yellow pages and found a listing for
them in Largo:
Traditional Watercraft Inc
1979 Wild Acres Rd, Largo, FL 33771
Phone: (727) 535-6431
Bill
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them in Largo:
Traditional Watercraft Inc
1979 Wild Acres Rd, Largo, FL 33771
Phone: (727) 535-6431
Bill
--- Chuck Leinweber <chuck@...>
wrote:
> Ned:__________________________________________________
>
> Which issue was that article in?
>
> Chuck
> Crawled up into the attic tonight, and found an
> old SBJ article on
> the boat by Roger Taylor. As of 9/81, builder was
> Traditional
> Watercraft of Largo, FL. I'll scan and post to one
> of the Bolger
> groups in a couple of days....
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or
> flogging dead horses
> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed,
> thanks, Fred' posts
> - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts
> and <snip> away
> - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box
> 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
> - Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> - Open discussion:
>bolger_coffee_lounge-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
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>
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September 1981 Scans were just posted in the Files section of the
Bolger3 group; folder name is "Lightfoot."
FYI, a Google of "traditonal watercraft" shows that the company name
was changed to Island Packet Yachts. But I doubt the boat is still
built by them.
Bolger3 group; folder name is "Lightfoot."
FYI, a Google of "traditonal watercraft" shows that the company name
was changed to Island Packet Yachts. But I doubt the boat is still
built by them.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Chuck Leinweber" <chuck@d...> wrote:
> Ned:
>
> Which issue was that article in?
>
> Chuck
> Crawled up into the attic tonight, and found an old SBJ article
on
> the boat by Roger Taylor. As of 9/81, builder was Traditional
> Watercraft of Largo, FL. I'll scan and post to one of the Bolger
> groups in a couple of days....
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Ned:
Which issue was that article in?
Chuck
Crawled up into the attic tonight, and found an old SBJ article on
the boat by Roger Taylor. As of 9/81, builder was Traditional
Watercraft of Largo, FL. I'll scan and post to one of the Bolger
groups in a couple of days....
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Which issue was that article in?
Chuck
Crawled up into the attic tonight, and found an old SBJ article on
the boat by Roger Taylor. As of 9/81, builder was Traditional
Watercraft of Largo, FL. I'll scan and post to one of the Bolger
groups in a couple of days....
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Crawled up into the attic tonight, and found an old SBJ article on
the boat by Roger Taylor. As of 9/81, builder was Traditional
Watercraft of Largo, FL. I'll scan and post to one of the Bolger
groups in a couple of days....
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Ned Asplundh <nasplundh@y...>"
<nasplundh@y...> wrote:
the boat by Roger Taylor. As of 9/81, builder was Traditional
Watercraft of Largo, FL. I'll scan and post to one of the Bolger
groups in a couple of days....
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Ned Asplundh <nasplundh@y...>"
<nasplundh@y...> wrote:
> Not sure of the original builder's name, but I think that the hull
> mold became the Florida Bay Hen. Someone over on the Hensnest group
> may know more.
>
Not sure of the original builder's name, but I think that the hull
mold became the Florida Bay Hen. Someone over on the Hensnest group
may know more.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "sals_dad <sals_dad@b...>"
<sals_dad@b...> wrote:
mold became the Florida Bay Hen. Someone over on the Hensnest group
may know more.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "sals_dad <sals_dad@b...>"
<sals_dad@b...> wrote:
> I just came across a boat for sale:promises
> Fiberglass, open saiboat, with high wood coaming,
> Boxy (I initially thought it was ply/epoxy)
> Builders plate says "lightfoot 21"
> 3 mast steps - appears to be a schooner or cat-ketch, with a 3rd
> step for sailing with a single mast (jib??)
> About 6' beam, with a well for an outboard.
>
> The price is right ("see how close you can come to $750, no
> on the trailer"); hull apears to be in good shape, didn't see therig
> yet.
>
> Anybody heard of this boat? A Google search turns up somebody
> asking the same question in 1995, but no answers.
>
>
> Thanks
> Curtis
I just came across a boat for sale:
Fiberglass, open saiboat, with high wood coaming,
Boxy (I initially thought it was ply/epoxy)
Builders plate says "lightfoot 21"
3 mast steps - appears to be a schooner or cat-ketch, with a 3rd
step for sailing with a single mast (jib??)
About 6' beam, with a well for an outboard.
The price is right ("see how close you can come to $750, no promises
on the trailer"); hull apears to be in good shape, didn't see the rig
yet.
Anybody heard of this boat? A Google search turns up somebody
asking the same question in 1995, but no answers.
Thanks
Curtis
Fiberglass, open saiboat, with high wood coaming,
Boxy (I initially thought it was ply/epoxy)
Builders plate says "lightfoot 21"
3 mast steps - appears to be a schooner or cat-ketch, with a 3rd
step for sailing with a single mast (jib??)
About 6' beam, with a well for an outboard.
The price is right ("see how close you can come to $750, no promises
on the trailer"); hull apears to be in good shape, didn't see the rig
yet.
Anybody heard of this boat? A Google search turns up somebody
asking the same question in 1995, but no answers.
Thanks
Curtis