Re: Boat-trailer width limits?
I have had to make plans for delivery of large pieces of machinery
from coast to coast and most states only really hassle anything over
8'6" and I'll bet most police would turn a blind eye to an 8'4" boat
as long as their where no other flagrant safety violations visible
such as a mast reaching over 3' past the end of everything without a
three light bar. I have a loom with a board for break lights and also
it carries a plug in for a three light bar for my catamarans. I made
i5t so I can switch from boat trailer to boat trailer with out
problems. The best part is I can check it from the drivers door
before I put it on any boat. I'm digressing. What police look for are
safety chains the level look of the towing vehicle and proper lights.
Your Idea sounds good but what does the designer say about your
intended mods? I am positive that if your trailer and pull vehicle
are in tip-top shape you won't have a problem. If they do want to
check your width they need someone to hold the end of the tape and I
think I could fudge a few inches without any problem. Good luck with
your choice, I'll have to look those boats up to see what I am
missing.
John
from coast to coast and most states only really hassle anything over
8'6" and I'll bet most police would turn a blind eye to an 8'4" boat
as long as their where no other flagrant safety violations visible
such as a mast reaching over 3' past the end of everything without a
three light bar. I have a loom with a board for break lights and also
it carries a plug in for a three light bar for my catamarans. I made
i5t so I can switch from boat trailer to boat trailer with out
problems. The best part is I can check it from the drivers door
before I put it on any boat. I'm digressing. What police look for are
safety chains the level look of the towing vehicle and proper lights.
Your Idea sounds good but what does the designer say about your
intended mods? I am positive that if your trailer and pull vehicle
are in tip-top shape you won't have a problem. If they do want to
check your width they need someone to hold the end of the tape and I
think I could fudge a few inches without any problem. Good luck with
your choice, I'll have to look those boats up to see what I am
missing.
John
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, David Ryan <david@c...> wrote:
>
> >I'm currently thinking of making a bit of a hybrid -- adopting the
> >Michalak-style pivoting leeboard to clear out the cabin interior of
> >that enormous CB trunk, then adding water-ballast tanks (a la
> >Michalak's Caprice) port and starboard, keeping them low and wide,
> >placing bunks/settees on top of them.
> >
> >This would allow a big boat that would weigh about 2500 lbs.
>
> This sounds a lot like a Jockem's Schooner, but given your taste
for
> the New Haven and Ohio sharpies I can see how the Jochem's might
not
> appeal to you. The desire for Bolger's buildablity and ergonomics
> with a more a traditional, majestic look is what first got me
excited
> about the I60.
>
> >I think the I-60 is out of my league right now, as I'm looking for
> >something I can set up a bit more quickly, for repeated weekend
trips
> >to different locations. If I can rig the sharpie's masts on
> >tabernacles, it might just all work.
>
> Actually, the I60 was first conceived as a quick set-up
> daysailer/racer/weekender. I hope we haven't lost too much of that
in
> the reconception as a family cruiser. I'm sure the 32' tabernacle
> masts on the I60 be easier to handle than the Ohio's 40 footers,
even
> if your tabernacle design is as good as Bolger's (He's had a few
> successes in that department.) The keel won't be cheap to make, but
> it should be fast to deploy. I'd bet we'll be able to go from on
the
> trailer to underway in an hour or less. Reversing the process
> shouldn't be any harder. Considering I rarely see a 25' center
> console do it in less than 30 minutes, an hour is not too bad.
>
> Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to convince you to build an I60.
> At 5 tons that's A LOT more to drag around than a more modest
> water-ballasted sharpie. I bet you could build a very nice boat for
> what I'm planning to spend on keel fabrication alone!
>
> But I would say this, wait till you can have a look at the finished
> I60 plans. Folded up and put away, (where most boats spend most of
> their time) she'll be 6 feet shorter than a New Haven sharpie and
10
> feet shorter than an Ohio sharpie. Unfolded and underway there'd be
> no comparison!
>
> YIBB,
>
> David
> --
>
> C.E.P.
> 415 W.46th Street
> New York, New York 10036
>http://www.crumblingempire.com
> Mobile (646) 325-8325
> Office (212) 247-0296
>I'm currently thinking of making a bit of a hybrid -- adopting theThis sounds a lot like a Jockem's Schooner, but given your taste for
>Michalak-style pivoting leeboard to clear out the cabin interior of
>that enormous CB trunk, then adding water-ballast tanks (a la
>Michalak's Caprice) port and starboard, keeping them low and wide,
>placing bunks/settees on top of them.
>
>This would allow a big boat that would weigh about 2500 lbs.
the New Haven and Ohio sharpies I can see how the Jochem's might not
appeal to you. The desire for Bolger's buildablity and ergonomics
with a more a traditional, majestic look is what first got me excited
about the I60.
>I think the I-60 is out of my league right now, as I'm looking forActually, the I60 was first conceived as a quick set-up
>something I can set up a bit more quickly, for repeated weekend trips
>to different locations. If I can rig the sharpie's masts on
>tabernacles, it might just all work.
daysailer/racer/weekender. I hope we haven't lost too much of that in
the reconception as a family cruiser. I'm sure the 32' tabernacle
masts on the I60 be easier to handle than the Ohio's 40 footers, even
if your tabernacle design is as good as Bolger's (He's had a few
successes in that department.) The keel won't be cheap to make, but
it should be fast to deploy. I'd bet we'll be able to go from on the
trailer to underway in an hour or less. Reversing the process
shouldn't be any harder. Considering I rarely see a 25' center
console do it in less than 30 minutes, an hour is not too bad.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to convince you to build an I60.
At 5 tons that's A LOT more to drag around than a more modest
water-ballasted sharpie. I bet you could build a very nice boat for
what I'm planning to spend on keel fabrication alone!
But I would say this, wait till you can have a look at the finished
I60 plans. Folded up and put away, (where most boats spend most of
their time) she'll be 6 feet shorter than a New Haven sharpie and 10
feet shorter than an Ohio sharpie. Unfolded and underway there'd be
no comparison!
YIBB,
David
--
C.E.P.
415 W.46th Street
New York, New York 10036
http://www.crumblingempire.com
Mobile (646) 325-8325
Office (212) 247-0296
Boatus.com has a web page listing state by state requirements for
trailering boats, included in some states are contact phone munbers.
http://www.boatus.com/towing/towlaw.htm
For New York they list;
Wide Trailer Permit Phone Number: 518-457-1155
NY STR: 518-457-4018
NYC: 718-433-3329
NYTH: 518-471-4263
Nyth Strc: 518-471-4263
Newburg: 914-831-3700
Buffalo: 716-851-5384
GarthAB wrote:
trailering boats, included in some states are contact phone munbers.
http://www.boatus.com/towing/towlaw.htm
For New York they list;
Wide Trailer Permit Phone Number: 518-457-1155
NY STR: 518-457-4018
NYC: 718-433-3329
NYTH: 518-471-4263
Nyth Strc: 518-471-4263
Newburg: 914-831-3700
Buffalo: 716-851-5384
GarthAB wrote:
> Can anyone shed light on this for me? Some states have a maximum[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> trailer-boat width limit of 8 feet 6 inches (102"), and some states
> have a limit of 8' (96"), with 102" allowed on "designated roads."
> Reuel Parker mentions in the "Sharpie Book" that the limit on federal
> highways is 8'6".
>
> I found a chart that lays it all out for each state and Canadian
> province, on an RV site:
>http://www.rvda.bc.ca/rvlawcan.htm
>
> So (if you live in a 96/102 state, like New York) how do you know
> what roads allow the 102"-wide boats? How do you get TO the
> designated roads if you don't live on one? What a crazy system.
>
> Anyway -- I ask because I'm looking seriously at Parker's North
> Carolina Sharpie, which is 32'10" long and 8'4" wide. (With 11"
> draft!) I'd like all that width for stability, plus extra volume for
> interior accommodations. His only other design I'd try is the 35' New
> Haven Sharpie -- a real beauty, but only 7' wide. I'd prefer the
> wider boat, at the expense of sleekness and speed.
>
> I'm currently thinking of making a bit of a hybrid -- adopting the
> Michalak-style pivoting leeboard to clear out the cabin interior of
> that enormous CB trunk, then adding water-ballast tanks (a la
> Michalak's Caprice) port and starboard, keeping them low and wide,
> placing bunks/settees on top of them.
>
> This would allow a big boat that would weigh about 2500 lbs. (I
> think), so I could tow it with a smaller SUV or car. I'd enlarge the
> cabin a bit from what's shown in Parker's book, stretching it forward
> and raising the roof half a foot or so, making good roomy
> accommodations for me, my wife, and two girls. I've even pondered a
> further modification -- making the cabin a pop-top, so you could get
> standing headroom when at anchor.
>
> I think the I-60 is out of my league right now, as I'm looking for
> something I can set up a bit more quickly, for repeated weekend trips
> to different locations. If I can rig the sharpie's masts on
> tabernacles, it might just all work.
>
> Anyway -- I digress, as usual. Anyone know about those width limits?
>
> All best,
> Garth
>
Can anyone shed light on this for me? Some states have a maximum
trailer-boat width limit of 8 feet 6 inches (102"), and some states
have a limit of 8' (96"), with 102" allowed on "designated roads."
Reuel Parker mentions in the "Sharpie Book" that the limit on federal
highways is 8'6".
I found a chart that lays it all out for each state and Canadian
province, on an RV site:
http://www.rvda.bc.ca/rvlawcan.htm
So (if you live in a 96/102 state, like New York) how do you know
what roads allow the 102"-wide boats? How do you get TO the
designated roads if you don't live on one? What a crazy system.
Anyway -- I ask because I'm looking seriously at Parker's North
Carolina Sharpie, which is 32'10" long and 8'4" wide. (With 11"
draft!) I'd like all that width for stability, plus extra volume for
interior accommodations. His only other design I'd try is the 35' New
Haven Sharpie -- a real beauty, but only 7' wide. I'd prefer the
wider boat, at the expense of sleekness and speed.
I'm currently thinking of making a bit of a hybrid -- adopting the
Michalak-style pivoting leeboard to clear out the cabin interior of
that enormous CB trunk, then adding water-ballast tanks (a la
Michalak's Caprice) port and starboard, keeping them low and wide,
placing bunks/settees on top of them.
This would allow a big boat that would weigh about 2500 lbs. (I
think), so I could tow it with a smaller SUV or car. I'd enlarge the
cabin a bit from what's shown in Parker's book, stretching it forward
and raising the roof half a foot or so, making good roomy
accommodations for me, my wife, and two girls. I've even pondered a
further modification -- making the cabin a pop-top, so you could get
standing headroom when at anchor.
I think the I-60 is out of my league right now, as I'm looking for
something I can set up a bit more quickly, for repeated weekend trips
to different locations. If I can rig the sharpie's masts on
tabernacles, it might just all work.
Anyway -- I digress, as usual. Anyone know about those width limits?
All best,
Garth
trailer-boat width limit of 8 feet 6 inches (102"), and some states
have a limit of 8' (96"), with 102" allowed on "designated roads."
Reuel Parker mentions in the "Sharpie Book" that the limit on federal
highways is 8'6".
I found a chart that lays it all out for each state and Canadian
province, on an RV site:
http://www.rvda.bc.ca/rvlawcan.htm
So (if you live in a 96/102 state, like New York) how do you know
what roads allow the 102"-wide boats? How do you get TO the
designated roads if you don't live on one? What a crazy system.
Anyway -- I ask because I'm looking seriously at Parker's North
Carolina Sharpie, which is 32'10" long and 8'4" wide. (With 11"
draft!) I'd like all that width for stability, plus extra volume for
interior accommodations. His only other design I'd try is the 35' New
Haven Sharpie -- a real beauty, but only 7' wide. I'd prefer the
wider boat, at the expense of sleekness and speed.
I'm currently thinking of making a bit of a hybrid -- adopting the
Michalak-style pivoting leeboard to clear out the cabin interior of
that enormous CB trunk, then adding water-ballast tanks (a la
Michalak's Caprice) port and starboard, keeping them low and wide,
placing bunks/settees on top of them.
This would allow a big boat that would weigh about 2500 lbs. (I
think), so I could tow it with a smaller SUV or car. I'd enlarge the
cabin a bit from what's shown in Parker's book, stretching it forward
and raising the roof half a foot or so, making good roomy
accommodations for me, my wife, and two girls. I've even pondered a
further modification -- making the cabin a pop-top, so you could get
standing headroom when at anchor.
I think the I-60 is out of my league right now, as I'm looking for
something I can set up a bit more quickly, for repeated weekend trips
to different locations. If I can rig the sharpie's masts on
tabernacles, it might just all work.
Anyway -- I digress, as usual. Anyone know about those width limits?
All best,
Garth