Re: Proa Plans
> "proaboat <dadadata@f...>" wrote:At the risk of flogging a dead horse...
> Very Bolgeresque, flat bottom, ...
IMO, 'flat bottom' does not equal 'Bolgeresque'
[To me, at least,] 'Bolgeresque' encompasses a boat design
intangible, coming from PCB's lifetime of free thinking
trial and error, and study and practice, and above all the
willingness to question conventional wisdom.
Defining the word 'Bolgeresque' is as hard as
defining the word 'art'.
It depends on the eye of the beholder, I guess.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "proaboat <dadadata@f...>"
<dadadata@f...> wrote:
spot, but the boat isn't very capable, with essentially the sailing
comfort of a Hobie, and the accommodations of a coffin. Pacific
proas require some weight to windward, and in this case it is the
crew. Wet ride. I can't really see myself enjoying cruising in a
wet suit, and then trying to get in and out of that suit in a cramped
cabin. There are certainly places for this kind of thing, but they
strike me to be the kind of thing I might occasionaly enjoy, but not
as a steady diet. Cruising World had an article about sailing the
Maine Island Trail in a very wet sport-cat, a sort of extreme sports
deal.
Also while the boat is plywood, it appears complex in that regard.
I think a better bet, unless one wants a daysailor with overnight
accommodations, is:
http://www.zahnisers.com/zcrb/jzero/
http://www.wingo.com/proa/brown/jzero78.html
This boat is pretty simple, though inevitably larger, and has some
fair cruising success. There aren't plans, but I think it could be
worked out these days with all the info that abounds.
The only other proa with plans in the works, is the Harryproa.com.
This seems like the best current concept, but it remains somewhat
unproven. I think we will know this year, with several entering
charter use, and others under construction. This boat is an
intriguing combination of sophisticated ideas, simply and cheaply
executed. Life is changing, and the Harryproa guys are taking
advantage. With carbon fiber weight for weight the same price as
sitka spruce (yeah, you read that right) shouldn't we see a few new
ideas?
<dadadata@f...> wrote:
> A couple yrs back I posted some in-progress pix of John Harris'sAlso reviewed in Wooden Boat. I very nearly ordered them on the
> proa MBULI. Very Bolgeresque, flat bottom, 20ft proa.
>
> For anyone who hasn't heard, plans are now available through
> Ches Light Craft (www.clcboats.com).
>
> Cheers -- COD
spot, but the boat isn't very capable, with essentially the sailing
comfort of a Hobie, and the accommodations of a coffin. Pacific
proas require some weight to windward, and in this case it is the
crew. Wet ride. I can't really see myself enjoying cruising in a
wet suit, and then trying to get in and out of that suit in a cramped
cabin. There are certainly places for this kind of thing, but they
strike me to be the kind of thing I might occasionaly enjoy, but not
as a steady diet. Cruising World had an article about sailing the
Maine Island Trail in a very wet sport-cat, a sort of extreme sports
deal.
Also while the boat is plywood, it appears complex in that regard.
I think a better bet, unless one wants a daysailor with overnight
accommodations, is:
http://www.zahnisers.com/zcrb/jzero/
http://www.wingo.com/proa/brown/jzero78.html
This boat is pretty simple, though inevitably larger, and has some
fair cruising success. There aren't plans, but I think it could be
worked out these days with all the info that abounds.
The only other proa with plans in the works, is the Harryproa.com.
This seems like the best current concept, but it remains somewhat
unproven. I think we will know this year, with several entering
charter use, and others under construction. This boat is an
intriguing combination of sophisticated ideas, simply and cheaply
executed. Life is changing, and the Harryproa guys are taking
advantage. With carbon fiber weight for weight the same price as
sitka spruce (yeah, you read that right) shouldn't we see a few new
ideas?
A couple yrs back I posted some in-progress pix of John Harris's
proa MBULI. Very Bolgeresque, flat bottom, 20ft proa.
For anyone who hasn't heard, plans are now available through
Ches Light Craft (www.clcboats.com).
Cheers -- COD
proa MBULI. Very Bolgeresque, flat bottom, 20ft proa.
For anyone who hasn't heard, plans are now available through
Ches Light Craft (www.clcboats.com).
Cheers -- COD