Re: BC Plywood
John,
I built my Nymph a couple of years ago out of BC ply from Home
Depot. It is still surviving up in Conneticut with my son. I went
through the whole stack of plywood to find sheets that didn't have
many knots and no dutchmen. Look very close for the dutchmen and a
type of putty that the mills use to fill voids. Avoid any puttied
sheets. I bought a sheet that on first inspection looked good, but
when I got home and started to lay it out for cutting found a big
puttied filled area and had to go get another sheet.
One word of caution....if you are going to do business with that
Home Depot in the future, re-stack all of the sheets of ply that you
don't buy back in the rack neatly, just as it was before you started
looking. That just insures that they will let you pick the cream of
the crop next time you need wood. Helps to bring a freind to flip the
sheets around with you. I always go alone, so out come the Ben Gay
when I am through!!!
Have fun building and keep smiling,
Rich
I built my Nymph a couple of years ago out of BC ply from Home
Depot. It is still surviving up in Conneticut with my son. I went
through the whole stack of plywood to find sheets that didn't have
many knots and no dutchmen. Look very close for the dutchmen and a
type of putty that the mills use to fill voids. Avoid any puttied
sheets. I bought a sheet that on first inspection looked good, but
when I got home and started to lay it out for cutting found a big
puttied filled area and had to go get another sheet.
One word of caution....if you are going to do business with that
Home Depot in the future, re-stack all of the sheets of ply that you
don't buy back in the rack neatly, just as it was before you started
looking. That just insures that they will let you pick the cream of
the crop next time you need wood. Helps to bring a freind to flip the
sheets around with you. I always go alone, so out come the Ben Gay
when I am through!!!
Have fun building and keep smiling,
Rich
I am builing my Nymph out of Home Depot BC. It isn't in the water
yet, but it is the decision I made, for what that is worth.
Check different stores in your area. At my local store, the BC pine
was AWFULL; full of knot holes and voids. At another store within
fifty miles, I found a whole stack that was GREAT; NO knot holes...
I'd call it AB. I suspect that the manufacturer will use whatever
veneers it has available, so if you are lucky, you get better wood.
gbb
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<jcconnor@s...> wrote:
yet, but it is the decision I made, for what that is worth.
Check different stores in your area. At my local store, the BC pine
was AWFULL; full of knot holes and voids. At another store within
fifty miles, I found a whole stack that was GREAT; NO knot holes...
I'd call it AB. I suspect that the manufacturer will use whatever
veneers it has available, so if you are lucky, you get better wood.
gbb
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "connorboats <jcconnor@s...>"
<jcconnor@s...> wrote:
> I am starting the process of building a Bolger Gypsy (got the plansa
> from Dynamite for Christmas). This will be my first boat and I had
> question about the plywood. The local Home Depot carries BC grade1/2,
> Yellow Pine. It's not marked exterior (the larger thicknesses,
> and 3/8 both show exterior stamps) and I was wondering if thiswould
> still work? I've been boiling a small scrap (about 4" by 6") for aedges
> couple of hours and other than some slight delamination at the
> seems to be holding together well. Any thoughts?
>
> John
John,
I'm not excited about BC yellow myself. I tried it once and found it hard
to bend and highly subject to moisture. I would definitly avoid it if you
don't have a dry place to build. I used lauan underlayment on mine and it
still came out heavy. Of course I decked mine front and back and gave her a
good bath in epoxy, too. None-the-less, there are only 5 or 6 sheets of ply
in the whole boat which, in the end, isn't the most significant cost in the
whole boat. I personally prefer fir ply to most anything else I have used,
but it comes with a lot of knots to fill.
I am at this very moment building a web site for the boats I have built and
will send you a link when it is ready.
Roger S
I'm not excited about BC yellow myself. I tried it once and found it hard
to bend and highly subject to moisture. I would definitly avoid it if you
don't have a dry place to build. I used lauan underlayment on mine and it
still came out heavy. Of course I decked mine front and back and gave her a
good bath in epoxy, too. None-the-less, there are only 5 or 6 sheets of ply
in the whole boat which, in the end, isn't the most significant cost in the
whole boat. I personally prefer fir ply to most anything else I have used,
but it comes with a lot of knots to fill.
I am at this very moment building a web site for the boats I have built and
will send you a link when it is ready.
Roger S
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From: <jcconnor@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 6:50 PM
Subject: [bolger] BC Plywood
> I am starting the process of building a Bolger Gypsy (got the plans
> from Dynamite for Christmas). This will be my first boat and I had a
> question about the plywood. The local Home Depot carries BC grade
> Yellow Pine.
Having built my Gypsy out of luan (cheepest stuff in the store), I
would be willing to bet that the BC will work just fine for you.
I second the opinion that you are better off just building it and
enjoying it rather than worrying about which type of wood will be
best. If it will all be epoxy encapsulated anyway, I personally feel
that the boiling water test is less important than it might seem. The
only exception to this is on the rudder and daggerboard which can
recieve a lot of end-grain abraision from running aground. I used
cheap glue to laminate my first daggerboard and it disintigrated
within a couple hours of the first time I bounced it on the bottom. I
epoxy laminated the second one and made sure there was extra cloth and
epoxy along the bottom edge.
Brent
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "connorboats <jcconnor@s...>"
<jcconnor@s...> wrote:
would be willing to bet that the BC will work just fine for you.
I second the opinion that you are better off just building it and
enjoying it rather than worrying about which type of wood will be
best. If it will all be epoxy encapsulated anyway, I personally feel
that the boiling water test is less important than it might seem. The
only exception to this is on the rudder and daggerboard which can
recieve a lot of end-grain abraision from running aground. I used
cheap glue to laminate my first daggerboard and it disintigrated
within a couple hours of the first time I bounced it on the bottom. I
epoxy laminated the second one and made sure there was extra cloth and
epoxy along the bottom edge.
Brent
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "connorboats <jcconnor@s...>"
<jcconnor@s...> wrote:
> I am starting the process of building a Bolger Gypsy (got the plans
> from Dynamite for Christmas). This will be my first boat and I had a
> question about the plywood. The local Home Depot carries BC grade
> Yellow Pine. It's not marked exterior (the larger thicknesses, 1/2,
> and 3/8 both show exterior stamps) and I was wondering if this would
> still work? I've been boiling a small scrap (about 4" by 6") for a
> couple of hours and other than some slight delamination at the edges
> seems to be holding together well. Any thoughts?
>
> John
>I am starting the process of building a Bolger Gypsy (got the plansRueul Parker more or less calls BC ply the poorman's boatbuilding
>from Dynamite for Christmas). This will be my first boat and I had a
>question about the plywood. The local Home Depot carries BC grade
>Yellow Pine. It's not marked exterior (the larger thicknesses, 1/2,
>and 3/8 both show exterior stamps) and I was wondering if this would
>still work? I've been boiling a small scrap (about 4" by 6") for a
>couple of hours and other than some slight delamination at the edges
>seems to be holding together well. Any thoughts?
material. Whatever its weaknesses, chances are you'll do something
else far worse to your boat.
I say build the hull out of the best you can afford *today*. If
that's $100/sheet Lloyds marine, God bless. If that's BC, God bless
too! The important thing is to build the boat. This one is only the
first, you can go fancier (or cheeper) on the next one.
YIBB,
David
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I am starting the process of building a Bolger Gypsy (got the plans
from Dynamite for Christmas). This will be my first boat and I had a
question about the plywood. The local Home Depot carries BC grade
Yellow Pine. It's not marked exterior (the larger thicknesses, 1/2,
and 3/8 both show exterior stamps) and I was wondering if this would
still work? I've been boiling a small scrap (about 4" by 6") for a
couple of hours and other than some slight delamination at the edges
seems to be holding together well. Any thoughts?
John
from Dynamite for Christmas). This will be my first boat and I had a
question about the plywood. The local Home Depot carries BC grade
Yellow Pine. It's not marked exterior (the larger thicknesses, 1/2,
and 3/8 both show exterior stamps) and I was wondering if this would
still work? I've been boiling a small scrap (about 4" by 6") for a
couple of hours and other than some slight delamination at the edges
seems to be holding together well. Any thoughts?
John