[bolger] Re: [ Better Question: Cedar and Bolger Boats]
I have to concur with Patrick on the sailing Windsprint. It's really pretty
docile as long as you treat it with respect. When I first built mine I had a
terrible time getting caught in irons when tacking. Eventually I figured out
how to get her through stays reliably in all conditions. But it was an
intuitive process, and I could not for the life of me tell what I was doing
wrong when I started or how I corrected it! Is this what they call
experience? Nah, I'm too old to learn anything new... ;-)
John Bell (former Windsprint owner/builder)
Kennesaw, GA
jmbell@...
http://jmbell.home.mindspring.com
docile as long as you treat it with respect. When I first built mine I had a
terrible time getting caught in irons when tacking. Eventually I figured out
how to get her through stays reliably in all conditions. But it was an
intuitive process, and I could not for the life of me tell what I was doing
wrong when I started or how I corrected it! Is this what they call
experience? Nah, I'm too old to learn anything new... ;-)
John Bell (former Windsprint owner/builder)
Kennesaw, GA
jmbell@...
http://jmbell.home.mindspring.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Patrick Crockett <pcrockett@...>
To: <bolger@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 3:13 PM
Subject: [bolger] Re: [ Better Question: Cedar and Bolger Boats]
> Kathleen:
>
> Very nice to encounter a female type boat builder -- a very rare
> species.
> One thing you will find a joy in your Windsprint is jibing. Very
> gentle, even in fairly high wind.
> I find that the Windsprint is very unforgiving of inattention -- the
> fair spot between sail stalled and sail luffing is vary narrow; and when
> sailing on the wind, the difference between the sail flapping and water
> coming over the gunwales (in large volume) is slight (less than a second).
> Dipping your boom end into the water when reaching is a definite no-no
> (apparent source of my first capsize). Downwind, keep most of the crew
> weight as far back as possible (didn't capsize that time, but we did fill
> with water). Be sure to put in the floatation. Otherwise the boat floats
> with the midships gunwales under water and the stem and stern poking out
> (when full of water).
> If you sail single-handed you will want both designed sets of reef
> points in all but the lightest of breezes -- unless you put in some sort
of
> hiking straps (maybe).
> The Windsprint really flies downwind, and moves at a pretty good clip
> upwind, too. You'll have fun.
>
> Patrick
>
> > Does anyone who has build a Windsprint have a sailing
> > tips
>
>
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Kathleen:
Very nice to encounter a female type boat builder -- a very rare
species.
One thing you will find a joy in your Windsprint is jibing. Very
gentle, even in fairly high wind.
I find that the Windsprint is very unforgiving of inattention -- the
fair spot between sail stalled and sail luffing is vary narrow; and when
sailing on the wind, the difference between the sail flapping and water
coming over the gunwales (in large volume) is slight (less than a second).
Dipping your boom end into the water when reaching is a definite no-no
(apparent source of my first capsize). Downwind, keep most of the crew
weight as far back as possible (didn't capsize that time, but we did fill
with water). Be sure to put in the floatation. Otherwise the boat floats
with the midships gunwales under water and the stem and stern poking out
(when full of water).
If you sail single-handed you will want both designed sets of reef
points in all but the lightest of breezes -- unless you put in some sort of
hiking straps (maybe).
The Windsprint really flies downwind, and moves at a pretty good clip
upwind, too. You'll have fun.
Patrick
Very nice to encounter a female type boat builder -- a very rare
species.
One thing you will find a joy in your Windsprint is jibing. Very
gentle, even in fairly high wind.
I find that the Windsprint is very unforgiving of inattention -- the
fair spot between sail stalled and sail luffing is vary narrow; and when
sailing on the wind, the difference between the sail flapping and water
coming over the gunwales (in large volume) is slight (less than a second).
Dipping your boom end into the water when reaching is a definite no-no
(apparent source of my first capsize). Downwind, keep most of the crew
weight as far back as possible (didn't capsize that time, but we did fill
with water). Be sure to put in the floatation. Otherwise the boat floats
with the midships gunwales under water and the stem and stern poking out
(when full of water).
If you sail single-handed you will want both designed sets of reef
points in all but the lightest of breezes -- unless you put in some sort of
hiking straps (maybe).
The Windsprint really flies downwind, and moves at a pretty good clip
upwind, too. You'll have fun.
Patrick
> Does anyone who has build a Windsprint have a sailing
> tips
>I can only tell you about the Windsprint's little sister, Teal.
>Does anyone who has build a Windsprint have a sailing
>tips. I've mostly sailed stuff like Sailfish and GP14s
>and I'd like to minimize looking like an idiot when I
>have the launching party.
I sailed a sabot and laser a lot growning up and developed a very
instinctual roll-tack. This DOES NOT WORK in the very stiff Teal,
and I ended up in irons a lot my first hour out.
On the other hand, the boat is so stable, you can just stand up and
back wind the sail to get out of irons, then sail it like a
windsurfer till you want to sit down again.
I suspect the same is true of the Windsprint.
YIBB,
David Ryan
Minister of Information and Culture
Crumbling Empire Productions
(212) 247-0296
Mike-
I'm building a Windsprint and I've used cedar
for mast, spars, and thwarts. I hope to launch
in late spring. I'll tell the list how it worked
out. It is soft but epoxy did harden the surface
noticably and it is a pleasure to work with.
Does anyone who has build a Windsprint have a sailing
tips. I've mostly sailed stuff like Sailfish and GP14s
and I'd like to minimize looking like an idiot when I
have the launching party.
Thanks in advance.
Kathleen O'Donnell
"Chuck Leinweber" <chuck@...> wrote:
The biggest drawback to cedar is its lack of abrasion resistance. Use
anything else for gunwales. You could use it for masts, but I would cover
it with glass. Spars sounds like the best use, other than strip planking,
of course, which is what it was invented for.
Chuck Leinweber
Duckworks Magazine
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com
I'm building a Windsprint and I've used cedar
for mast, spars, and thwarts. I hope to launch
in late spring. I'll tell the list how it worked
out. It is soft but epoxy did harden the surface
noticably and it is a pleasure to work with.
Does anyone who has build a Windsprint have a sailing
tips. I've mostly sailed stuff like Sailfish and GP14s
and I'd like to minimize looking like an idiot when I
have the launching party.
Thanks in advance.
Kathleen O'Donnell
"Chuck Leinweber" <chuck@...> wrote:
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The biggest drawback to cedar is its lack of abrasion resistance. Use
anything else for gunwales. You could use it for masts, but I would cover
it with glass. Spars sounds like the best use, other than strip planking,
of course, which is what it was invented for.
Chuck Leinweber
Duckworks Magazine
http://www.duckworksmagazine.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <Teakdeck@...>
To: <Teakdeck@...>; <dhodges@...>; <bolger@egroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 5:04 PM
Subject: [bolger] Better Question: Cedar and Bolger Boats
>
> In a message dated 2/13/00 I wrote:
>
> << I am in possession of a beautiful piece of cedar 2X4X16'. Can I use it
for
> spars, mast, gunwales, anything? >>
>
> I got a number of answers which showed clearly how imprecise the question
> was! What I was really trying to get at, is cedar an ok wood to use for
> "spars, mast, gunwales, anything" or is it too soft, too flexible, too
> whatever? Will it break easily, or flex too much, or not glue up properly?
I
> never hear people in our group here talk about cedar. Is it normally too
> expensive?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mike
>
>
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