Re: Rowing / fishing boat - Opinions needed! (Sweet Pea?)

George,
No, you have not missed anything. For some reason Dynamite has never
added a description of this design to his website. If you check his
price list, he offers not only the blueprints and sails for Sweet
Pea, but also a reprint of the articles he wrote for WoodenBoat
detailing his construction of the boat. As I recall there were also
comments by Specter about a rowing trip he took in a Sweet Pea with
his wife.

There used to be some pictures of finished Sweet Peas in the "My
Wooden Boat" section of the WoodenBoat website. It is searchable, so
you can get to the pictures fairly quickly.

Feel free to email me directly if I can be of any more help.

Have fun,
John

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "gbb132000 <gbb132000@y...>"
<gbb132000@y...> wrote:

> John-
>
> I looked at the Payson site, but can't find a description of Sweet
> Pea... though he does offer a sail for it. Am I missing

something?

> gbb--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "jbatesblnk <JBatesBlnk@a...>"
> <JBatesBlnk@a...> wrote:
> > George,
> >
> > Take a look at Bolger's Sweet Pea design (available from Payson).
> In
> > BWAOM he has high praise for it's rowing ability and

seaworthiness.

> > Payson rowed his standing up, so I would guess it would be OK for
> > fishing. Most find it a very pretty boat, always a plus.
> >
> > I'd suggest that you forgo the whole slipping keel assembly. It
> looks
> > like one of Phil's experiments that may indeed work, but is sure

to

> > drive you nuts over time. If you really want to sail it, figure

out

> a
> > centerboard.
> >
> > Have fun with whichever one you build.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "gbb132000 <gbb132000@y...>"
> > <gbb132000@y...> wrote:
> > > I'm building Bolger Nymph, and coming along well enough that I
> > > already know I will want another boat.
> > >
> > > The second boat should be between 12' and 16', long by appx 4'
> > wide.
> > > I'd like it to row well, but have reasonable stability for
> > fishing.
> > > Looking for the best possible compromise between rowing
> performance
> > > and stability.
> > >
> > > I've looked at Bolger Gypsy, Michalak Roar2, and

boatdesigns.com

> > > Peeper.
> > >
> > > I realize that you folks are kind of shy about stating your
> > opinions,
> > > but please tell me your thoughts. ;o)
> > >
> > > George

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "gbb132000 <gbb132000@y...>"
<gbb132000@y...> wrote:

> I looked at the Payson site, but can't find a description of Sweet
> Pea... though he does offer a sail for it. Am I missing
> something?

Payson's site isn't exactly consistent or completely representative
of what he sells. Sweet Pea is noted on the pricelist page at
http://www.instantboats.com/pricetxt.htmlas Item 40. The
last info packet that I got from him had the study sheets. I think
this boat is very attractive.

Steve Hansen

John-

I looked at the Payson site, but can't find a description of Sweet
Pea... though he does offer a sail for it. Am I missing something?
gbb--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "jbatesblnk <JBatesBlnk@a...>"
<JBatesBlnk@a...> wrote:

> George,
>
> Take a look at Bolger's Sweet Pea design (available from Payson).

In

> BWAOM he has high praise for it's rowing ability and seaworthiness.
> Payson rowed his standing up, so I would guess it would be OK for
> fishing. Most find it a very pretty boat, always a plus.
>
> I'd suggest that you forgo the whole slipping keel assembly. It

looks

> like one of Phil's experiments that may indeed work, but is sure to
> drive you nuts over time. If you really want to sail it, figure out

a

> centerboard.
>
> Have fun with whichever one you build.
>
> John
>
>
>
>
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "gbb132000 <gbb132000@y...>"
> <gbb132000@y...> wrote:
> > I'm building Bolger Nymph, and coming along well enough that I
> > already know I will want another boat.
> >
> > The second boat should be between 12' and 16', long by appx 4'
> wide.
> > I'd like it to row well, but have reasonable stability for
> fishing.
> > Looking for the best possible compromise between rowing

performance

> > and stability.
> >
> > I've looked at Bolger Gypsy, Michalak Roar2, and boatdesigns.com
> > Peeper.
> >
> > I realize that you folks are kind of shy about stating your
> opinions,
> > but please tell me your thoughts. ;o)
> >
> > George

>I'm building Bolger Nymph, and coming along well enough that I
>already know I will want another boat.
>
>The second boat should be between 12' and 16', long by appx 4' wide.
>I'd like it to row well, but have reasonable stability for fishing.
>Looking for the best possible compromise between rowing performance
>and stability.

I've used the Teal and Gull extensively for fishing off the beach in
Montauk. The Teal is more stable, and rows well enough to get the job
done. The sailing is a nice bonus. I troll the coves under sail power
and kill stripers when everyone else is skunked.

The Gull is a GREAT fishing boat, especially if you have to go
out/come in through surf. The Teal tends to bury her nose going out,
and is less predictable coming back it when it gets surfed. Yes, it's
more tender than the Teal, but still enough to make good casts from a
sitting position. In exchange for a little more tenderness, the The
Gull has more flat out speed, handles the waves better, and goes
about 3.5 mph at a "walking effort" of rowing, and she looks so
pretty. The other guys who fish off the beach all use kayaks, and
they all envy my Gull. But there are times when I miss being able to
put up a sail!

I think the Surf would be a good choice as well. Can't row any worse
than the Teal, and probably sails better. Fast to build and pretty!
Less flair and rocker than the Gull, so she won't be as good in the
impact zone, but still probably as good or better than the Teal.

I'm still trying to decide between a Zephyr and a Big Dory for two
person off the beach fishing.

In my opinion, all other suggestions have been needless complicated.
It's a fishboat! Build it fast and go fishing!

YIBB,

David
--

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415 W.46th Street
New York, New York 10036
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Office (212) 247-0296

George,

Take a look at Bolger's Sweet Pea design (available from Payson). In
BWAOM he has high praise for it's rowing ability and seaworthiness.
Payson rowed his standing up, so I would guess it would be OK for
fishing. Most find it a very pretty boat, always a plus.

I'd suggest that you forgo the whole slipping keel assembly. It looks
like one of Phil's experiments that may indeed work, but is sure to
drive you nuts over time. If you really want to sail it, figure out a
centerboard.

Have fun with whichever one you build.

John





--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "gbb132000 <gbb132000@y...>"
<gbb132000@y...> wrote:

> I'm building Bolger Nymph, and coming along well enough that I
> already know I will want another boat.
>
> The second boat should be between 12' and 16', long by appx 4'

wide.

> I'd like it to row well, but have reasonable stability for

fishing.

> Looking for the best possible compromise between rowing performance
> and stability.
>
> I've looked at Bolger Gypsy, Michalak Roar2, and boatdesigns.com
> Peeper.
>
> I realize that you folks are kind of shy about stating your

opinions,

> but please tell me your thoughts. ;o)
>
> George

Rich, when I go to your Fortune City hosted web page, I can't see
much, because it is overlaid by Fortune City Wallpaper. This must be
the ultimate in advert supported 'free' web pages.
DonB

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "rmdeming <thedemings@s...>"
<thedemings@s...> wrote:

> George,
> Roar looks real nice to me and if you do a search in the archive

of

> this group and the Michalak group you may find out some more about
> it. I know that I have eyeballed Roar as a possible future rowboat

(I

> don't have one right now). I don't know of Pepper so I can't say.
> If you want something a bit smaller and a real easy build, then

may

> I suggest the Pointy Skiff? At 10'6" she rows well and is plenty
> stable for casting. I built one myself and now my freind uses her

on

> a small pond a couple of towns over.
> Pictures of the Pointy Skiff that I built are here:
>http://members.fortunecity.com/smallboat/
> Whatever you build, I can almost garrr-n-tee that you will enjoy
> it. Nothing quite like rowing a boat you built with your own

hands.

> Have at it!
> Have fun building,
> Rich

George,
Roar looks real nice to me and if you do a search in the archive of
this group and the Michalak group you may find out some more about
it. I know that I have eyeballed Roar as a possible future rowboat (I
don't have one right now). I don't know of Pepper so I can't say.
If you want something a bit smaller and a real easy build, then may
I suggest the Pointy Skiff? At 10'6" she rows well and is plenty
stable for casting. I built one myself and now my freind uses her on
a small pond a couple of towns over.
Pictures of the Pointy Skiff that I built are here:
http://members.fortunecity.com/smallboat/
Whatever you build, I can almost garrr-n-tee that you will enjoy
it. Nothing quite like rowing a boat you built with your own hands.
Have at it!
Have fun building,
Rich

I'm building Bolger Nymph, and coming along well enough that I
already know I will want another boat.

The second boat should be between 12' and 16', long by appx 4' wide.
I'd like it to row well, but have reasonable stability for fishing.
Looking for the best possible compromise between rowing performance
and stability.

I've looked at Bolger Gypsy, Michalak Roar2, and boatdesigns.com
Peeper.

I realize that you folks are kind of shy about stating your opinions,
but please tell me your thoughts. ;o)

George