Re: [bolger] Table saw
It may well be 3 phase and still only 2hp. Mine is. At this price a Ronk or other brand rotary phase converter would make sense. Having one would allow you to buy any of the many 3 ph. tools available at lower prices. Prices are sometimes lower because not everyone can use 3 ph so the potential sales market is smaller. That's how it works around here anyway.
For those in the group in NY here is a unisaw for $850, a pretty good price.
If I saw one for that locally I would dump my old grizzly table saw and buy
it right now.
http://www.woodweb.com/cgi-bin/forums/machinery.pl?read=234986
It says 3 phase, but I suspect they mean normal 220 as it is only 2hp.
HJ
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For those in the group in NY here is a unisaw for $850, a pretty good price.
If I saw one for that locally I would dump my old grizzly table saw and buy
it right now.
http://www.woodweb.com/cgi-bin/forums/machinery.pl?read=234986
It says 3 phase, but I suspect they mean normal 220 as it is only 2hp.
HJ
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For those in the group in NY here is a unisaw for $850, a pretty good price.
If I saw one for that locally I would dump my old grizzly table saw and buy
it right now.
http://www.woodweb.com/cgi-bin/forums/machinery.pl?read=234986
It says 3 phase, but I suspect they mean normal 220 as it is only 2hp.
HJ
If I saw one for that locally I would dump my old grizzly table saw and buy
it right now.
http://www.woodweb.com/cgi-bin/forums/machinery.pl?read=234986
It says 3 phase, but I suspect they mean normal 220 as it is only 2hp.
HJ
--- In bolger@yahoogroups.com, "robby plunkett" <robbylplunkett@h...>
wrote:
Check this out also for canal work and then some:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/WINDERMERE%20Construction%
20photos/
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan
wrote:
> jeff,could you tell me where i can see this wyo? i've been lookingfor a
> canal boat. any other sites? thanks,robbyRobby,
Check this out also for canal work and then some:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/WINDERMERE%20Construction%
20photos/
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan
>
>
>
John,
This sounds like a wonderful idea! Perhaps we should just seek
out an association that already has a "worldwide" membership like
here:http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Fishwick/ayrs.htm
It would not take a great leap to conclude that we are all
researchers forever hunting the elusive fastest-easiest-cheapest-
strongest-cutest-bestest boat for our needs. Furthermore,our
membership are constantly running longitudinal studies regarding the
durability of paints,epoxies,fasteners and species of wood worldwide!
Some of us actually have the unmitigated gaul to leave the musty
confines of the "lab" to the theorist and actually build a vessel
loaded with all sorts of innovations that would terrorize any right
thinking insurance man or coast guard officer.That's research :-)
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,research assistant to Dr.Pesky Crew
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "John Cupp <caj@k...>" <caj@k...>
wrote:
This sounds like a wonderful idea! Perhaps we should just seek
out an association that already has a "worldwide" membership like
here:http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Fishwick/ayrs.htm
It would not take a great leap to conclude that we are all
researchers forever hunting the elusive fastest-easiest-cheapest-
strongest-cutest-bestest boat for our needs. Furthermore,our
membership are constantly running longitudinal studies regarding the
durability of paints,epoxies,fasteners and species of wood worldwide!
Some of us actually have the unmitigated gaul to leave the musty
confines of the "lab" to the theorist and actually build a vessel
loaded with all sorts of innovations that would terrorize any right
thinking insurance man or coast guard officer.That's research :-)
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,research assistant to Dr.Pesky Crew
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "John Cupp <caj@k...>" <caj@k...>
wrote:
> A world wide association can get lower shipping rates and under the
> guise of a race can let your boat into country for many months of
> practice without having to pay special importation fee's unless you
> want to sell it after you are there. Australia and other sailing
> countries are eager to promote good will races and will actually
> assist in finding reasonable rates for transit if you are a
> recognized association.
>
> This would be a perfect solution since Bolgerista's love to get
> together and talk while sailing their boats
--- "robby plunkett" <robbylplunkett@h...> wrote:
http://www.hallman.org/bolger/Wyoming/
> jeff,could you tell me where i can see this wyo?I put a scan of the latest MAIB article at:
http://www.hallman.org/bolger/Wyoming/
There is one in Austrailia and I'm attempting to build one. I have pictures
on my site of the one in Austrailia as well as my progress.
www.dreamwater.net/cosailor
I hope this helps.
Jeff
on my site of the one in Austrailia as well as my progress.
www.dreamwater.net/cosailor
I hope this helps.
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "robby plunkett" <robbylplunkett@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: AS29 LEYENDA..containerised!!!
> jeff,could you tell me where i can see this wyo? i've been looking for a
> canal boat. any other sites? thanks,robby
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "jeff" <boatbuilding@...>
> >Reply-To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
> >To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
> >Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: AS29 LEYENDA..containerised!!!
> >Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 13:17:00 -0700
> >
> >To bad a Wyo wouldn't fit. It would probably make a nice canal boat in
> >Europe at 8' beam.
> >
> >Jeff
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "David Ryan" <david@...>
> >To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
> >Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:11 PM
> >Subject: [bolger] Re: AS29 LEYENDA..containerised!!!
> >
> >
> > >
> > > >It looks like my Micro Navigator
> > > >could fit inside a standard 20 foot
> > > >container, except for the main
> > > >mast which is 20 feet long.
> > >
> > > Build a new mast when you get where you're going.
> > >
> > > -D
> > > --
> > >
> > > C.E.P.
> > > 415 W.46th Street
> > > New York, New York 10036
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> > > Office (212) 247-0296
> > >
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jeff,could you tell me where i can see this wyo? i've been looking for a
canal boat. any other sites? thanks,robby
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>From: "jeff" <boatbuilding@...>_________________________________________________________________
>Reply-To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
>To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: AS29 LEYENDA..containerised!!!
>Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 13:17:00 -0700
>
>To bad a Wyo wouldn't fit. It would probably make a nice canal boat in
>Europe at 8' beam.
>
>Jeff
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "David Ryan" <david@...>
>To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:11 PM
>Subject: [bolger] Re: AS29 LEYENDA..containerised!!!
>
>
> >
> > >It looks like my Micro Navigator
> > >could fit inside a standard 20 foot
> > >container, except for the main
> > >mast which is 20 feet long.
> >
> > Build a new mast when you get where you're going.
> >
> > -D
> > --
> >
> > C.E.P.
> > 415 W.46th Street
> > New York, New York 10036
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--- "soussouchew vachew@v...> wrote:
and somewhat less 'inside' dimensions, but
assuming 7'3" clear, that means 20'8" on
the diagonal. Should work!
Here is a sketch of the segmented mast
I was thinking of...I still might do it
this way. Increasing the height of the
mast about a foot would improve the angle
for the peak halyard.
http://www.hallman.org/bolger/micro/mast.gif
Anybody know about how much $ to ship a 20'
container from San Francisco to Hawaii?
> Put you 20 foot mast diagonally in theThe container is 8x8x20 outside dimensions
> container. That give you
> about 21 1/2 feet.
>
> Vince
and somewhat less 'inside' dimensions, but
assuming 7'3" clear, that means 20'8" on
the diagonal. Should work!
Here is a sketch of the segmented mast
I was thinking of...I still might do it
this way. Increasing the height of the
mast about a foot would improve the angle
for the peak halyard.
http://www.hallman.org/bolger/micro/mast.gif
Anybody know about how much $ to ship a 20'
container from San Francisco to Hawaii?
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "John Cupp <caj@k...>"
<caj@k...> wrote:
http://www.ACLcargo.com/whatisRoro.php
<caj@k...> wrote:
> There are many types of ships and many places to put yourboats on
> deck and inside them when they are loaded. How do you thinkthey get
> 12 meter yachts where they are going? These are much biggerthan
http://www.ACLcargo.com/whatisRoro.php
There are many types of ships and many places to put your boats on
deck and inside them when they are loaded. How do you think they get
12 meter yachts where they are going? These are much bigger than
most Bolger boats(and crap is not a description of any Bolger design).
What is needed for the ease of importation of guest vessels is a
Bolger association in each country you would like to ship your boat.
A world wide association can get lower shipping rates and under the
guise of a race can let your boat into country for many months of
practice without having to pay special importation fee's unless you
want to sell it after you are there. Australia and other sailing
countries are eager to promote good will races and will actually
assist in finding reasonable rates for transit if you are a
recognized association.
This would be a perfect solution since Bolgerista's love to get
together and talk while sailing their boats. So form a loosely ruled
association and make crossing great distances easy for those who want
that sort of thing. Keep in mind all fellow Bolgerista's that just
because your in an association doesn't give you a right to break
local laws while importing and exporting. One bad apple could ruin a
good thing.
As a beach cat sailor I can attest to container packing parties
where ten to twelve boats were placed in each container and shipped
across the country and world under the authority of the prevailing
association for races. All the contestants had to do was pay the
portion of the shipping(very small)and have a valid Visa with their
airline ticket. Some shipping lines have cabins onboard and some
don't but those that do have inexpensive rates and first class
service. So get together and form an association! IMHO,
John
deck and inside them when they are loaded. How do you think they get
12 meter yachts where they are going? These are much bigger than
most Bolger boats(and crap is not a description of any Bolger design).
What is needed for the ease of importation of guest vessels is a
Bolger association in each country you would like to ship your boat.
A world wide association can get lower shipping rates and under the
guise of a race can let your boat into country for many months of
practice without having to pay special importation fee's unless you
want to sell it after you are there. Australia and other sailing
countries are eager to promote good will races and will actually
assist in finding reasonable rates for transit if you are a
recognized association.
This would be a perfect solution since Bolgerista's love to get
together and talk while sailing their boats. So form a loosely ruled
association and make crossing great distances easy for those who want
that sort of thing. Keep in mind all fellow Bolgerista's that just
because your in an association doesn't give you a right to break
local laws while importing and exporting. One bad apple could ruin a
good thing.
As a beach cat sailor I can attest to container packing parties
where ten to twelve boats were placed in each container and shipped
across the country and world under the authority of the prevailing
association for races. All the contestants had to do was pay the
portion of the shipping(very small)and have a valid Visa with their
airline ticket. Some shipping lines have cabins onboard and some
don't but those that do have inexpensive rates and first class
service. So get together and form an association! IMHO,
John
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "jeff" <boatbuilding@g...> wrote:
> You know, that's not a bad idea. Maybe some day. I wonder if
they'd let
> you live aboard as she was going across?
>
> Jeff
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Ryan" <david@c...>
> To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: AS29 LEYENDA..containerised!!!
>
>
> > >To bad a Wyo wouldn't fit. It would probably make a nice canal
boat in
> > >Europe at 8' beam.
> > >
> >
> > Jeff,
> >
> > Do not despair! Lots of things get carried on ships' decks. I bet
the
> > Wyo's shape makes her an excellent candidate for this. A few old
> > tires and some tie-down straps and she's good to go. Beat the to
the
> > other side, build and little quick and dirty punt and have the
ship's
> > crane lower her to you in the water. Climb aboard, fire up the
motor
> > and off you go!
> >
> > -D
> > --
> >
> > C.E.P.
> > 415 W.46th Street
> > New York, New York 10036
> >http://www.crumblingempire.com
> > Mobile (646) 325-8325
> > Office (212) 247-0296
> >
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posts
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<snip> away
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Gloucester, MA,
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "soussouchew <vachew@v...>"
<vachew@v...> wrote:
Vince
<vachew@v...> wrote:
> Bruce,I have a typing impediment.
>
> Put you 20 foot mast diagonally in the container. That give you
> about 21 1/2 feet.
>
> Vince
Vince
Bruce,
Put you 20 foot mast diagonally in the container. That give you
about 21 1/2 feet.
Vince
Put you 20 foot mast diagonally in the container. That give you
about 21 1/2 feet.
Vince
You know, that's not a bad idea. Maybe some day. I wonder if they'd let
you live aboard as she was going across?
Jeff
you live aboard as she was going across?
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Ryan" <david@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: AS29 LEYENDA..containerised!!!
> >To bad a Wyo wouldn't fit. It would probably make a nice canal boat in
> >Europe at 8' beam.
> >
>
> Jeff,
>
> Do not despair! Lots of things get carried on ships' decks. I bet the
> Wyo's shape makes her an excellent candidate for this. A few old
> tires and some tie-down straps and she's good to go. Beat the to the
> other side, build and little quick and dirty punt and have the ship's
> crane lower her to you in the water. Climb aboard, fire up the motor
> and off you go!
>
> -D
> --
>
> C.E.P.
> 415 W.46th Street
> New York, New York 10036
>http://www.crumblingempire.com
> Mobile (646) 325-8325
> Office (212) 247-0296
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
> - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts and <snip> away
> - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA,
01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
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>
>To bad a Wyo wouldn't fit. It would probably make a nice canal boat inJeff,
>Europe at 8' beam.
>
Do not despair! Lots of things get carried on ships' decks. I bet the
Wyo's shape makes her an excellent candidate for this. A few old
tires and some tie-down straps and she's good to go. Beat the to the
other side, build and little quick and dirty punt and have the ship's
crane lower her to you in the water. Climb aboard, fire up the motor
and off you go!
-D
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Office (212) 247-0296
To bad a Wyo wouldn't fit. It would probably make a nice canal boat in
Europe at 8' beam.
Jeff
Europe at 8' beam.
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Ryan" <david@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:11 PM
Subject: [bolger] Re: AS29 LEYENDA..containerised!!!
>
> >It looks like my Micro Navigator
> >could fit inside a standard 20 foot
> >container, except for the main
> >mast which is 20 feet long.
>
> Build a new mast when you get where you're going.
>
> -D
> --
>
> C.E.P.
> 415 W.46th Street
> New York, New York 10036
>http://www.crumblingempire.com
> Mobile (646) 325-8325
> Office (212) 247-0296
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
> - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts and <snip> away
> - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA,
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>
>It looks like my Micro NavigatorBuild a new mast when you get where you're going.
>could fit inside a standard 20 foot
>container, except for the main
>mast which is 20 feet long.
-D
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>> This link may help you and othersI think the I60 is going to be just a bit too wide for an actual
>>
>>http://www.maersksealand.com/msl/msl/Gauss/res/equip_container.pdf
>
>Hmm. I notice that one of the options is 40' x 8' x 9'6", which
>ought to be sufficient for a folded Insolent 60. Hmm....
container, but I'm sure there are plenty of other, comparatively
affordable options, such as the flatrack and artificial tweendecks.
YIBB,
David
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> This link may help you and othersHmm. I notice that one of the options is 40' x 8' x 9'6", which
>
>http://www.maersksealand.com/msl/msl/Gauss/res/equip_container.pdf
ought to be sufficient for a folded Insolent 60. Hmm....
-- Sue --
(whose cruising range may have just gotten bigger :-) )
--
Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
> I am very much intrigued aboutmy mind is churning again... <grin>
> the idea of the maximum boat that
> fits in a standard container,
It looks like my Micro Navigator
could fit inside a standard 20 foot
container, except for the main
mast which is 20 feet long.
Hmmm, the top 4 feet of the main
mast [everything above the top
yard] could be removable. IOW,
one could devise a mortoise and
tenon 'top mast' to reduce the
longest stick to be only 16 feet.
Also, answering my own question:
The database lists the AS-29
width at 7'10" [which is barely less
than the 8'-0" maximum envelope].
Woo Hoo!, Bora Bora, here I come <grin>.
--- andy wilson <and46y@y...> wrote:
What are the dimensions of your AS-29?
Scaling from the drawing in the book BWAOM
the height and width seem to be:
Ht. 8'5" (2,566mm)
Width 8'3" (2,515mm)
The standardized container 'external'
width seems to be 2,438mm (8 feet)
I am very much intrigued about
the idea of the maximum boat that
fits in a standard container, but
it looks to me that the AS-29
exceeds the 'standard' width by
a few inches. The AS-29 rub rails
stick out a few inches. Perhaps
a few inches oversize doesn't
matter to the shippers.
[Also, could someone tell me
which MAIB issue contained the
'upgrade' to the AS-29 design?]
><big grin>
> Yes folks! the AS 29 goes into a
> container...at least onto what we
> call a flat rack here in Australia.
What are the dimensions of your AS-29?
Scaling from the drawing in the book BWAOM
the height and width seem to be:
Ht. 8'5" (2,566mm)
Width 8'3" (2,515mm)
The standardized container 'external'
width seems to be 2,438mm (8 feet)
I am very much intrigued about
the idea of the maximum boat that
fits in a standard container, but
it looks to me that the AS-29
exceeds the 'standard' width by
a few inches. The AS-29 rub rails
stick out a few inches. Perhaps
a few inches oversize doesn't
matter to the shippers.
[Also, could someone tell me
which MAIB issue contained the
'upgrade' to the AS-29 design?]
Peter:
This does seem to fit the bill. Did you consider calling it "Tight Moose"?
Chuck
Duckworks Design Contest. Length as shown is 22 ft. (This cartoon is
just a first cut)
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/contest2002/07/peter.htm
Peter
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This does seem to fit the bill. Did you consider calling it "Tight Moose"?
Chuck
> Could somebody come up with a dedicated boat-in-a box designNot to blow my horn too much, but have you seen my entry in the
> to fit a standard 20ft shipping container? Ideas flit around
> a shortened Jessie Cooper. Might as well offend almost everybody.!
Duckworks Design Contest. Length as shown is 22 ft. (This cartoon is
just a first cut)
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/contest2002/07/peter.htm
Peter
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> Could somebody come up with a dedicated boat-in-a box designNot to blow my horn too much, but have you seen my entry in the
> to fit a standard 20ft shipping container? Ideas flit around
> a shortened Jessie Cooper. Might as well offend almost everybody.!
Duckworks Design Contest. Length as shown is 22 ft. (This cartoon is
just a first cut)
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/contest2002/07/peter.htm
Peter
Dear All, Re-print with my blessing! Might stir a few plans along! Remarks on AS29 apply to all small or rather slim craft. Could somebody come up with a dedicated boat-in-a box design to fit a standard 20ft shipping container? Ideas flit around a shortened Jessie Cooper. Might as well offend almost everybody.!
Such a craft should have 6ft headroom over a 4ft square area to allow cooking and dressing,low simple rig,masts that drop and 4stroke OB power. Outboards and motorbikes and generators can be found[and fixed] in the most remote parts of the world. Avoid 2 and 4 hp as these tend to block their cooling circulation with salt very fast. You may not have enough fresh water to wash out the power head. How about fresh water as ballast? You could have multiple compartments that are re-filled with sea water as used. Self-righting is a must and a narrow high hull can be so configured,hang the looks! one day you are going to be flattened by a 90mph line squall all alone off,say,New Guinea. Better have a reliable box all around you. Think about full positive buoyancy too... All the pointy ends and odd corners can be filled in to save your skin and I for one will take my chances in a partly flooded but unsinkable box than a little raft. While talking about New Guinea,can you picture the giant logs coming down the coastal rivers from the logging[better say rape and pillage ] of that remarkable wilderness? Triple plywood bottoms sheathed in glass give you a second chance and dont skimp on the collision bulkhead.!
Don't put all your life and savings into the boat. Be ready to pile it up on a reef and walk away to your nearest plywood stack and build anew...it's just an artefact to get you to all the remote and lovely parts of this fair world before they pave them[and you!] over
Hope I haven't put you off...
Mailing your boat is as easy or hard as sailing there yourself with customs regs different for each country. Be meticulous with research and don't offend the poor guy at the front desk....he didn't dream up the paper chase and he just wants you outa there as fast as you do.
From Australia, container freight seems pretty cheap. Most go back empty to Europe or the US because we don't export large fabricated items.
OK, stop dreaming and start doing.! Andy Wilsion
"ghartc <gcarlson@...>" <gcarlson@...> wrote:Norm,
Brilliant - superbly practical in Bolger fashion. What's it going to
cost you to ship, how far? I might have missed some thread, but I
guess you'll ship from boatyard to boatyard with crane/travelift.
Or, can a seafreight terminal drop you in the drink?
What's the difference in clearing customs other than sailing in? Of
course, you will do so coming off the plane, but surely your boat
will have to be imported - maybe on a temporary bond? Cruising
permit?
Gregg Carlson
Such a craft should have 6ft headroom over a 4ft square area to allow cooking and dressing,low simple rig,masts that drop and 4stroke OB power. Outboards and motorbikes and generators can be found[and fixed] in the most remote parts of the world. Avoid 2 and 4 hp as these tend to block their cooling circulation with salt very fast. You may not have enough fresh water to wash out the power head. How about fresh water as ballast? You could have multiple compartments that are re-filled with sea water as used. Self-righting is a must and a narrow high hull can be so configured,hang the looks! one day you are going to be flattened by a 90mph line squall all alone off,say,New Guinea. Better have a reliable box all around you. Think about full positive buoyancy too... All the pointy ends and odd corners can be filled in to save your skin and I for one will take my chances in a partly flooded but unsinkable box than a little raft. While talking about New Guinea,can you picture the giant logs coming down the coastal rivers from the logging[better say rape and pillage ] of that remarkable wilderness? Triple plywood bottoms sheathed in glass give you a second chance and dont skimp on the collision bulkhead.!
Don't put all your life and savings into the boat. Be ready to pile it up on a reef and walk away to your nearest plywood stack and build anew...it's just an artefact to get you to all the remote and lovely parts of this fair world before they pave them[and you!] over
Hope I haven't put you off...
Mailing your boat is as easy or hard as sailing there yourself with customs regs different for each country. Be meticulous with research and don't offend the poor guy at the front desk....he didn't dream up the paper chase and he just wants you outa there as fast as you do.
From Australia, container freight seems pretty cheap. Most go back empty to Europe or the US because we don't export large fabricated items.
OK, stop dreaming and start doing.! Andy Wilsion
"ghartc <gcarlson@...>" <gcarlson@...> wrote:Norm,
Brilliant - superbly practical in Bolger fashion. What's it going to
cost you to ship, how far? I might have missed some thread, but I
guess you'll ship from boatyard to boatyard with crane/travelift.
Or, can a seafreight terminal drop you in the drink?
What's the difference in clearing customs other than sailing in? Of
course, you will do so coming off the plane, but surely your boat
will have to be imported - maybe on a temporary bond? Cruising
permit?
Gregg Carlson
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, andy wilson <and46y@y...> wrote:
> Yes folks! the AS 29 goes into a container...at least onto what we
call a flat rack here in Australia. It's a container base without
sides plus four corner posts and usually allows loading sideways via
HD fork lift. The AS 29 fits onto the fork like any other big wooden
crate and sits flat on the rack which is then lifted aboard like any
other standard container. unkind folk say the AS 29 IS a big wooden
crate....untill it sails past them and draws away at a rate of knots.
Then they just pretend not to have witnessed the whole sorry
incident!!!
> The shipping rates are so low that it is cheaper to send the craft
to your best loved cruising grounds and fly to meet her there than
try to sail on your own. Purists will object,but let me just say that
the vessel you want to take you there is not the one you want when
you get there. Try 6 ft draught in tropical Australia! plus a
complicated rig that needs an engineering workshop and a rigger plus
a Chandler handy....I cruise to get away from that sort of thing!
> Containers have let me,in the past,cruise the Baltic,French
Canals, Indonesia [out now until the current unpleasantness is over]
the Solomons and other parts in vessels that were not suitable to get
me there but were superb for being there. That is,zero draught,simple
rig and self sufficient. Repeatedly,when living on Rarotanga,I saw
lovely craft,perfect for winter,north Atlantic,confined to the
dusty,rat infested poor harbor at Avitu when I skimmed into the
beautiful Muri lagoon and tied up to my hut on the beach. All this at
a fraction of the cost of sailing an unsuitable vessel all the way
downhill to Australia,and then what? A difficult choice between the
twin horrors of working up the Red Sea or chancing your luck around
Good hope. Good luck! the lazy [or prudent] AS 29 salior will know
that the free ride all the way from Europe or Panama or the West
Coast has ended and it is time to put the boat into a box and mail it
home!
> Maybe that's why so many fine craft sit on moorings on the East
coast of Australia waiting for somebody to pay the import duty and
buy the vessel at a fraction of the value in Seattle. Think about
that if you are buying a world cruiser!
> Maybe I am just getting too old and am past it!
> Regards to you all.... Andy
> Norm Blitch <normblitch@m...> wrote:...AND I forgot High-cubes at
9' 6" high
>
> This link may help you and others
>
>http://www.maersksealand.com/msl/msl/Gauss/res/equip_container.pdf
>
> here is the complete equipment book for Maersk-SeaLand...these
types of
> containers are in use by most other Container Carriers as
well...most Ports
> are well-served by independent Container Freight Stations whose
profession
> is the vanning and de-vanning of cargo like the AS...
>
> IMPORTANT NOTE!
>
> Years in Ocean freight have led me to believe (IMHO) that most
ordinary
> folks who try to arrange their own Ocean freight lose in the
end...PLEASE
> avail yourself of a reputable Foreign Freight Forwarder and Customs
House
> Broker....what small costs incurred will be made back in
convenience, and
> (GOD Forbid) access to prompt redress in the cause of damage and/or
loss...
>
> Norm Blitch
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Norm,
Brilliant - superbly practical in Bolger fashion. What's it going to
cost you to ship, how far? I might have missed some thread, but I
guess you'll ship from boatyard to boatyard with crane/travelift.
Or, can a seafreight terminal drop you in the drink?
What's the difference in clearing customs other than sailing in? Of
course, you will do so coming off the plane, but surely your boat
will have to be imported - maybe on a temporary bond? Cruising
permit?
Gregg Carlson
Brilliant - superbly practical in Bolger fashion. What's it going to
cost you to ship, how far? I might have missed some thread, but I
guess you'll ship from boatyard to boatyard with crane/travelift.
Or, can a seafreight terminal drop you in the drink?
What's the difference in clearing customs other than sailing in? Of
course, you will do so coming off the plane, but surely your boat
will have to be imported - maybe on a temporary bond? Cruising
permit?
Gregg Carlson
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, andy wilson <and46y@y...> wrote:
> Yes folks! the AS 29 goes into a container...at least onto what we
call a flat rack here in Australia. It's a container base without
sides plus four corner posts and usually allows loading sideways via
HD fork lift. The AS 29 fits onto the fork like any other big wooden
crate and sits flat on the rack which is then lifted aboard like any
other standard container. unkind folk say the AS 29 IS a big wooden
crate....untill it sails past them and draws away at a rate of knots.
Then they just pretend not to have witnessed the whole sorry
incident!!!
> The shipping rates are so low that it is cheaper to send the craft
to your best loved cruising grounds and fly to meet her there than
try to sail on your own. Purists will object,but let me just say that
the vessel you want to take you there is not the one you want when
you get there. Try 6 ft draught in tropical Australia! plus a
complicated rig that needs an engineering workshop and a rigger plus
a Chandler handy....I cruise to get away from that sort of thing!
> Containers have let me,in the past,cruise the Baltic,French
Canals, Indonesia [out now until the current unpleasantness is over]
the Solomons and other parts in vessels that were not suitable to get
me there but were superb for being there. That is,zero draught,simple
rig and self sufficient. Repeatedly,when living on Rarotanga,I saw
lovely craft,perfect for winter,north Atlantic,confined to the
dusty,rat infested poor harbor at Avitu when I skimmed into the
beautiful Muri lagoon and tied up to my hut on the beach. All this at
a fraction of the cost of sailing an unsuitable vessel all the way
downhill to Australia,and then what? A difficult choice between the
twin horrors of working up the Red Sea or chancing your luck around
Good hope. Good luck! the lazy [or prudent] AS 29 salior will know
that the free ride all the way from Europe or Panama or the West
Coast has ended and it is time to put the boat into a box and mail it
home!
> Maybe that's why so many fine craft sit on moorings on the East
coast of Australia waiting for somebody to pay the import duty and
buy the vessel at a fraction of the value in Seattle. Think about
that if you are buying a world cruiser!
> Maybe I am just getting too old and am past it!
> Regards to you all.... Andy
> Norm Blitch <normblitch@m...> wrote:...AND I forgot High-cubes at
9' 6" high
>
> This link may help you and others
>
>http://www.maersksealand.com/msl/msl/Gauss/res/equip_container.pdf
>
> here is the complete equipment book for Maersk-SeaLand...these
types of
> containers are in use by most other Container Carriers as
well...most Ports
> are well-served by independent Container Freight Stations whose
profession
> is the vanning and de-vanning of cargo like the AS...
>
> IMPORTANT NOTE!
>
> Years in Ocean freight have led me to believe (IMHO) that most
ordinary
> folks who try to arrange their own Ocean freight lose in the
end...PLEASE
> avail yourself of a reputable Foreign Freight Forwarder and Customs
House
> Broker....what small costs incurred will be made back in
convenience, and
> (GOD Forbid) access to prompt redress in the cause of damage and/or
loss...
>
> Norm Blitch
Real cool thoughts, I have to give this one some consideration. I am a
coastal cruiser by inclination, deep water passages have no allure. I like to
poke around in nooks an crannies where water and land meet.
HJ
coastal cruiser by inclination, deep water passages have no allure. I like to
poke around in nooks an crannies where water and land meet.
HJ
> Yes folks! the AS 29 goes into a container...at least onto what we call a
> flat rack here in Australia. It's a container base without sides plus four
> corner posts and usually allows loading sideways via HD fork lift. The AS
> 29 fits onto the fork like any other big wooden crate and sits flat on the
> rack which is then lifted aboard like any other standard container.
> unkind folk say the AS 29 IS a big wooden crate....untill it sails past
> them and draws away at a rate of knots. Then they just pretend not to have
> witnessed the whole sorry incident!!! The shipping rates are so low that it
> is cheaper to send the craft to your best loved cruising grounds and fly to
> meet her there than try to sail on your own. Purists will object,but let me
> just say that the vessel you want to take you there is not the one you want
> when you get there. Try 6 ft draught in tropical Australia! plus a
> complicated rig that needs an engineering workshop and a rigger plus a
> Chandler handy....I cruise to get away from that sort of thing! Containers
> have let me,in the past,cruise the Baltic,French Canals, Indonesia [out now
> until the current unpleasantness is over] the Solomons and other parts in
> vessels that were not suitable to get me there but were superb for being
> there. That is,zero draught,simple rig and self sufficient. Repeatedly,when
> living on Rarotanga,I saw lovely craft,perfect for winter,north
> Atlantic,confined to the dusty,rat infested poor harbor at Avitu when I
> skimmed into the beautiful Muri lagoon and tied up to my hut on the beach.
> All this at a fraction of the cost of sailing an unsuitable vessel all the
> way downhill to Australia,and then what? A difficult choice between the
> twin horrors of working up the Red Sea or chancing your luck around Good
> hope. Good luck! the lazy [or prudent] AS 29 salior will know that the free
> ride all the way from Europe or Panama or the West Coast has ended and it
> is time to put the boat into a box and mail it home! Maybe that's why so
> many fine craft sit on moorings on the East coast of Australia waiting for
> somebody to pay the import duty and buy the vessel at a fraction of the
> value in Seattle. Think about that if you are buying a world cruiser! Maybe
> I am just getting too old and am past it!
> Regards to you all.... Andy
> Norm Blitch <normblitch@...> wrote:...AND I forgot High-cubes
> at 9' 6" high
>
>
Yes folks! the AS 29 goes into a container...at least onto what we call a flat rack here in Australia. It's a container base without sides plus four corner posts and usually allows loading sideways via HD fork lift. The AS 29 fits onto the fork like any other big wooden crate and sits flat on the rack which is then lifted aboard like any other standard container. unkind folk say the AS 29 IS a big wooden crate....untill it sails past them and draws away at a rate of knots. Then they just pretend not to have witnessed the whole sorry incident!!!
The shipping rates are so low that it is cheaper to send the craft to your best loved cruising grounds and fly to meet her there than try to sail on your own. Purists will object,but let me just say that the vessel you want to take you there is not the one you want when you get there. Try 6 ft draught in tropical Australia! plus a complicated rig that needs an engineering workshop and a rigger plus a Chandler handy....I cruise to get away from that sort of thing!
Containers have let me,in the past,cruise the Baltic,French Canals, Indonesia [out now until the current unpleasantness is over] the Solomons and other parts in vessels that were not suitable to get me there but were superb for being there. That is,zero draught,simple rig and self sufficient. Repeatedly,when living on Rarotanga,I saw lovely craft,perfect for winter,north Atlantic,confined to the dusty,rat infested poor harbor at Avitu when I skimmed into the beautiful Muri lagoon and tied up to my hut on the beach. All this at a fraction of the cost of sailing an unsuitable vessel all the way downhill to Australia,and then what? A difficult choice between the twin horrors of working up the Red Sea or chancing your luck around Good hope. Good luck! the lazy [or prudent] AS 29 salior will know that the free ride all the way from Europe or Panama or the West Coast has ended and it is time to put the boat into a box and mail it home!
Maybe that's why so many fine craft sit on moorings on the East coast of Australia waiting for somebody to pay the import duty and buy the vessel at a fraction of the value in Seattle. Think about that if you are buying a world cruiser!
Maybe I am just getting too old and am past it!
Regards to you all.... Andy
Norm Blitch <normblitch@...> wrote:...AND I forgot High-cubes at 9' 6" high
This link may help you and others
http://www.maersksealand.com/msl/msl/Gauss/res/equip_container.pdf
here is the complete equipment book for Maersk-SeaLand...these types of
containers are in use by most other Container Carriers as well...most Ports
are well-served by independent Container Freight Stations whose profession
is the vanning and de-vanning of cargo like the AS...
IMPORTANT NOTE!
Years in Ocean freight have led me to believe (IMHO) that most ordinary
folks who try to arrange their own Ocean freight lose in the end...PLEASE
avail yourself of a reputable Foreign Freight Forwarder and Customs House
Broker....what small costs incurred will be made back in convenience, and
(GOD Forbid) access to prompt redress in the cause of damage and/or loss...
Norm Blitch
The shipping rates are so low that it is cheaper to send the craft to your best loved cruising grounds and fly to meet her there than try to sail on your own. Purists will object,but let me just say that the vessel you want to take you there is not the one you want when you get there. Try 6 ft draught in tropical Australia! plus a complicated rig that needs an engineering workshop and a rigger plus a Chandler handy....I cruise to get away from that sort of thing!
Containers have let me,in the past,cruise the Baltic,French Canals, Indonesia [out now until the current unpleasantness is over] the Solomons and other parts in vessels that were not suitable to get me there but were superb for being there. That is,zero draught,simple rig and self sufficient. Repeatedly,when living on Rarotanga,I saw lovely craft,perfect for winter,north Atlantic,confined to the dusty,rat infested poor harbor at Avitu when I skimmed into the beautiful Muri lagoon and tied up to my hut on the beach. All this at a fraction of the cost of sailing an unsuitable vessel all the way downhill to Australia,and then what? A difficult choice between the twin horrors of working up the Red Sea or chancing your luck around Good hope. Good luck! the lazy [or prudent] AS 29 salior will know that the free ride all the way from Europe or Panama or the West Coast has ended and it is time to put the boat into a box and mail it home!
Maybe that's why so many fine craft sit on moorings on the East coast of Australia waiting for somebody to pay the import duty and buy the vessel at a fraction of the value in Seattle. Think about that if you are buying a world cruiser!
Maybe I am just getting too old and am past it!
Regards to you all.... Andy
Norm Blitch <normblitch@...> wrote:...AND I forgot High-cubes at 9' 6" high
This link may help you and others
http://www.maersksealand.com/msl/msl/Gauss/res/equip_container.pdf
here is the complete equipment book for Maersk-SeaLand...these types of
containers are in use by most other Container Carriers as well...most Ports
are well-served by independent Container Freight Stations whose profession
is the vanning and de-vanning of cargo like the AS...
IMPORTANT NOTE!
Years in Ocean freight have led me to believe (IMHO) that most ordinary
folks who try to arrange their own Ocean freight lose in the end...PLEASE
avail yourself of a reputable Foreign Freight Forwarder and Customs House
Broker....what small costs incurred will be made back in convenience, and
(GOD Forbid) access to prompt redress in the cause of damage and/or loss...
Norm Blitch
----- Original Message -----
From: <brucehallman@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 12:12 AM
Subject: [bolger] Re: AS29 LEYENDA
> --- "Norm Blitch" <normblitch@m...> wrote:
>
> > Typically, ISO containers come
> > in two heights; 8' and 8'6....
>
> And...does an AS29 fit?
>
> If so,
> I have another thing to dream about...
>
> Certainly there is not much room to
> spare in width or height.
>
> You might need to be clever with
> grease or UHMW skids to push her
> in and pull her out.
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...AND I forgot High-cubes at 9' 6" high
This link may help you and others
http://www.maersksealand.com/msl/msl/Gauss/res/equip_container.pdf
here is the complete equipment book for Maersk-SeaLand...these types of
containers are in use by most other Container Carriers as well...most Ports
are well-served by independent Container Freight Stations whose profession
is the vanning and de-vanning of cargo like the AS...
IMPORTANT NOTE!
Years in Ocean freight have led me to believe (IMHO) that most ordinary
folks who try to arrange their own Ocean freight lose in the end...PLEASE
avail yourself of a reputable Foreign Freight Forwarder and Customs House
Broker....what small costs incurred will be made back in convenience, and
(GOD Forbid) access to prompt redress in the cause of damage and/or loss...
Norm Blitch
This link may help you and others
http://www.maersksealand.com/msl/msl/Gauss/res/equip_container.pdf
here is the complete equipment book for Maersk-SeaLand...these types of
containers are in use by most other Container Carriers as well...most Ports
are well-served by independent Container Freight Stations whose profession
is the vanning and de-vanning of cargo like the AS...
IMPORTANT NOTE!
Years in Ocean freight have led me to believe (IMHO) that most ordinary
folks who try to arrange their own Ocean freight lose in the end...PLEASE
avail yourself of a reputable Foreign Freight Forwarder and Customs House
Broker....what small costs incurred will be made back in convenience, and
(GOD Forbid) access to prompt redress in the cause of damage and/or loss...
Norm Blitch
----- Original Message -----
From: <brucehallman@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 12:12 AM
Subject: [bolger] Re: AS29 LEYENDA
> --- "Norm Blitch" <normblitch@m...> wrote:
>
> > Typically, ISO containers come
> > in two heights; 8' and 8'6....
>
> And...does an AS29 fit?
>
> If so,
> I have another thing to dream about...
>
> Certainly there is not much room to
> spare in width or height.
>
> You might need to be clever with
> grease or UHMW skids to push her
> in and pull her out.
Hi Andy, good luck with the AS29. I see the web-site is still up,
and she looks a fine boat.
I shared a couple of emails with Matt regarding his Navigator, and
was very sorry to hear of his passing, when the new owners, Ben and
Chris contacted me. Recent emails from me, to them, re Navigator
details (which I am also building), have gone unanswered. Do you
know if they are still around, or finishing Matt's boat?
Don B
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "and46y <and46y@y...>" <and46y@y...>
wrote:
and she looks a fine boat.
I shared a couple of emails with Matt regarding his Navigator, and
was very sorry to hear of his passing, when the new owners, Ben and
Chris contacted me. Recent emails from me, to them, re Navigator
details (which I am also building), have gone unanswered. Do you
know if they are still around, or finishing Matt's boat?
Don B
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "and46y <and46y@y...>" <and46y@y...>
wrote:
> Dear All, I am about to become the lucky new caretaker [won't saymissed
> owner,all my previous boats have owned me!] of the late,much
> Matt Nash's AS29 LEYENDA which many of you have probably viewed inLiving
> various publications or on his site.
> The craft is in perfect condition and built exactly to plan.
> in her is like being in a piece of functional fine furniture.There
> cannot be a more perfect craft for shallow tropical coasts whereand
> charts are unreliable and no Coastguard exists.
> The ability to fit her into a shipping container and unload at
> Seattle or any other cruising grounds I have previously visited
> loved opens up the chance for a long and busy retirement. Matt andI
> often sat on board discussing this but sadly he will now only signon
> in spirit for this voyage. You may see her pass by some day.Please
> wave! Kind Regards Andy Wilson
--- "Norm Blitch" <normblitch@m...> wrote:
If so,
I have another thing to dream about...
Certainly there is not much room to
spare in width or height.
You might need to be clever with
grease or UHMW skids to push her
in and pull her out.
> Typically, ISO containers comeAnd...does an AS29 fit?
> in two heights; 8' and 8'6....
If so,
I have another thing to dream about...
Certainly there is not much room to
spare in width or height.
You might need to be clever with
grease or UHMW skids to push her
in and pull her out.
Typically, ISO containers come in two heights; 8' and 8'6....Flat Rack
containers are used for over-high loads...
Norm
containers are used for over-high loads...
Norm
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Ryan" <david@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [bolger] AS29 LEYENDA
> >Andy,
> >you mention an AS29 fits into a shipping container - are you sure?
> >whats with the mast tabernacle? I seem to recall a container is
> >barely 7 ft high. (2.2m??)
> >
>
> I build a website for a shipping container oriented business a few
> years ago. If memory serves, there's a tall version. Don't know how
> tall.
>Andy,I build a website for a shipping container oriented business a few
>you mention an AS29 fits into a shipping container - are you sure?
>whats with the mast tabernacle? I seem to recall a container is
>barely 7 ft high. (2.2m??)
>
years ago. If memory serves, there's a tall version. Don't know how
tall.
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Andy,
you mention an AS29 fits into a shipping container - are you sure?
whats with the mast tabernacle? I seem to recall a container is
barely 7 ft high. (2.2m??)
this would indeed be wonderful - I have pondered a container-
shipable craft for quite some time. never thought it might be sitting
right under my nose!
hannes
you mention an AS29 fits into a shipping container - are you sure?
whats with the mast tabernacle? I seem to recall a container is
barely 7 ft high. (2.2m??)
this would indeed be wonderful - I have pondered a container-
shipable craft for quite some time. never thought it might be sitting
right under my nose!
hannes
Dear All, I am about to become the lucky new caretaker [won't say
owner,all my previous boats have owned me!] of the late,much missed
Matt Nash's AS29 LEYENDA which many of you have probably viewed in
various publications or on his site.
The craft is in perfect condition and built exactly to plan. Living
in her is like being in a piece of functional fine furniture. There
cannot be a more perfect craft for shallow tropical coasts where
charts are unreliable and no Coastguard exists.
The ability to fit her into a shipping container and unload at
Seattle or any other cruising grounds I have previously visited and
loved opens up the chance for a long and busy retirement. Matt and I
often sat on board discussing this but sadly he will now only sign on
in spirit for this voyage. You may see her pass by some day. Please
wave! Kind Regards Andy Wilson
owner,all my previous boats have owned me!] of the late,much missed
Matt Nash's AS29 LEYENDA which many of you have probably viewed in
various publications or on his site.
The craft is in perfect condition and built exactly to plan. Living
in her is like being in a piece of functional fine furniture. There
cannot be a more perfect craft for shallow tropical coasts where
charts are unreliable and no Coastguard exists.
The ability to fit her into a shipping container and unload at
Seattle or any other cruising grounds I have previously visited and
loved opens up the chance for a long and busy retirement. Matt and I
often sat on board discussing this but sadly he will now only sign on
in spirit for this voyage. You may see her pass by some day. Please
wave! Kind Regards Andy Wilson