Re: WoodenBoat Magazine Value
I don't find it as useful as it was. The price has got way out of
hand also.
hand also.
I have every issue of Wooden Boat for the past 18 years. However, my
favorite is the parody by Nat Philbrick in his early days called
Woodent Float.
Happy Boating
David Jost
favorite is the parody by Nat Philbrick in his early days called
Woodent Float.
Happy Boating
David Jost
I think I have all the Payson books. I like them, but if you build
with epoxy, and paint with latex or LPU, then the critical info isn't
in his books, other than the plans that is. A lot of the plywood
info is unuseable these days, at least where I live.
One thing about his books is that they don't begin to give a fair
impresion of how nicely made his boats are. Some of his stories
start with little bits on how he made this boat, and then someone
happened buy and had to have it, before he could get it in the
water. Never quite understood why that was so... until I rowed one
at the WB school. He finishes them beautifuly.
My favorite Payson article is the story of how he built his shop,
which is in WB.
with epoxy, and paint with latex or LPU, then the critical info isn't
in his books, other than the plans that is. A lot of the plywood
info is unuseable these days, at least where I live.
One thing about his books is that they don't begin to give a fair
impresion of how nicely made his boats are. Some of his stories
start with little bits on how he made this boat, and then someone
happened buy and had to have it, before he could get it in the
water. Never quite understood why that was so... until I rowed one
at the WB school. He finishes them beautifuly.
My favorite Payson article is the story of how he built his shop,
which is in WB.
but I never really
information at all. Once you start to do your own thing, make your
own designs, or change around structure, WB has been great. But
droping the technical articles in favour of survey articles on using
cabinetmaking handplane techniques in the boatyard etc... doesn't get
you very far. They used to carry cutting edge article on multihulls,
cigarette boats, iceboats, Devlin, Gold Coast and so forth, and what
one learned from these articles was good info one could apply to
projects. I think the last time they had a cover story of that kind
was issue 110, been a long haul.
The problem these days is that there is too much information, which
is obviously great in certain respects, but makes choosing the best
source almost impossible, there are lots of alternatives to WB these
days. But I stick with it because it is an unfolding story, and
sometimes the parts I thought I didn't need grab me at a later date.
> learned anything that would help with the projects I was working on,The reality is to make a Teal, you need hardly any boatbuilding
> small plywood boats.
information at all. Once you start to do your own thing, make your
own designs, or change around structure, WB has been great. But
droping the technical articles in favour of survey articles on using
cabinetmaking handplane techniques in the boatyard etc... doesn't get
you very far. They used to carry cutting edge article on multihulls,
cigarette boats, iceboats, Devlin, Gold Coast and so forth, and what
one learned from these articles was good info one could apply to
projects. I think the last time they had a cover story of that kind
was issue 110, been a long haul.
The problem these days is that there is too much information, which
is obviously great in certain respects, but makes choosing the best
source almost impossible, there are lots of alternatives to WB these
days. But I stick with it because it is an unfolding story, and
sometimes the parts I thought I didn't need grab me at a later date.
I used to subscribe, and I buy every issue. It is basic economics,
that the newstand issue is a much better value in Canada, because of
the postal delivery cost. I did end up missing one or two issues,
which was frustrating, and one or two issues got damaged, so overall
it was better to get them on the newstand. One might wait a little
longer than for a subscription delivery, but it isn't filled with
stock market tips, so what do I care.
I find the mag has fallen off a little. It is called Wooden Boat,
not Traditional Wooden boat. They used to carry a better blend of
the new and the old, pretty much all the new tech stuff is repetitive
small boat building projects. I love small boat stuff, but the Build
the Blah Blah articles are too formula for me.
I'm not sure what is up with the current blackout edition cover, and
it has perhaps the weakest layout of articles I have ever seen.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Michael C. Kelly" <mikelly@a...>
wrote:
that the newstand issue is a much better value in Canada, because of
the postal delivery cost. I did end up missing one or two issues,
which was frustrating, and one or two issues got damaged, so overall
it was better to get them on the newstand. One might wait a little
longer than for a subscription delivery, but it isn't filled with
stock market tips, so what do I care.
I find the mag has fallen off a little. It is called Wooden Boat,
not Traditional Wooden boat. They used to carry a better blend of
the new and the old, pretty much all the new tech stuff is repetitive
small boat building projects. I love small boat stuff, but the Build
the Blah Blah articles are too formula for me.
I'm not sure what is up with the current blackout edition cover, and
it has perhaps the weakest layout of articles I have ever seen.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Michael C. Kelly" <mikelly@a...>
wrote:
> This is a quick survey question.etc.)
> I've never subscribed to Woodenboat Magazine.
> I know it's popular for antique method buffs (caravel, strip plank
> and maybe I'll become one if I subscribe. (I love old circa 1930'swoody
> motor yachts - but am more into building a stitch and glue plywoodthat
> looks like an oldie).off in
> My question is purely about the economics of subscription.
>
> If you don't subscribe, but did, why did you stop ?
> If you do subscribe, has the investment of the subscription paid
> knowledge, methods, materials gained (where ignorance would havecost
> more) or in finding more cost effective ways of boat building?to
>
> I don't work for them. As an aspiring plywood builder, I'm trying
> spend my boat budget money the most effectively.
>
> Thanks!
> Mike
On Friday, March 7, 2003, at 09:00 AM, Brian Schmittling wrote:
hal
>Bingo!
> Now I browse issues at the bookstore and purchase a copy if it is of
> particular interest.
hal
I'd have to agree with the both of you..Another magazine that has
interest to me is the UK's version of wooden boat witch is called
(water craft) they yousally have a bit on small boats and have also
feature articles on bolger designs..biggest problem is the cost 70
bucks a year i believe,but its good reading in almost all issues..
blue.
interest to me is the UK's version of wooden boat witch is called
(water craft) they yousally have a bit on small boats and have also
feature articles on bolger designs..biggest problem is the cost 70
bucks a year i believe,but its good reading in almost all issues..
blue.
I miss Peter Spectre in Woodenboat. I thought it was an interesting
and funny column. The "boatyard news" type replacement section is not
as appealing.
I'm with the people who say, "buy it if there is an article of
particular interest" tho if you buy 4 issues a year you might as well
subscribe.
They keep soliciting me to sub to Maritime Life and Traditions, which
is kind of a National Geographic of boats. Not interesting except
ever 3rd or 4th issue.
However a subscription to Boatbuilder and MAIB together seems
unbeatable for interesting and practical boat stuff.
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and funny column. The "boatyard news" type replacement section is not
as appealing.
I'm with the people who say, "buy it if there is an article of
particular interest" tho if you buy 4 issues a year you might as well
subscribe.
They keep soliciting me to sub to Maritime Life and Traditions, which
is kind of a National Geographic of boats. Not interesting except
ever 3rd or 4th issue.
However a subscription to Boatbuilder and MAIB together seems
unbeatable for interesting and practical boat stuff.
--
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American Proas, the Bolger Boat Honor Roll,
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I subscribed to WoodenBoat for a fair number of years and then I took
a look at all of my subscriptions (actually the cost of all of my
subscriptions) and dropped all of them except for professional
journals and the like that come from memberships and MAIB which I
can't get in the magazine store. I figured I'd just look at the WB
issues on the rack and then buy only the ones that have enough
content to interest me. The net result is that I end up buying every
one anyway. I do wish that they would have more stuff on
little/simple boats but the magazine is first rate. As for
resubscribing, the trek to the mag shop provides a good break during
lunch hour.
The only magazine that I dropped and never bought another is
Scientific American. It just got dumbed down and lost its
objectivity. Hopefully WB will maintain its high standards for a long
time to come.
Steve Hansen
a look at all of my subscriptions (actually the cost of all of my
subscriptions) and dropped all of them except for professional
journals and the like that come from memberships and MAIB which I
can't get in the magazine store. I figured I'd just look at the WB
issues on the rack and then buy only the ones that have enough
content to interest me. The net result is that I end up buying every
one anyway. I do wish that they would have more stuff on
little/simple boats but the magazine is first rate. As for
resubscribing, the trek to the mag shop provides a good break during
lunch hour.
The only magazine that I dropped and never bought another is
Scientific American. It just got dumbed down and lost its
objectivity. Hopefully WB will maintain its high standards for a long
time to come.
Steve Hansen
It's boring to eat vanilla icecream every time.
Treat yourself now and then to triple chocolate, and don't feel
guilty.
DonB
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Michael C. Kelly" <mikelly@a...>
wrote:
Treat yourself now and then to triple chocolate, and don't feel
guilty.
DonB
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Michael C. Kelly" <mikelly@a...>
wrote:
> This is a quick survey question.etc.)
> I've never subscribed to Woodenboat Magazine.
> I know it's popular for antique method buffs (caravel, strip plank
> and maybe I'll become one if I subscribe. (I love old circa 1930'swoody
> motor yachts - but am more into building a stitch and glue plywoodthat
> looks like an oldie).off in
> My question is purely about the economics of subscription.
>
> If you don't subscribe, but did, why did you stop ?
> If you do subscribe, has the investment of the subscription paid
> knowledge, methods, materials gained (where ignorance would havecost
> more) or in finding more cost effective ways of boat building?to
>
> I don't work for them. As an aspiring plywood builder, I'm trying
> spend my boat budget money the most effectively.
>
> Thanks!
> Mike
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, David Ryan <david@c...> wrote:
David, I agree with the Payson book but I was lucky enough to aquire
most of the past issues of W.B. from it's inception. The knowledge
that is contained in those back issues is incredible. It includes
features on building the Sneakeasy with full plans and other Bolger
boats. I also have all of the SBJ's. After getting the W.B.
collection I subscribed and also purchased a few back issues that
were not included mostly to get details about the William Garden
design "Tlingit". I also have a couple Payson books and Bolgers works
but as far as I can tell between SBJ and all of the WB's contain
everything printed in "Instant Boats" plus thousands of other written
gems every body on this list should have. I haven't even mentioned
MAIB yet.
For the money I would Rate the top rags about boats in this order.
#1. MAIB
#2. Boatbuilder, it's second edition has ten boats and plans you can
build including Payson's artical on building Diablo and a 32' tug
full plans Great RAG ++++
#3. Wooden Boats
#4. Good Old Boat, not good in my opinion for small boat owner
builder. Interesting for cruising.
This opinion is not part of or endorsed by Yahoo or any Yahoo sponsor,
actual results in home trials may vary, no warranty implied or
guaranted.
John
> The single most cost effective thing you can do it buy Payson's
> "Instants Boats" You could go several years on the techniques and
> plans contained within.
>
> The second most cost effective thing you can do is post questions
to this list.
>
> Wooden Boat has a lot of pretty pictures of pretty boats, but it is
> of almost no value to the knock together plywood dinghy boat
builder.
> You could build an instant boat for the cost of a year's
subscription.
>
> Get yourself started by building a Teal or Surf more or less to
> Bolger's plan and by Payson's advice. I guarantee you won't be
> disappointed.
>
> YIBB,
>
> David
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I have subscribed to Woodenboat for decades, have enjoyed reading it and
recently stopped subscribing. I keep my old magazines lined up neatly on a
shelf in the shop, and I found I never went back and looked things up.
I now read it in the library.
On the other hand, I have subscribed to Boatbuilding magazine since 1984, and
I am constantly rereading them. I always learn something new in every issue.
HJ
recently stopped subscribing. I keep my old magazines lined up neatly on a
shelf in the shop, and I found I never went back and looked things up.
I now read it in the library.
On the other hand, I have subscribed to Boatbuilding magazine since 1984, and
I am constantly rereading them. I always learn something new in every issue.
HJ
> This is a quick survey question.
> I've never subscribed to Woodenboat Magazine.
> I know it's popular for antique method buffs (caravel, strip plank etc.)
> and maybe I'll become one if I subscribe. (I love old circa 1930's woody
> motor yachts - but am more into building a stitch and glue plywood that
> looks like an oldie).
> My question is purely about the economics of subscription.
>
> If you don't subscribe, but did, why did you stop ?
> If you do subscribe, has the investment of the subscription paid off in
> knowledge, methods, materials gained (where ignorance would have cost
> more) or in finding more cost effective ways of boat building?
>
> I don't work for them. As an aspiring plywood builder, I'm trying to
> spend my boat budget money the most effectively.
>
> Thanks!
> Mike
>
>
>
>
>This is a quick survey question.I subscribed for several years but stopped when I retired and felt I had to make economies somewhere -- it's expensive in Australia. I bought it because I enjoyed reading it, not because I thought it was good for me.
>I've never subscribed to Woodenboat Magazine.
>I know it's popular for antique method buffs (caravel, strip >plank etc.)
>and maybe I'll become one if I subscribe. (I love old circa >1930's woody motor yachts
Howard
In a message dated 3/7/03 9:38:09 AM Central Standard Time,
cha62759@...writes:
thought about shedding my back issues and buying the CD-ROM, as they take up
so much shelf space - but maybe I'll just build some bookcases instead.
Ciao for Niao,
Bill in MN
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cha62759@...writes:
> Some people think there is value in girlie magazines. The only way toREAD THEM??!! I just look at the pictures (in WoodenBoat, I mean). I've
> tell is read them.
>
thought about shedding my back issues and buying the CD-ROM, as they take up
so much shelf space - but maybe I'll just build some bookcases instead.
Ciao for Niao,
Bill in MN
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I do have to agree with you. While I like Wooden Boat
Magazine, it is elitist. It creates a fear that you
need to do everything in a special way. That fear has
probably destroyed many old wooden boats because of
the owners thinking that they are going to do
something wrong. I never see people in old funky
boats having fun on the water in that magazine. Those
boats are closer to plastic covered furniture than a
boat to have fun with.
Lon
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Magazine, it is elitist. It creates a fear that you
need to do everything in a special way. That fear has
probably destroyed many old wooden boats because of
the owners thinking that they are going to do
something wrong. I never see people in old funky
boats having fun on the water in that magazine. Those
boats are closer to plastic covered furniture than a
boat to have fun with.
Lon
--- Doug Harrison <prototype@...> wrote:
> 3/7/2003 8:55:29 AM, "Michael C. Kelly"__________________________________________________
> <mikelly@...> wrote:
>
> >My question is purely about the economics of
> subscription.
> >
> >If you don't subscribe, but did, why did you stop
> ?
>
> >I don't work for them. As an aspiring plywood
> builder, I'm trying to
> >spend my boat budget money the most effectively.
>
>
> My own biased opinions here:
> Woodenboat makes a nice coffee table decoration,
> next to the Time-Life tome of Jackie Kennedy. It's
> got pretty
> depictions of things most of us will never afford,
> interspersed with facts that, while certainly
> interestng, are of little use to
> the backyard boat builder. You won't find much
> reference to plywood in Woodenboat.
>
> I dropped my subscription after four years upon the
> realization that I could have built a plywood boat
> with the money
> spent on subscriptions. MAIB, Duckworks online and
> this list will give you the best return on
> investment.
>
> Disclaimer: It's been raining for six days and I
> just had to bash something!
>
> Doug
>
>
>
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Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more
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The price was just too high. I found it enjoyable reading, but not
enjoyable enough to get me to renew my subscription. Also, its a bi
monthly magazine. I hated waiting two months to get another issue. If
it was a monthly magazine, it might be worth the subscription price.
Now I browse issues at the bookstore and purchase a copy if it is of
particular interest.
Brian
-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Harrison [mailto:prototype@...]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 9:42 AM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: WoodenBoat Magazine Value
3/7/2003 8:55:29 AM, "Michael C. Kelly" <mikelly@...> wrote:
Woodenboat makes a nice coffee table decoration, next to the Time-Life
tome of Jackie Kennedy. It's got pretty
depictions of things most of us will never afford, interspersed with
facts that, while certainly interestng, are of little use to
the backyard boat builder. You won't find much reference to plywood in
Woodenboat.
I dropped my subscription after four years upon the realization that I
could have built a plywood boat with the money
spent on subscriptions. MAIB, Duckworks online and this list will give
you the best return on investment.
Disclaimer: It's been raining for six days and I just had to bash
something!
Doug
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enjoyable enough to get me to renew my subscription. Also, its a bi
monthly magazine. I hated waiting two months to get another issue. If
it was a monthly magazine, it might be worth the subscription price.
Now I browse issues at the bookstore and purchase a copy if it is of
particular interest.
Brian
-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Harrison [mailto:prototype@...]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 9:42 AM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: WoodenBoat Magazine Value
3/7/2003 8:55:29 AM, "Michael C. Kelly" <mikelly@...> wrote:
>My question is purely about the economics of subscription.My own biased opinions here:
>
>If you don't subscribe, but did, why did you stop ?
>I don't work for them. As an aspiring plywood builder, I'm trying to
>spend my boat budget money the most effectively.
Woodenboat makes a nice coffee table decoration, next to the Time-Life
tome of Jackie Kennedy. It's got pretty
depictions of things most of us will never afford, interspersed with
facts that, while certainly interestng, are of little use to
the backyard boat builder. You won't find much reference to plywood in
Woodenboat.
I dropped my subscription after four years upon the realization that I
could have built a plywood boat with the money
spent on subscriptions. MAIB, Duckworks online and this list will give
you the best return on investment.
Disclaimer: It's been raining for six days and I just had to bash
something!
Doug
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3/7/2003 8:55:29 AM, "Michael C. Kelly" <mikelly@...> wrote:
Woodenboat makes a nice coffee table decoration, next to the Time-Life tome of Jackie Kennedy. It's got pretty
depictions of things most of us will never afford, interspersed with facts that, while certainly interestng, are of little use to
the backyard boat builder. You won't find much reference to plywood in Woodenboat.
I dropped my subscription after four years upon the realization that I could have built a plywood boat with the money
spent on subscriptions. MAIB, Duckworks online and this list will give you the best return on investment.
Disclaimer: It's been raining for six days and I just had to bash something!
Doug
>My question is purely about the economics of subscription.My own biased opinions here:
>
>If you don't subscribe, but did, why did you stop ?
>I don't work for them. As an aspiring plywood builder, I'm trying to
>spend my boat budget money the most effectively.
Woodenboat makes a nice coffee table decoration, next to the Time-Life tome of Jackie Kennedy. It's got pretty
depictions of things most of us will never afford, interspersed with facts that, while certainly interestng, are of little use to
the backyard boat builder. You won't find much reference to plywood in Woodenboat.
I dropped my subscription after four years upon the realization that I could have built a plywood boat with the money
spent on subscriptions. MAIB, Duckworks online and this list will give you the best return on investment.
Disclaimer: It's been raining for six days and I just had to bash something!
Doug
I was a subscriber that quit. I stopped my subscription because it was
just too much money to pay for what I was getting. There are some great
articles on beautiful boats, all over my budget, but I never really
learned anything that would help with the projects I was working on,
small plywood boats. For boat info for the average man, go to Duckworks
magazine or see Jim Michalacks web site. They are online and free.
Jim Michalaks site has a wealth of information. His plans are good to
and run about $30. I have a couple framed in my office.
Brian
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael C. Kelly [mailto:mikelly@...]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 7:55 AM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] WoodenBoat Magazine Value
This is a quick survey question.
I've never subscribed to Woodenboat Magazine.
I know it's popular for antique method buffs (caravel, strip plank etc.)
and maybe I'll become one if I subscribe. (I love old circa 1930's woody
motor yachts - but am more into building a stitch and glue plywood that
looks like an oldie).
My question is purely about the economics of subscription.
If you don't subscribe, but did, why did you stop ?
If you do subscribe, has the investment of the subscription paid off in
knowledge, methods, materials gained (where ignorance would have cost
more) or in finding more cost effective ways of boat building?
I don't work for them. As an aspiring plywood builder, I'm trying to
spend my boat budget money the most effectively.
Thanks!
Mike
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just too much money to pay for what I was getting. There are some great
articles on beautiful boats, all over my budget, but I never really
learned anything that would help with the projects I was working on,
small plywood boats. For boat info for the average man, go to Duckworks
magazine or see Jim Michalacks web site. They are online and free.
Jim Michalaks site has a wealth of information. His plans are good to
and run about $30. I have a couple framed in my office.
Brian
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From: Michael C. Kelly [mailto:mikelly@...]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 7:55 AM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] WoodenBoat Magazine Value
This is a quick survey question.
I've never subscribed to Woodenboat Magazine.
I know it's popular for antique method buffs (caravel, strip plank etc.)
and maybe I'll become one if I subscribe. (I love old circa 1930's woody
motor yachts - but am more into building a stitch and glue plywood that
looks like an oldie).
My question is purely about the economics of subscription.
If you don't subscribe, but did, why did you stop ?
If you do subscribe, has the investment of the subscription paid off in
knowledge, methods, materials gained (where ignorance would have cost
more) or in finding more cost effective ways of boat building?
I don't work for them. As an aspiring plywood builder, I'm trying to
spend my boat budget money the most effectively.
Thanks!
Mike
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>This is a quick survey question.The single most cost effective thing you can do it buy Payson's
>I've never subscribed to Woodenboat Magazine.
>I don't work for them. As an aspiring plywood builder, I'm trying to
>spend my boat budget money the most effectively.
>
"Instants Boats" You could go several years on the techniques and
plans contained within.
The second most cost effective thing you can do is post questions to this list.
Wooden Boat has a lot of pretty pictures of pretty boats, but it is
of almost no value to the knock together plywood dinghy boat builder.
You could build an instant boat for the cost of a year's subscription.
Get yourself started by building a Teal or Surf more or less to
Bolger's plan and by Payson's advice. I guarantee you won't be
disappointed.
YIBB,
David
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This is a quick survey question.
I've never subscribed to Woodenboat Magazine.
I know it's popular for antique method buffs (caravel, strip plank etc.)
and maybe I'll become one if I subscribe. (I love old circa 1930's woody
motor yachts - but am more into building a stitch and glue plywood that
looks like an oldie).
My question is purely about the economics of subscription.
If you don't subscribe, but did, why did you stop ?
If you do subscribe, has the investment of the subscription paid off in
knowledge, methods, materials gained (where ignorance would have cost
more) or in finding more cost effective ways of boat building?
I don't work for them. As an aspiring plywood builder, I'm trying to
spend my boat budget money the most effectively.
Thanks!
Mike
I've never subscribed to Woodenboat Magazine.
I know it's popular for antique method buffs (caravel, strip plank etc.)
and maybe I'll become one if I subscribe. (I love old circa 1930's woody
motor yachts - but am more into building a stitch and glue plywood that
looks like an oldie).
My question is purely about the economics of subscription.
If you don't subscribe, but did, why did you stop ?
If you do subscribe, has the investment of the subscription paid off in
knowledge, methods, materials gained (where ignorance would have cost
more) or in finding more cost effective ways of boat building?
I don't work for them. As an aspiring plywood builder, I'm trying to
spend my boat budget money the most effectively.
Thanks!
Mike