Re: Topaz Spyder runabout
--- Harry James <welshman@p...> wrote:
that his collaborations with
SA over the last decade (plus)
have even improved the aesthetics.
> Give our hero a chance to combineI agree, and personally believe
> mhis artistic abilities to a more
> traditional end product and prepare
> to have your socks knocked off. The Topaz
> Spyder looks attractive
that his collaborations with
SA over the last decade (plus)
have even improved the aesthetics.
David
I have been reading and thinking about PCB since I bought Folding Schooner in
the late 70's. Though he disparages his talents as an artist I doubt if there
are any members of this group that will deny that he is a great one. His
ability see a three dimensional work of art and create in a 2 dimensional
format is wondrous. From anecdotes, like the raised sheer that Payson made
in the Gull picture and from his writing, he sees more than we can, he sees
the whole thing, and he can see the change that a 1/2" difference in
measurement will make in the over all aesthetic.
I had 2 cartopper's in the shop. I could not walk into the shop with out
looking at them because they demanded my eye. I could not look at them
without smiling, because what ever angle you looked at them from, they were
pleasing, the curves just right. The 2 dimensional drawings don't come close
to revealing how beautiful they are in 3. I know Mr Bolger saw it however,
and pushed and moved the lines a 1/2 or 1/4 inch here and there so that the
3d picture in his head was just right.
And then
He has another part of him will call the creative problem solver side. Part
of the problem is some of his solutions are jolting to an eye trained to
conventional nautical usage, and solutions.
I had the following sentence in the previous paragraph and then I pulled it
out
"He will ruthlessly suppress the aesthetic as much as necessary to effect a
solution to a nautical problem."
I decided this is not true, he ruthlessly suppresses conventional nautical
usage, than he applies his aesthetic to whatever creative solution he has
come up with. I think that this is why his square boats grow on us after a
while. We get used to the unconventionality and the visual balance in the
execution takes over. Some, like the Sneakeasy look good right out of the
box. I would never have said that a Martha Jane is a good looking from the
drawings, but having seen one on the water, I know that it is.
And finally
Give our hero a chance to combine his artistic abilities to a more
traditional end product and prepare to have your socks knocked off. The Topaz
Spyder looks attractive in the drawings, you would be able to sit in a deck
chair and spend a whole afternoon looking at the real thing tied to the dock.
HJ
I have been reading and thinking about PCB since I bought Folding Schooner in
the late 70's. Though he disparages his talents as an artist I doubt if there
are any members of this group that will deny that he is a great one. His
ability see a three dimensional work of art and create in a 2 dimensional
format is wondrous. From anecdotes, like the raised sheer that Payson made
in the Gull picture and from his writing, he sees more than we can, he sees
the whole thing, and he can see the change that a 1/2" difference in
measurement will make in the over all aesthetic.
I had 2 cartopper's in the shop. I could not walk into the shop with out
looking at them because they demanded my eye. I could not look at them
without smiling, because what ever angle you looked at them from, they were
pleasing, the curves just right. The 2 dimensional drawings don't come close
to revealing how beautiful they are in 3. I know Mr Bolger saw it however,
and pushed and moved the lines a 1/2 or 1/4 inch here and there so that the
3d picture in his head was just right.
And then
He has another part of him will call the creative problem solver side. Part
of the problem is some of his solutions are jolting to an eye trained to
conventional nautical usage, and solutions.
I had the following sentence in the previous paragraph and then I pulled it
out
"He will ruthlessly suppress the aesthetic as much as necessary to effect a
solution to a nautical problem."
I decided this is not true, he ruthlessly suppresses conventional nautical
usage, than he applies his aesthetic to whatever creative solution he has
come up with. I think that this is why his square boats grow on us after a
while. We get used to the unconventionality and the visual balance in the
execution takes over. Some, like the Sneakeasy look good right out of the
box. I would never have said that a Martha Jane is a good looking from the
drawings, but having seen one on the water, I know that it is.
And finally
Give our hero a chance to combine his artistic abilities to a more
traditional end product and prepare to have your socks knocked off. The Topaz
Spyder looks attractive in the drawings, you would be able to sit in a deck
chair and spend a whole afternoon looking at the real thing tied to the dock.
HJ
> FBBB,
>
> How anyone can look at the Topaz Spyder (as well as many other of his
> designs,) and call PCB a "form follows function aesthetical brute" is
> absolutely beyond me.
>
> More likely, he's head-over-heals in love with what boats do and what
> boats look like, and has made a life's work trying to bring all that
> grace, beauty, function, and fun within reach of as many people as
> possible.
>
> YIBB,
>
> David
>
--- David Ryan <david@c...> wrote:
"Any small shop builder could produce
[the Spyder] without the retro methods
and six digit price tag pallatable to
just a few. ... There is no virtue in
paying more than is really necessary.
It's even better to build something in
your backyard that most people would
assume is unaffordable."
This boat looks expensive but through
the skills of the designer actually
can be a bargain. Frugality.
> and call PCB a "form follows functionQuoting from the PB&F Spyder write up:
> aesthetical brute" is
> absolutely beyond me.
"Any small shop builder could produce
[the Spyder] without the retro methods
and six digit price tag pallatable to
just a few. ... There is no virtue in
paying more than is really necessary.
It's even better to build something in
your backyard that most people would
assume is unaffordable."
This boat looks expensive but through
the skills of the designer actually
can be a bargain. Frugality.
FBBB,
How anyone can look at the Topaz Spyder (as well as many other of his
designs,) and call PCB a "form follows function aesthetical brute" is
absolutely beyond me.
More likely, he's head-over-heals in love with what boats do and what
boats look like, and has made a life's work trying to bring all that
grace, beauty, function, and fun within reach of as many people as
possible.
YIBB,
David
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How anyone can look at the Topaz Spyder (as well as many other of his
designs,) and call PCB a "form follows function aesthetical brute" is
absolutely beyond me.
More likely, he's head-over-heals in love with what boats do and what
boats look like, and has made a life's work trying to bring all that
grace, beauty, function, and fun within reach of as many people as
possible.
YIBB,
David
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/Topaz%20Spyder/--
>should take you there. If you're not yet a member of Bolger2 you may
>have to join the group to access the files. If any difficulties go to
>eGroup "Bolger@", files, Topaz Spyder.
>
>Enjoy.
>
>Bruce Hector
>
>
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New York, New York 10036
http://www.crumblingempire.com
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Office (212) 247-0296
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/Topaz%20Spyder/
should take you there. If you're not yet a member of Bolger2 you may
have to join the group to access the files. If any difficulties go to
eGroup "Bolger@", files, Topaz Spyder.
Enjoy.
Bruce Hector
should take you there. If you're not yet a member of Bolger2 you may
have to join the group to access the files. If any difficulties go to
eGroup "Bolger@", files, Topaz Spyder.
Enjoy.
Bruce Hector