Re: [bolger] Re: New Marine equiptment from Briggs & Stratton
I've been told these new diesel have pilot injectors. Something to do with
pre-injecting the cyclinder with a tiny charge of fuel prior before hitting
top dead center which does a lot to stop severe vibrations and the reduces
the typical knock that diesels have. It also eliminates the preheaters for
cold starts.
You can really tell a difference when these new diesel running. I've been
around a couple generators running with this new pilot injection system and
they are amazingly quiet.
Jeff
pre-injecting the cyclinder with a tiny charge of fuel prior before hitting
top dead center which does a lot to stop severe vibrations and the reduces
the typical knock that diesels have. It also eliminates the preheaters for
cold starts.
You can really tell a difference when these new diesel running. I've been
around a couple generators running with this new pilot injection system and
they are amazingly quiet.
Jeff
Still no word on transmissions for the Briggs/Daihatsu. Anyone know
of anything?
of anything?
H.J., from what I have read and made calls on it seems that Briggs
bought patent rights from Daihatsu and are building it to have
interchangeable parts except the fuel pump and injectors that had to
be modified to meet our current EPA standards for them. They claim
they don't vibrate like other diesels and they are much lighter. The
have a good warranty with no mailing around the world for parts.
This looks like a motor for the Pilgrim. How are you going to change
the cabin? I sure would like to see those plans, to bad you live so
far away.
John
bought patent rights from Daihatsu and are building it to have
interchangeable parts except the fuel pump and injectors that had to
be modified to meet our current EPA standards for them. They claim
they don't vibrate like other diesels and they are much lighter. The
have a good warranty with no mailing around the world for parts.
This looks like a motor for the Pilgrim. How are you going to change
the cabin? I sure would like to see those plans, to bad you live so
far away.
John
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Harry James <welshman@p...> wrote:
> The China Diesels are reliable, the market here is small and based
on their
> price advantage over more advanced designs. Hardy has been selling
them now
> for 20-25 years and can provide good support. They have an
incredible amount
> of iron in them compared to a modern Yanmar or Kubota, they turn
slow, and I
> assume are no where near as fuel efficient. The Hardy/China diesel
and others
> like them are what are used throughout Asia and SE Asia for boats,
generator
> and tractors etc.. Price is part of it, but I suspect that long
term
> reliability plays a part. An old make or break from Nova Scotia ( I
haven't
> said the manufacturer because I can't spell Lundenburg) will still
run and
> you can almost carve out parts for it from blocks of brass or Iron.
I think
> those old fashioned diesels used in Asia are like that, mass is
substituted
> for technology to achieve reliability.
>
> John, is the Brigs and Stratton Vanguard manufactured by them or
are they
> just resellers? If resellers, who makes it?
>
>
>
> HJ
> >
> > China motor makes me nervous... but any other choices come to
mind?
> >
> > Bryan
> > seattle
> >
> >
The China Diesels are reliable, the market here is small and based on their
price advantage over more advanced designs. Hardy has been selling them now
for 20-25 years and can provide good support. They have an incredible amount
of iron in them compared to a modern Yanmar or Kubota, they turn slow, and I
assume are no where near as fuel efficient. The Hardy/China diesel and others
like them are what are used throughout Asia and SE Asia for boats, generator
and tractors etc.. Price is part of it, but I suspect that long term
reliability plays a part. An old make or break from Nova Scotia ( I haven't
said the manufacturer because I can't spell Lundenburg) will still run and
you can almost carve out parts for it from blocks of brass or Iron. I think
those old fashioned diesels used in Asia are like that, mass is substituted
for technology to achieve reliability.
John, is the Brigs and Stratton Vanguard manufactured by them or are they
just resellers? If resellers, who makes it?
HJ
price advantage over more advanced designs. Hardy has been selling them now
for 20-25 years and can provide good support. They have an incredible amount
of iron in them compared to a modern Yanmar or Kubota, they turn slow, and I
assume are no where near as fuel efficient. The Hardy/China diesel and others
like them are what are used throughout Asia and SE Asia for boats, generator
and tractors etc.. Price is part of it, but I suspect that long term
reliability plays a part. An old make or break from Nova Scotia ( I haven't
said the manufacturer because I can't spell Lundenburg) will still run and
you can almost carve out parts for it from blocks of brass or Iron. I think
those old fashioned diesels used in Asia are like that, mass is substituted
for technology to achieve reliability.
John, is the Brigs and Stratton Vanguard manufactured by them or are they
just resellers? If resellers, who makes it?
HJ
>
> China motor makes me nervous... but any other choices come to mind?
>
> Bryan
> seattle
>
>
Awesome!
I had a set of study plans for years drooling on them. I went with the Wyo
for draft and speed but I really like the Pilgram. If he'd had the outboard
version ready before I committed to the Wyo, just maybe.....
Jeff
I had a set of study plans for years drooling on them. I went with the Wyo
for draft and speed but I really like the Pilgram. If he'd had the outboard
version ready before I committed to the Wyo, just maybe.....
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Harry James" <welshman@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: [bolger] Re: New Marine equiptment from Briggs & Stratton
> Guess who has a set of Pilgrim plans?
>
> Thats why I have been looking at the China Diesels and the Vanguard.
>
> HJ
>
>
> >
> > The Vanguard also has a much better warranty and parts availability
> > than the china diesel. I'll bet they are more fuel efficient also. I
> > keep looking at a Pilgrim and for the price of 31 H.P. and a sail
> > backup I could cruise the west coast fairly inexpensivly(fish taco's
> > anyone).
> >
> > John
> >
>
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Guess who has a set of Pilgrim plans?
Thats why I have been looking at the China Diesels and the Vanguard.
HJ
Thats why I have been looking at the China Diesels and the Vanguard.
HJ
>
> The Vanguard also has a much better warranty and parts availability
> than the china diesel. I'll bet they are more fuel efficient also. I
> keep looking at a Pilgrim and for the price of 31 H.P. and a sail
> backup I could cruise the west coast fairly inexpensivly(fish taco's
> anyone).
>
> John
>
Can anyone help with a URL for a transmission that would work with
this Vanguard diesel?
Any thoughts on making the cooling work in a boat? The radiator
would work OK on a boat?
China motor makes me nervous... but any other choices come to mind?
Bryan
seattle
this Vanguard diesel?
Any thoughts on making the cooling work in a boat? The radiator
would work OK on a boat?
China motor makes me nervous... but any other choices come to mind?
Bryan
seattle
HJ, I found a couple of places in boats and harbors that have
rebuilt trans in that price range in just about any ratio that would
work with 31 H.P. These are 3 cylinders and come with everything
including a radiator. They claim they are smooth but I haven't set a
coffee cup on top of one yet. I can't abide by using a china diesel
but if you use the Caterpillar lock tight nothing will come loose and
that is a promise.
The Vanguard also has a much better warranty and parts availability
than the china diesel. I'll bet they are more fuel efficient also. I
keep looking at a Pilgrim and for the price of 31 H.P. and a sail
backup I could cruise the west coast fairly inexpensivly(fish taco's
anyone).
John
rebuilt trans in that price range in just about any ratio that would
work with 31 H.P. These are 3 cylinders and come with everything
including a radiator. They claim they are smooth but I haven't set a
coffee cup on top of one yet. I can't abide by using a china diesel
but if you use the Caterpillar lock tight nothing will come loose and
that is a promise.
The Vanguard also has a much better warranty and parts availability
than the china diesel. I'll bet they are more fuel efficient also. I
keep looking at a Pilgrim and for the price of 31 H.P. and a sail
backup I could cruise the west coast fairly inexpensivly(fish taco's
anyone).
John
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Harry James <welshman@p...> wrote:
> And once again tripped up by my shift to Linux and not having an
auto
> spellchecker.
>
> HJ
>
> On Friday 10 January 2003 10:27 am, you wrote:
> > John
> >
> > I had been looking at the Vanguard for a while. I have also been
looking at
> > the Hatz aircooled deisel.
> >
> > Can you give a little more info on transmission sources?
Cheapest I have
> > found was over $500 for a manual.
> >
> > Another cheap deisel is the china diesel at
> >
> >http://www.hardydiesel.com/mrn/Index.htm
> >
> > $2,500 for a 25hp diesel with transmision , heat exchanger and
instruments
> > plus free shipping. Not a light wieght at 1,000 lbs. There also
might be
> > slave labor issues, though you can't question that if you are
wearing
> > Nike's.
> >
> >
My understanding is that short of mechanical locks nothing stops the thing
from shaking apart. Most tried LockTite to no avail. To much shaken goin
on!
Jeff
from shaking apart. Most tried LockTite to no avail. To much shaken goin
on!
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Spelling" <richard@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [bolger] New Marine equiptment from Briggs & Stratton
> Sound's like a good use for LockTite...
> Which I use on just about everything on my boat and trailer, after almost
> loosing an expensive block one time.
>
Sound's like a good use for LockTite...
Which I use on just about everything on my boat and trailer, after almost
loosing an expensive block one time.
Which I use on just about everything on my boat and trailer, after almost
loosing an expensive block one time.
----- Original Message -----
From: "jeff" <boatbuilding@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: [bolger] New Marine equiptment from Briggs & Stratton
> After doing some research earlier on the China Diesels I found that most
> owners generally like them other than the fact that they are of an ancient
> design and shake like crazy. You absolutely have to check the nuts and
> bolts everywhere on the engine and tranny almost weekly or they'll shake
> apart. Lot's of China diesels have self destructed when an injector, head
> bolt, etc. has loosened. Not really an issue on the internal parts but
it's
> the external accessory stuff.
>
> Also, they say to change the oil often. The old design has a lot of ring
> bypass in it and the oil gets rank fast. No unlike any of the older
diesels
> of any make.
>
> If you can handle the vibration and are willing to keep an close eye on
the
> bolts and such, they are a decent setup, generally long lived and easy on
> the pocket book.
>
> Jeff
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Harry James" <welshman@...>
> To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 12:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [bolger] New Marine equiptment from Briggs & Stratton
>
>
> > John
> >
> > I had been looking at the Vanguard for a while. I have also been looking
> at
> > the Hatz aircooled deisel.
> >
> > Can you give a little more info on transmission sources? Cheapest I
have
> > found was over $500 for a manual.
> >
> > Another cheap deisel is the china diesel at
> >
> >http://www.hardydiesel.com/mrn/Index.htm
> >
> > $2,500 for a 25hp diesel with transmision , heat exchanger and
instruments
> > plus free shipping. Not a light wieght at 1,000 lbs. There also might be
> > slave labor issues, though you can't question that if you are wearing
> Nike's.
> >
> > HJ
> >
> >
> > On Friday 10 January 2003 09:52 am, you wrote:
> > > I was looking today for the best price on a Vanguard B&S diesel
> > > engine and noticed that they have upgraded from 26.5 to 31 H.P. self
> > > contained unit with radiator and ready to run. The lowest price now
> > > is $2,312.95 plus shipping. A transmission will run about $250 more
> > > from a discount marine supply house. They also have a 23.5 H.P. model
> > > for slightly less money but the same weight.
> > >
> > > Briggs & Stratton has also come out with a new 4 cycle 5 H.P.
> > > outboard motor that has forward and reverse plus a 3 gallon stand
> > > alone fuel tank. They are claiming it to be a very low cost
> > > alternative to import engines with low noise and low vibration. It
> > > sounds like a perfect low cost kicker motor for states that are
> > > demanding the use of cleaner 4 cycle outboards.
> > >
> > > All of these can be seen at
> > >http://www.briggsandstratton.com/bpp_splash.asp
> > >
> > > Go to the north American site then to new products for the outboard.
> > > The diesel engine can be found under Briggs & Stratton Engines/
> > > Search by brand/ Vanguard. I found the 2312.95 figure for the diesel
> > > by searching prices on the web. I haven't been able yet to find a
> > > price on the outboard but I'm sure it will be about 1/3 of what a
> > > Honda costs(my favorite). Briggs and Stratton engines are easy to
> > > work on and almost everyone owns one who has a lawn mower. The Diesel
> > > I think is a Daihatsu 3 cylinder sold and by warranted B&S. It should
> > > give excellent fuel economy and heater hoses can be run from it's
> > > closed system for warming the cabin.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Bolger rules!!!
> > > - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
> > > - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred'
posts
> > > - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts and <snip>
away
> > > - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA,
> > > 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349 - Unsubscribe:
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> > >
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> >
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> 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
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>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
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> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
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01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
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>
After doing some research earlier on the China Diesels I found that most
owners generally like them other than the fact that they are of an ancient
design and shake like crazy. You absolutely have to check the nuts and
bolts everywhere on the engine and tranny almost weekly or they'll shake
apart. Lot's of China diesels have self destructed when an injector, head
bolt, etc. has loosened. Not really an issue on the internal parts but it's
the external accessory stuff.
Also, they say to change the oil often. The old design has a lot of ring
bypass in it and the oil gets rank fast. No unlike any of the older diesels
of any make.
If you can handle the vibration and are willing to keep an close eye on the
bolts and such, they are a decent setup, generally long lived and easy on
the pocket book.
Jeff
owners generally like them other than the fact that they are of an ancient
design and shake like crazy. You absolutely have to check the nuts and
bolts everywhere on the engine and tranny almost weekly or they'll shake
apart. Lot's of China diesels have self destructed when an injector, head
bolt, etc. has loosened. Not really an issue on the internal parts but it's
the external accessory stuff.
Also, they say to change the oil often. The old design has a lot of ring
bypass in it and the oil gets rank fast. No unlike any of the older diesels
of any make.
If you can handle the vibration and are willing to keep an close eye on the
bolts and such, they are a decent setup, generally long lived and easy on
the pocket book.
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Harry James" <welshman@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: [bolger] New Marine equiptment from Briggs & Stratton
> John
>
> I had been looking at the Vanguard for a while. I have also been looking
at
> the Hatz aircooled deisel.
>
> Can you give a little more info on transmission sources? Cheapest I have
> found was over $500 for a manual.
>
> Another cheap deisel is the china diesel at
>
>http://www.hardydiesel.com/mrn/Index.htm
>
> $2,500 for a 25hp diesel with transmision , heat exchanger and instruments
> plus free shipping. Not a light wieght at 1,000 lbs. There also might be
> slave labor issues, though you can't question that if you are wearing
Nike's.
>
> HJ
>
>
> On Friday 10 January 2003 09:52 am, you wrote:
> > I was looking today for the best price on a Vanguard B&S diesel
> > engine and noticed that they have upgraded from 26.5 to 31 H.P. self
> > contained unit with radiator and ready to run. The lowest price now
> > is $2,312.95 plus shipping. A transmission will run about $250 more
> > from a discount marine supply house. They also have a 23.5 H.P. model
> > for slightly less money but the same weight.
> >
> > Briggs & Stratton has also come out with a new 4 cycle 5 H.P.
> > outboard motor that has forward and reverse plus a 3 gallon stand
> > alone fuel tank. They are claiming it to be a very low cost
> > alternative to import engines with low noise and low vibration. It
> > sounds like a perfect low cost kicker motor for states that are
> > demanding the use of cleaner 4 cycle outboards.
> >
> > All of these can be seen at
> >http://www.briggsandstratton.com/bpp_splash.asp
> >
> > Go to the north American site then to new products for the outboard.
> > The diesel engine can be found under Briggs & Stratton Engines/
> > Search by brand/ Vanguard. I found the 2312.95 figure for the diesel
> > by searching prices on the web. I haven't been able yet to find a
> > price on the outboard but I'm sure it will be about 1/3 of what a
> > Honda costs(my favorite). Briggs and Stratton engines are easy to
> > work on and almost everyone owns one who has a lawn mower. The Diesel
> > I think is a Daihatsu 3 cylinder sold and by warranted B&S. It should
> > give excellent fuel economy and heater hoses can be run from it's
> > closed system for warming the cabin.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> > Bolger rules!!!
> > - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
> > - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
> > - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts and <snip> away
> > - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA,
> > 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349 - Unsubscribe:
> >bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > - Open discussion:bolger_coffee_lounge-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
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>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
> - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts and <snip> away
> - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA,
01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
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>
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>
>
And once again tripped up by my shift to Linux and not having an auto
spellchecker.
HJ
spellchecker.
HJ
On Friday 10 January 2003 10:27 am, you wrote:
> John
>
> I had been looking at the Vanguard for a while. I have also been looking at
> the Hatz aircooled deisel.
>
> Can you give a little more info on transmission sources? Cheapest I have
> found was over $500 for a manual.
>
> Another cheap deisel is the china diesel at
>
>http://www.hardydiesel.com/mrn/Index.htm
>
> $2,500 for a 25hp diesel with transmision , heat exchanger and instruments
> plus free shipping. Not a light wieght at 1,000 lbs. There also might be
> slave labor issues, though you can't question that if you are wearing
> Nike's.
>
>
John
I had been looking at the Vanguard for a while. I have also been looking at
the Hatz aircooled deisel.
Can you give a little more info on transmission sources? Cheapest I have
found was over $500 for a manual.
Another cheap deisel is the china diesel at
http://www.hardydiesel.com/mrn/Index.htm
$2,500 for a 25hp diesel with transmision , heat exchanger and instruments
plus free shipping. Not a light wieght at 1,000 lbs. There also might be
slave labor issues, though you can't question that if you are wearing Nike's.
HJ
I had been looking at the Vanguard for a while. I have also been looking at
the Hatz aircooled deisel.
Can you give a little more info on transmission sources? Cheapest I have
found was over $500 for a manual.
Another cheap deisel is the china diesel at
http://www.hardydiesel.com/mrn/Index.htm
$2,500 for a 25hp diesel with transmision , heat exchanger and instruments
plus free shipping. Not a light wieght at 1,000 lbs. There also might be
slave labor issues, though you can't question that if you are wearing Nike's.
HJ
On Friday 10 January 2003 09:52 am, you wrote:
> I was looking today for the best price on a Vanguard B&S diesel
> engine and noticed that they have upgraded from 26.5 to 31 H.P. self
> contained unit with radiator and ready to run. The lowest price now
> is $2,312.95 plus shipping. A transmission will run about $250 more
> from a discount marine supply house. They also have a 23.5 H.P. model
> for slightly less money but the same weight.
>
> Briggs & Stratton has also come out with a new 4 cycle 5 H.P.
> outboard motor that has forward and reverse plus a 3 gallon stand
> alone fuel tank. They are claiming it to be a very low cost
> alternative to import engines with low noise and low vibration. It
> sounds like a perfect low cost kicker motor for states that are
> demanding the use of cleaner 4 cycle outboards.
>
> All of these can be seen at
>http://www.briggsandstratton.com/bpp_splash.asp
>
> Go to the north American site then to new products for the outboard.
> The diesel engine can be found under Briggs & Stratton Engines/
> Search by brand/ Vanguard. I found the 2312.95 figure for the diesel
> by searching prices on the web. I haven't been able yet to find a
> price on the outboard but I'm sure it will be about 1/3 of what a
> Honda costs(my favorite). Briggs and Stratton engines are easy to
> work on and almost everyone owns one who has a lawn mower. The Diesel
> I think is a Daihatsu 3 cylinder sold and by warranted B&S. It should
> give excellent fuel economy and heater hoses can be run from it's
> closed system for warming the cabin.
>
> John
>
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
> - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts and <snip> away
> - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA,
> 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349 - Unsubscribe:
>bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> - Open discussion:bolger_coffee_lounge-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject tohttp://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Hmm. Air cooled, judging by the guard rail/bar.
"designed for fresh water use"
"designed for fresh water use"
----- Original Message -----
From: <caj@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 12:52 PM
Subject: [bolger] New Marine equiptment from Briggs & Stratton
> Briggs & Stratton has also come out with a new 4 cycle 5 H.P.
> outboard motor that has forward and reverse plus a 3 gallon stand
> alone fuel tank. They are claiming it to be a very low cost
> alternative to import engines with low noise and low vibration. It
> sounds like a perfect low cost kicker motor for states that are
> demanding the use of cleaner 4 cycle outboards.
>
I was looking today for the best price on a Vanguard B&S diesel
engine and noticed that they have upgraded from 26.5 to 31 H.P. self
contained unit with radiator and ready to run. The lowest price now
is $2,312.95 plus shipping. A transmission will run about $250 more
from a discount marine supply house. They also have a 23.5 H.P. model
for slightly less money but the same weight.
Briggs & Stratton has also come out with a new 4 cycle 5 H.P.
outboard motor that has forward and reverse plus a 3 gallon stand
alone fuel tank. They are claiming it to be a very low cost
alternative to import engines with low noise and low vibration. It
sounds like a perfect low cost kicker motor for states that are
demanding the use of cleaner 4 cycle outboards.
All of these can be seen at
http://www.briggsandstratton.com/bpp_splash.asp
Go to the north American site then to new products for the outboard.
The diesel engine can be found under Briggs & Stratton Engines/
Search by brand/ Vanguard. I found the 2312.95 figure for the diesel
by searching prices on the web. I haven't been able yet to find a
price on the outboard but I'm sure it will be about 1/3 of what a
Honda costs(my favorite). Briggs and Stratton engines are easy to
work on and almost everyone owns one who has a lawn mower. The Diesel
I think is a Daihatsu 3 cylinder sold and by warranted B&S. It should
give excellent fuel economy and heater hoses can be run from it's
closed system for warming the cabin.
John
engine and noticed that they have upgraded from 26.5 to 31 H.P. self
contained unit with radiator and ready to run. The lowest price now
is $2,312.95 plus shipping. A transmission will run about $250 more
from a discount marine supply house. They also have a 23.5 H.P. model
for slightly less money but the same weight.
Briggs & Stratton has also come out with a new 4 cycle 5 H.P.
outboard motor that has forward and reverse plus a 3 gallon stand
alone fuel tank. They are claiming it to be a very low cost
alternative to import engines with low noise and low vibration. It
sounds like a perfect low cost kicker motor for states that are
demanding the use of cleaner 4 cycle outboards.
All of these can be seen at
http://www.briggsandstratton.com/bpp_splash.asp
Go to the north American site then to new products for the outboard.
The diesel engine can be found under Briggs & Stratton Engines/
Search by brand/ Vanguard. I found the 2312.95 figure for the diesel
by searching prices on the web. I haven't been able yet to find a
price on the outboard but I'm sure it will be about 1/3 of what a
Honda costs(my favorite). Briggs and Stratton engines are easy to
work on and almost everyone owns one who has a lawn mower. The Diesel
I think is a Daihatsu 3 cylinder sold and by warranted B&S. It should
give excellent fuel economy and heater hoses can be run from it's
closed system for warming the cabin.
John