Re: [bolger] Re: Canned Spam defense
I think they have the group address already! My ISP has anti spam software that works
pretty well on my own mail; what gets past them I can filter. Wish Yahoo could do the same...
For more on his maybe we should switch to coffee_lounge?
Mark
Harry James wrote:
pretty well on my own mail; what gets past them I can filter. Wish Yahoo could do the same...
For more on his maybe we should switch to coffee_lounge?
Mark
Harry James wrote:
>
> What has probably happened is that all of you have confirmed that your
> addresses are good email addresses and are now in the spam pot of good
> addresses so that you can receive even more spam.
>
> The mind set of spammers is foreign to the polite, empathic norm of this
> group. The concept behind spam is to send to as many as possible, a response
> of 1 in 10,000 is cost effective because of the low costs involved, be
> dammed to the fact that it might offend the other 9,999. Responding to them
> merely confirms your address.
>
> The only way to attack spammers is to go after the ISP's that host them and
> make it poor business.
>
> I have some of the tools at work for tracking ISP's and can publish here if
> others are interested. It is definitely off topic. Greg Carlson our moderator
> mentioned some a few days ago in his posting on eboat spam.
>
> HJ
>
> On Monday 14 April 2003 06:51 am, you wrote:
> > I liked Chuck's action so much I just did the same. I copy and pasted
> > Mark's letter, appended my signature and made the subject "enough
> > already!". Then pasted same into a message to the six addresses at
> > the eboattrade site. Only took a minute to do all six.
> >
> > Hope they enjoy our attentions at least as much as I've enjoyed
> > theirs.
> >
> > Bruce Hector
> >
> >
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
> - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts and <snip> away
> - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
> - Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> - Open discussion:bolger_coffee_lounge-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject tohttp://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
The people at powerpipe.com say that
eboattrade.com is 'hosted' through
a domain called datingopinions.com
Complaints directed there might work,
might not...
Bolger Boat are good ways to get
dates in my opinion, so... On topic!
:p
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eboattrade.com is 'hosted' through
a domain called datingopinions.com
Complaints directed there might work,
might not...
Bolger Boat are good ways to get
dates in my opinion, so... On topic!
:p
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>Bruce,
>
>The domain was registered through
>powerpipe.com but is hosted through
>datingopinions.com
>Please seehttp://www.geektools.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgito determine
>the owner of the above.
>
>Please register spam complaints with www.icann.org
>
>ICANN can order any registrar to delete a
>domain name if the domain owner
>(registrant) can be shown to be guilty of spamming.
>
>Please also contactqdu@..., the apparent domain owner.
>
>Regards,
>
>Jim Fellers
>PowerPipe.com
>Customer Support Team
>512-248-0021
>9am - 4pm CST M-F
What has probably happened is that all of you have confirmed that your
addresses are good email addresses and are now in the spam pot of good
addresses so that you can receive even more spam.
The mind set of spammers is foreign to the polite, empathic norm of this
group. The concept behind spam is to send to as many as possible, a response
of 1 in 10,000 is cost effective because of the low costs involved, be
dammed to the fact that it might offend the other 9,999. Responding to them
merely confirms your address.
The only way to attack spammers is to go after the ISP's that host them and
make it poor business.
I have some of the tools at work for tracking ISP's and can publish here if
others are interested. It is definitely off topic. Greg Carlson our moderator
mentioned some a few days ago in his posting on eboat spam.
HJ
addresses are good email addresses and are now in the spam pot of good
addresses so that you can receive even more spam.
The mind set of spammers is foreign to the polite, empathic norm of this
group. The concept behind spam is to send to as many as possible, a response
of 1 in 10,000 is cost effective because of the low costs involved, be
dammed to the fact that it might offend the other 9,999. Responding to them
merely confirms your address.
The only way to attack spammers is to go after the ISP's that host them and
make it poor business.
I have some of the tools at work for tracking ISP's and can publish here if
others are interested. It is definitely off topic. Greg Carlson our moderator
mentioned some a few days ago in his posting on eboat spam.
HJ
On Monday 14 April 2003 06:51 am, you wrote:
> I liked Chuck's action so much I just did the same. I copy and pasted
> Mark's letter, appended my signature and made the subject "enough
> already!". Then pasted same into a message to the six addresses at
> the eboattrade site. Only took a minute to do all six.
>
> Hope they enjoy our attentions at least as much as I've enjoyed
> theirs.
>
> Bruce Hector
>
>
I liked Chuck's action so much I just did the same. I copy and pasted
Mark's letter, appended my signature and made the subject "enough
already!". Then pasted same into a message to the six addresses at
the eboattrade site. Only took a minute to do all six.
Hope they enjoy our attentions at least as much as I've enjoyed
theirs.
Bruce Hector
Mark's letter, appended my signature and made the subject "enough
already!". Then pasted same into a message to the six addresses at
the eboattrade site. Only took a minute to do all six.
Hope they enjoy our attentions at least as much as I've enjoyed
theirs.
Bruce Hector
Well put, Mark. I took the additional step of writing to each of the addresses on this page:http://www.eboattrade.com/helpalthough I admit that my letter was not as succinct as yours. Maybe they will get the idea if we all let them know how we feel.
Chuck
Hi,
I belong to several Yahoo discussion groups devoted to small boat building, design and
use. Each of them has been bombarded on a daily basis recently by notices re: your service.
I'd like to suggest to you that we are now aware of your business offering. Further, that
you are now generating a large degree of ill will through this effort. I believe you now
reduce the likelihood of any member of these groups trading with you subsequently with
inverse proportion to the number of messages we receive.
Sincerely,
Mark Albanese
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Chuck
Hi,
I belong to several Yahoo discussion groups devoted to small boat building, design and
use. Each of them has been bombarded on a daily basis recently by notices re: your service.
I'd like to suggest to you that we are now aware of your business offering. Further, that
you are now generating a large degree of ill will through this effort. I believe you now
reduce the likelihood of any member of these groups trading with you subsequently with
inverse proportion to the number of messages we receive.
Sincerely,
Mark Albanese
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in the "old days" if you wanted to make a point, an email bomb over stuffed their site with crap. a thick book works great. Not that I do things like that.... anymore.
scott
scott
----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Hector
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 2:51 PM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Canned Spam defense
I liked Chuck's action so much I just did the same. I copy and pasted
Mark's letter, appended my signature and made the subject "enough
already!". Then pasted same into a message to the six addresses at
the eboattrade site. Only took a minute to do all six.
Hope they enjoy our attentions at least as much as I've enjoyed
theirs.
Bruce Hector
Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
Bolger rules!!!
- no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
- stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
- add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts and <snip> away
- To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
- Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
- Open discussion:bolger_coffee_lounge-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Hi,
I belong to several Yahoo discussion groups devoted to small boat building, design and
use. Each of them has been bombarded on a daily basis recently by notices re: your service.
I'd like to suggest to you that we are now aware of your business offering. Further, that
you are now generating a large degree of ill will through this effort. I believe you now
reduce the likelihood of any member of these groups trading with you subsequently with
inverse proportion to the number of messages we receive.
Sincerely,
Mark Albanese
I belong to several Yahoo discussion groups devoted to small boat building, design and
use. Each of them has been bombarded on a daily basis recently by notices re: your service.
I'd like to suggest to you that we are now aware of your business offering. Further, that
you are now generating a large degree of ill will through this effort. I believe you now
reduce the likelihood of any member of these groups trading with you subsequently with
inverse proportion to the number of messages we receive.
Sincerely,
Mark Albanese