Re: in defense of Duckworks
Though I can't afford it, The one advantage in the colonies, is that
you don't have to double the cost with postage. When I subscribed to
MAIB, I probably would have gladly taken it in virtual form, heck
even payment in virtual form would have probably kept me in the fold.
you don't have to double the cost with postage. When I subscribed to
MAIB, I probably would have gladly taken it in virtual form, heck
even payment in virtual form would have probably kept me in the fold.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "vicskiff" <john.ewing@s...> wrote:
> Wow. And I thought it bad at $36.82 Canadian at today's rate of
> exchange.
>
> John
>
Hi Chuck,
I am actually glad you are going to keep the content flowing like it
is. I just have a homepage style website and I haven't changed it in
forever because of the time involved in doing it. From that
experience, I know that you must spend a bunch of time with the all
the rotating content that you have. Build it and they will come! I'm
hooked, I'll find the $25 and I'm in, but try to realize that some of
us "cheap" plywood boat builders (as one person called us), have a
hard parting with bucks that could go to supplies. Thanks for doing
what you've done for all these years! I hope we can all say this in
10 years from now when you raise the rate to $26.
Hang tough ol' boy,
Rich in Florida
(I squeeze the paint out of my bushes bristles to gain an extra 1-
1/2" bottom coverage) Keep Smiling....pays the same as a frown but
feels better!
I am actually glad you are going to keep the content flowing like it
is. I just have a homepage style website and I haven't changed it in
forever because of the time involved in doing it. From that
experience, I know that you must spend a bunch of time with the all
the rotating content that you have. Build it and they will come! I'm
hooked, I'll find the $25 and I'm in, but try to realize that some of
us "cheap" plywood boat builders (as one person called us), have a
hard parting with bucks that could go to supplies. Thanks for doing
what you've done for all these years! I hope we can all say this in
10 years from now when you raise the rate to $26.
Hang tough ol' boy,
Rich in Florida
(I squeeze the paint out of my bushes bristles to gain an extra 1-
1/2" bottom coverage) Keep Smiling....pays the same as a frown but
feels better!
> I guess I should say a word or two in my defense.
Wow. And I thought it bad at $36.82 Canadian at today's rate of
exchange.
John
exchange.
John
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "riquenz" <Rique@p...> wrote:
> Hi Chuck
> Even though Duckworks is probably my favorite site, by the time the
> US$25 is translated to NZ dollars, it becomes more like $60 to me.
I
> am disapointed that the advertising option ( as a pain in the bum
> that it is) wasn't gone for. I wonder how many of you would pay $60
> for the privelege?
> Thanx,
> Rique
>
>
>
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Bosquette" <sbosquette@c...>
> wrote:
> > Count me in also. As a matter of fact I insist on paying my
> > subscription even though I contribute articles from time to
time.
> > The $25 is peanuts compared to the daily pleasure I derive from
the
> > magazine. The opposite of greedy is cheap and the truth is if
you
> > want a cheap(free) magazine then you may get no magazine at
all!!
> > You have my full support Chuck and I hope the Magazine continues
as
> a
> > paid subscription because I will demand better content and more
to
> > offer as a subscriber. We can and should all vote with our
> dollars,
> > if it is not well done we shouldn't spend our hard earned cash!!!
> >
> > Steve Bosquette
Hi Chuck
Even though Duckworks is probably my favorite site, by the time the
US$25 is translated to NZ dollars, it becomes more like $60 to me. I
am disapointed that the advertising option ( as a pain in the bum
that it is) wasn't gone for. I wonder how many of you would pay $60
for the privelege?
Thanx,
Rique
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Bosquette" <sbosquette@c...>
wrote:
Even though Duckworks is probably my favorite site, by the time the
US$25 is translated to NZ dollars, it becomes more like $60 to me. I
am disapointed that the advertising option ( as a pain in the bum
that it is) wasn't gone for. I wonder how many of you would pay $60
for the privelege?
Thanx,
Rique
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Bosquette" <sbosquette@c...>
wrote:
> Count me in also. As a matter of fact I insist on paying mya
> subscription even though I contribute articles from time to time.
> The $25 is peanuts compared to the daily pleasure I derive from the
> magazine. The opposite of greedy is cheap and the truth is if you
> want a cheap(free) magazine then you may get no magazine at all!!
> You have my full support Chuck and I hope the Magazine continues as
> paid subscription because I will demand better content and more todollars,
> offer as a subscriber. We can and should all vote with our
> if it is not well done we shouldn't spend our hard earned cash!!!
>
> Steve Bosquette
Re your "Girls in Homemade Boats" photo contest. Better make it a
swimsuit contest in homemade boats contest. My wife, Elaine, is an
ardent feminist and she'll demand some guys photos too!
It's really good to see so many say that they'll be helping to
support Duckworks, it's a great e-Rag. I'm an early subscriber, as
even at $37 tiny little Canadian dollarettes it's still a bargain,
now if he'll just go back to the old format. I can't find a thing on
his new one. (I hate learning curves)
Gotta' go do a few thousand sit ups to get the flab ready for the
photo shoot.....
Bruce Hector
http://www.brucesboats.com
swimsuit contest in homemade boats contest. My wife, Elaine, is an
ardent feminist and she'll demand some guys photos too!
It's really good to see so many say that they'll be helping to
support Duckworks, it's a great e-Rag. I'm an early subscriber, as
even at $37 tiny little Canadian dollarettes it's still a bargain,
now if he'll just go back to the old format. I can't find a thing on
his new one. (I hate learning curves)
Gotta' go do a few thousand sit ups to get the flab ready for the
photo shoot.....
Bruce Hector
http://www.brucesboats.com
> -- Sue --Suspended?
>(sadly, I60 construction is officially suspended until either my
>partner or I finds a job....)
--
C.E.P.
415 W.46th Street
New York, New York 10036
http://www.crumblingempire.com
Mobile (646) 325-8325
Office (212) 247-0296
> We have lots of plans, including a "Girls in Homemade Boats" photoEep! Must. Finish. Gull.
> contest
-- Sue --
(sadly, I60 construction is officially suspended until either my
partner or I finds a job....)
--
Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
Count me in also. As a matter of fact I insist on paying my
subscription even though I contribute articles from time to time.
The $25 is peanuts compared to the daily pleasure I derive from the
magazine. The opposite of greedy is cheap and the truth is if you
want a cheap(free) magazine then you may get no magazine at all!!
You have my full support Chuck and I hope the Magazine continues as a
paid subscription because I will demand better content and more to
offer as a subscriber. We can and should all vote with our dollars,
if it is not well done we shouldn't spend our hard earned cash!!!
Steve Bosquette
subscription even though I contribute articles from time to time.
The $25 is peanuts compared to the daily pleasure I derive from the
magazine. The opposite of greedy is cheap and the truth is if you
want a cheap(free) magazine then you may get no magazine at all!!
You have my full support Chuck and I hope the Magazine continues as a
paid subscription because I will demand better content and more to
offer as a subscriber. We can and should all vote with our dollars,
if it is not well done we shouldn't spend our hard earned cash!!!
Steve Bosquette
Oh, Chuck, I don't think anyone here thinks you are gready. Especialy anyone who has met you.
Most of the postings on this thread were discussing whether the content was worth the money. And, the consensus seemed to be that is
was.
You do not need defend yourself.
Most of the postings on this thread were discussing whether the content was worth the money. And, the consensus seemed to be that is
was.
You do not need defend yourself.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuck Leinweber" <chuck@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:01 AM
Subject: [bolger] in defense of Duckworks
> How about some bikini clad models draped across a mouseboat or maybe a Jim
> Michalak Harmonica! That sounds like the best of both worlds to me;)
>
> I guess I should say a word or two in my defense. I hesitated to this point, because defending one's position, especially if it
seems based on greed, usually seems insincere.
>
> My wife, Sandra and I have worked for four years on Duckworks. Our motive from the start was to make a mom and pop business out
of it, so that we could quit our day jobs. That seemed like a slam dunk when the internet was booming. Now that reality has caught
up, it is problematic, even doubious.
>
> At first, we tried the american standard - advertising. That might have worked if I was a better salesman, but I am not. As the
net changed after the crash, we all noticed how much bigger and more pervasive the ads were getting. I could have adopted pop-up or
under ads at any time - I had plenty of offers. I could have adopted the Yahoo way where you have to look at a full page ad before
you go on to what you clicked on in the first place. Franklly that did not appeal to me at all. I thought it would be unfair to
our readers.
>
> Finally, we started our little store, and I am happy to report that it pays for the server time, if not much else. It is getting
better, though, and we have great hopes for it. Then one day, not long ago, we got a bill from our host that was much bigger than we
were used to. It seems that Duckworks has much more traffic than anyone realized.
>
> At that point we asked ourselves: "Do we really need this magazine?" The obvious answer was no. Without it, we could devote much
more time and effort to the store. We could add more products; do more promotion; improve the looks; make it more user-friendly.
The problem is that I really like publishing Duckworks Magazine. The answer was this: Try taking the site subscription. If it
works, go with it. If it doesn't, scale it WAY back, and concentrate on what pays - the store.
>
> I am happy to announce that since the decision, most of our regular readers have responded positively, some wondering how we were
able to keep it free for so long. But we aren't home free. The extent to which we improve the site, will depend on the actual
number of subscribers. We have lots of plans, including a "Girls in Homemade Boats" photo contest, an expanded and updated Index,
product reviews, and many more feature articles. I hope you will all consider joining us as we improve on what has always been a
good place to spend a little time.
>
> Chuck Leinweber
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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>
Chuck,
You don't need a defense. As has been pointed out by others you can't eat a
good dinner or play a round of golf
for the price of your subscription. Paying $25 for a year
of the site is a real bargain. Most of us spend more time dreaming instead
of building and the site is the stuff of which dreams are made. Count me
in.
James Fuller
You don't need a defense. As has been pointed out by others you can't eat a
good dinner or play a round of golf
for the price of your subscription. Paying $25 for a year
of the site is a real bargain. Most of us spend more time dreaming instead
of building and the site is the stuff of which dreams are made. Count me
in.
James Fuller
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuck Leinweber" <chuck@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 8:01 AM
Subject: [bolger] in defense of Duckworks
> How about some bikini clad models draped across a mouseboat or maybe a Jim
> Michalak Harmonica! That sounds like the best of both worlds to me;)
>
> I guess I should say a word or two in my defense. I hesitated to this
point, because defending one's position, especially if it seems based on
greed, usually seems insincere.
>
> My wife, Sandra and I have worked for four years on Duckworks. Our motive
from the start was to make a mom and pop business out of it, so that we
could quit our day jobs. That seemed like a slam dunk when the internet was
booming. Now that reality has caught up, it is problematic, even doubious.
>
> At first, we tried the american standard - advertising. That might have
worked if I was a better salesman, but I am not. As the net changed after
the crash, we all noticed how much bigger and more pervasive the ads were
getting. I could have adopted pop-up or under ads at any time - I had plenty
of offers. I could have adopted the Yahoo way where you have to look at a
full page ad before you go on to what you clicked on in the first place.
Franklly that did not appeal to me at all. I thought it would be unfair to
our readers.
>
> Finally, we started our little store, and I am happy to report that it
pays for the server time, if not much else. It is getting better, though,
and we have great hopes for it. Then one day, not long ago, we got a bill
from our host that was much bigger than we were used to. It seems that
Duckworks has much more traffic than anyone realized.
>
> At that point we asked ourselves: "Do we really need this magazine?" The
obvious answer was no. Without it, we could devote much more time and effort
to the store. We could add more products; do more promotion; improve the
looks; make it more user-friendly. The problem is that I really like
publishing Duckworks Magazine. The answer was this: Try taking the site
subscription. If it works, go with it. If it doesn't, scale it WAY back,
and concentrate on what pays - the store.
>
> I am happy to announce that since the decision, most of our regular
readers have responded positively, some wondering how we were able to keep
it free for so long. But we aren't home free. The extent to which we
improve the site, will depend on the actual number of subscribers. We have
lots of plans, including a "Girls in Homemade Boats" photo contest, an
expanded and updated Index, product reviews, and many more feature articles.
I hope you will all consider joining us as we improve on what has always
been a good place to spend a little time.
>
> Chuck Leinweber
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
> - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts and <snip> away
> - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA,
01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
> - Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> - Open discussion:bolger_coffee_lounge-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject tohttp://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
How about some bikini clad models draped across a mouseboat or maybe a Jim
Michalak Harmonica! That sounds like the best of both worlds to me;)
I guess I should say a word or two in my defense. I hesitated to this point, because defending one's position, especially if it seems based on greed, usually seems insincere.
My wife, Sandra and I have worked for four years on Duckworks. Our motive from the start was to make a mom and pop business out of it, so that we could quit our day jobs. That seemed like a slam dunk when the internet was booming. Now that reality has caught up, it is problematic, even doubious.
At first, we tried the american standard - advertising. That might have worked if I was a better salesman, but I am not. As the net changed after the crash, we all noticed how much bigger and more pervasive the ads were getting. I could have adopted pop-up or under ads at any time - I had plenty of offers. I could have adopted the Yahoo way where you have to look at a full page ad before you go on to what you clicked on in the first place. Franklly that did not appeal to me at all. I thought it would be unfair to our readers.
Finally, we started our little store, and I am happy to report that it pays for the server time, if not much else. It is getting better, though, and we have great hopes for it. Then one day, not long ago, we got a bill from our host that was much bigger than we were used to. It seems that Duckworks has much more traffic than anyone realized.
At that point we asked ourselves: "Do we really need this magazine?" The obvious answer was no. Without it, we could devote much more time and effort to the store. We could add more products; do more promotion; improve the looks; make it more user-friendly. The problem is that I really like publishing Duckworks Magazine. The answer was this: Try taking the site subscription. If it works, go with it. If it doesn't, scale it WAY back, and concentrate on what pays - the store.
I am happy to announce that since the decision, most of our regular readers have responded positively, some wondering how we were able to keep it free for so long. But we aren't home free. The extent to which we improve the site, will depend on the actual number of subscribers. We have lots of plans, including a "Girls in Homemade Boats" photo contest, an expanded and updated Index, product reviews, and many more feature articles. I hope you will all consider joining us as we improve on what has always been a good place to spend a little time.
Chuck Leinweber
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Michalak Harmonica! That sounds like the best of both worlds to me;)
I guess I should say a word or two in my defense. I hesitated to this point, because defending one's position, especially if it seems based on greed, usually seems insincere.
My wife, Sandra and I have worked for four years on Duckworks. Our motive from the start was to make a mom and pop business out of it, so that we could quit our day jobs. That seemed like a slam dunk when the internet was booming. Now that reality has caught up, it is problematic, even doubious.
At first, we tried the american standard - advertising. That might have worked if I was a better salesman, but I am not. As the net changed after the crash, we all noticed how much bigger and more pervasive the ads were getting. I could have adopted pop-up or under ads at any time - I had plenty of offers. I could have adopted the Yahoo way where you have to look at a full page ad before you go on to what you clicked on in the first place. Franklly that did not appeal to me at all. I thought it would be unfair to our readers.
Finally, we started our little store, and I am happy to report that it pays for the server time, if not much else. It is getting better, though, and we have great hopes for it. Then one day, not long ago, we got a bill from our host that was much bigger than we were used to. It seems that Duckworks has much more traffic than anyone realized.
At that point we asked ourselves: "Do we really need this magazine?" The obvious answer was no. Without it, we could devote much more time and effort to the store. We could add more products; do more promotion; improve the looks; make it more user-friendly. The problem is that I really like publishing Duckworks Magazine. The answer was this: Try taking the site subscription. If it works, go with it. If it doesn't, scale it WAY back, and concentrate on what pays - the store.
I am happy to announce that since the decision, most of our regular readers have responded positively, some wondering how we were able to keep it free for so long. But we aren't home free. The extent to which we improve the site, will depend on the actual number of subscribers. We have lots of plans, including a "Girls in Homemade Boats" photo contest, an expanded and updated Index, product reviews, and many more feature articles. I hope you will all consider joining us as we improve on what has always been a good place to spend a little time.
Chuck Leinweber
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