Re: [bolger] Rub/hand rails on skiffs and drift boats
Another way of doing rub/handrails can be seen at:
http://www.geocities.com/howardstephenson/myboat.jpg
The inwale is glued and nailed to the ply. The outwale and spacers are attached with bolts that pass through the three layers of timber, and the ply too of course. The bolt-heads and nuts can be countersunk. This is easy to do, makes the frameless hull much more rigid, produces quite a shippy look and provides several handholds and cleats.
(Sorry, it's not a Bolger design).
Howard
http://www.geocities.com/howardstephenson/myboat.jpg
The inwale is glued and nailed to the ply. The outwale and spacers are attached with bolts that pass through the three layers of timber, and the ply too of course. The bolt-heads and nuts can be countersunk. This is easy to do, makes the frameless hull much more rigid, produces quite a shippy look and provides several handholds and cleats.
(Sorry, it's not a Bolger design).
Howard
Randy Beach wrote:
the
hull rigidity. I did these on my daughter's D4, and I wouldn't do it
again. They
make something of a trap for crud, especially spider webs, and you will
never
be able to get into the gaps to resurface. Our inwhale is raised only
about 8mm
from the hull, maybe if the gap was at least 25mm it would be easier to
access.
Bruce Fountain
Senior Software Engineer
Union Switch & Signal
Perth, Western Australia
> I am on the ending hours of a pointy skiff and am just finishing theI think they were originally structural - they should add considerably to
> rub/hand rails. I have been looking at drift boats and other skiffs
> and have taken a fancy to the inside rails. I don't under stand what
> they are for. You have your outer rub rail and an inner rail that is
> seperated by several blocks along its length. This leaves gaps every
> few inches. What are the gaps for? Are they for oar locks, or just
> tie down points? I would like to put them on my skiff.
the
hull rigidity. I did these on my daughter's D4, and I wouldn't do it
again. They
make something of a trap for crud, especially spider webs, and you will
never
be able to get into the gaps to resurface. Our inwhale is raised only
about 8mm
from the hull, maybe if the gap was at least 25mm it would be easier to
access.
Bruce Fountain
Senior Software Engineer
Union Switch & Signal
Perth, Western Australia
This detail makes a tremendously strong but light weight girder.
Mark
You wrote:
Mark
You wrote:
>
> I am on the ending hours of a pointy skiff and am just finishing the
> rub/hand rails. I have been looking at drift boats and other skiffs
> and have taken a fancy to the inside rails. I don't under stand what
> they are for. You have your outer rub rail and an inner rail that is
> seperated by several blocks along its length. This leaves gaps every
> few inches. What are the gaps for? Are they for oar locks, or just
> tie down points? I would like to put them on my skiff.
>
> Thanks,
> Randy
they're useful as tie downs, and it also makes it easy to get water, sand,
etc. out of the boat. They also look really cool! They were an integral part
of boats built the old fashioned way with ribs at regular intervals, so they
lend a very traditional flare to a plywood boat if done right.
Paul L.
-----Original Message-----
From: Randy Beach [mailto:rbeach@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 3:38 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Rub/hand rails on skiffs and drift boats
I am on the ending hours of a pointy skiff and am just finishing the
rub/hand rails. I have been looking at drift boats and other skiffs
and have taken a fancy to the inside rails. I don't under stand what
they are for. You have your outer rub rail and an inner rail that is
seperated by several blocks along its length. This leaves gaps every
few inches. What are the gaps for? Are they for oar locks, or just
tie down points? I would like to put them on my skiff.
Thanks,
Randy
etc. out of the boat. They also look really cool! They were an integral part
of boats built the old fashioned way with ribs at regular intervals, so they
lend a very traditional flare to a plywood boat if done right.
Paul L.
-----Original Message-----
From: Randy Beach [mailto:rbeach@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 3:38 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Rub/hand rails on skiffs and drift boats
I am on the ending hours of a pointy skiff and am just finishing the
rub/hand rails. I have been looking at drift boats and other skiffs
and have taken a fancy to the inside rails. I don't under stand what
they are for. You have your outer rub rail and an inner rail that is
seperated by several blocks along its length. This leaves gaps every
few inches. What are the gaps for? Are they for oar locks, or just
tie down points? I would like to put them on my skiff.
Thanks,
Randy
On a traditional boat with frames the inwhale is attached to the inboard surface of the frames and that produces the gaps you are talking about. On stitch and glue, with no frames , you may still want to space the inwhale away from the top of the sheer planking so when you turn the skiff over to drain the water, fish guts , etc. they have a hole to pass through ; empties the boat better. They also provide convenient places to lash down equip., but that is just a by-product . The spacing also adds stiffness and lets you use smaller (thinner) pieces for the gunnels, to get the same strength.
The spacer blocks can be glued right onto the top of the sheer planking or plywood and maybe nailed also. Screwing the inwhale to the blocks with glue is an easy way to go.
Adds a little visual interest to the boat also.
Richard
The spacer blocks can be glued right onto the top of the sheer planking or plywood and maybe nailed also. Screwing the inwhale to the blocks with glue is an easy way to go.
Adds a little visual interest to the boat also.
Richard
----- Original Message -----
From: Randy Beach
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 2:37 PM
Subject: [bolger] Rub/hand rails on skiffs and drift boats
I am on the ending hours of a pointy skiff and am just finishing the
rub/hand rails. I have been looking at drift boats and other skiffs
and have taken a fancy to the inside rails. I don't under stand what
they are for. You have your outer rub rail and an inner rail that is
seperated by several blocks along its length. This leaves gaps every
few inches. What are the gaps for? Are they for oar locks, or just
tie down points? I would like to put them on my skiff.
Thanks,
Randy
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I am on the ending hours of a pointy skiff and am just finishing the
rub/hand rails. I have been looking at drift boats and other skiffs
and have taken a fancy to the inside rails. I don't under stand what
they are for. You have your outer rub rail and an inner rail that is
seperated by several blocks along its length. This leaves gaps every
few inches. What are the gaps for? Are they for oar locks, or just
tie down points? I would like to put them on my skiff.
Thanks,
Randy
rub/hand rails. I have been looking at drift boats and other skiffs
and have taken a fancy to the inside rails. I don't under stand what
they are for. You have your outer rub rail and an inner rail that is
seperated by several blocks along its length. This leaves gaps every
few inches. What are the gaps for? Are they for oar locks, or just
tie down points? I would like to put them on my skiff.
Thanks,
Randy