Re: Yonder
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "marilyn1.armstrong"
<marilyn1.armstrong@...> wrote:
and Bruce Hallman did a paper model and posted photos of the hull
shape.
http://community.webshots.com/album/343514976QUTQFQ
Rollin dalPiaz commissioned the design and Mark Hall from Stockton
CA purchased plans ($1000). Nothing has been mentioned about any
building starting since then.
It is an interesting design. Box keel construction that becomes the
building jig for the framework and then strip planked, and plywood
decking from the portlights up I think.
I would also suggest the Alaskan Motorsailer as well, as it would be
much less complicated to build. Yonder of course is world girding
capable and AMS is more of a low effort coastal cruiser. Doesn't
have the sail area nor the deep centerboard. I think I prefer the
idea of the small diesel inboard to two outboards though. Just
having read about the advantages in the Sitka Explorer article.
You could maybe locate the email addresses of the two Yonder
builders in the members list? Or messages search with "Yonder".
Nels
<marilyn1.armstrong@...> wrote:
>three
> Chip Humphreys has provided a service for the Group by posting a
> view scan of "Yonder" plans. This exceptional design by Phil andThere was a fair amount of discussion about Yonder a few years back
> Suzanne comes with many sheets of plans and a 49 page construction
> syllabus. Has one of these craft been launched yet? How many are
> under construction at present? Marilyn Armstrong
>
> Post: 46898 Yonder Info Found by Chip Humphreys
and Bruce Hallman did a paper model and posted photos of the hull
shape.
http://community.webshots.com/album/343514976QUTQFQ
Rollin dalPiaz commissioned the design and Mark Hall from Stockton
CA purchased plans ($1000). Nothing has been mentioned about any
building starting since then.
It is an interesting design. Box keel construction that becomes the
building jig for the framework and then strip planked, and plywood
decking from the portlights up I think.
I would also suggest the Alaskan Motorsailer as well, as it would be
much less complicated to build. Yonder of course is world girding
capable and AMS is more of a low effort coastal cruiser. Doesn't
have the sail area nor the deep centerboard. I think I prefer the
idea of the small diesel inboard to two outboards though. Just
having read about the advantages in the Sitka Explorer article.
You could maybe locate the email addresses of the two Yonder
builders in the members list? Or messages search with "Yonder".
Nels
Chip Humphreys has provided a service for the Group by posting a three
view scan of "Yonder" plans. This exceptional design by Phil and
Suzanne comes with many sheets of plans and a 49 page construction
syllabus. Has one of these craft been launched yet? How many are
under construction at present? Marilyn Armstrong
Post: 46898 Yonder Info Found by Chip Humphreys
view scan of "Yonder" plans. This exceptional design by Phil and
Suzanne comes with many sheets of plans and a 49 page construction
syllabus. Has one of these craft been launched yet? How many are
under construction at present? Marilyn Armstrong
Post: 46898 Yonder Info Found by Chip Humphreys
Hey Mark,
I'd sure like a look see at those Yonder plans... I'm headed up your
way in October, probably the 7th-10th for a little cruise. Not sure
which boat I'll bring this time... If you'll be around maybe we can
finally meet up, I still haven't seen you Meadowlark.
Any Bolger / Michalak / Homebuilt or other small boaters interested
in a California Delta Messabout in October?
If interested go to;
CA_Delta_Messabout@yahoogroups.com
Rick Bedard
I'd sure like a look see at those Yonder plans... I'm headed up your
way in October, probably the 7th-10th for a little cruise. Not sure
which boat I'll bring this time... If you'll be around maybe we can
finally meet up, I still haven't seen you Meadowlark.
Any Bolger / Michalak / Homebuilt or other small boaters interested
in a California Delta Messabout in October?
If interested go to;
CA_Delta_Messabout@yahoogroups.com
Rick Bedard
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Mark Hall <krametoc@y...> wrote:
> Friends,
> I purchased Yonder plans from Bolger as this is the
> boat I want to build. But in the mean time, I am
> using the plans to help guide my reconstruction of a
> mast and tabernacle on the "Meadowlark" (Herreschoff
> design). If there are any in the Stockton, CA area
> who would like a closer look at the Yonder plans, let
> me know.
> Mark Hall
>
>
>
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Friends,
For those interested, Yonder Plans from Bolger and
Friends are $1000 in a nice blue tube.
Mark Hall
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For those interested, Yonder Plans from Bolger and
Friends are $1000 in a nice blue tube.
Mark Hall
____________________________________________________
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On 8/31/05, Mark Hall wrote:
Bolger boat. What time frame do you imagine
for building Yonder? I am curious what PB&F sell
the plans for?
> Friends,Cool, you chose well, that is perhaps the best
> I purchased Yonder plans from Bolger as this is the
> boat I want to build.
Bolger boat. What time frame do you imagine
for building Yonder? I am curious what PB&F sell
the plans for?
Friends,
I purchased Yonder plans from Bolger as this is the
boat I want to build. But in the mean time, I am
using the plans to help guide my reconstruction of a
mast and tabernacle on the "Meadowlark" (Herreschoff
design). If there are any in the Stockton, CA area
who would like a closer look at the Yonder plans, let
me know.
Mark Hall
____________________________________________________
Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
I purchased Yonder plans from Bolger as this is the
boat I want to build. But in the mean time, I am
using the plans to help guide my reconstruction of a
mast and tabernacle on the "Meadowlark" (Herreschoff
design). If there are any in the Stockton, CA area
who would like a closer look at the Yonder plans, let
me know.
Mark Hall
____________________________________________________
Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
> Yonder (Design # 665)In _Small Craft Advisor_ Phil Bolger
responded to the question:
"What do you consider your most
seaworthy small sailboat design and why?"
PCB: "There are a number of my designs
that are thoroughly seaworthy,
but I think I'd pick Romp..."
Of course, Yonder is PB&F's 'improved'
Romp, so Yonder is really something!
After completing the custom design for YONDER, Phil and Suzanne wrote:
"She ought to be comfortable, handy, reliable, compact to keep in a
marina, and is conservatively distinctive." She won't be cheap but
she should be worth it." Yonder (Design # 665) LOD 30'00" Beam
10'4"
Draft 25"/6'6" Sail area 865 Length over bowsprit and boomkin 46'5"
Please investigate this design if you desire a Two-some Long-Range
Yawl. I am building a reserve of money to invest in construction in
the future. Rollin dalPiaz
"She ought to be comfortable, handy, reliable, compact to keep in a
marina, and is conservatively distinctive." She won't be cheap but
she should be worth it." Yonder (Design # 665) LOD 30'00" Beam
10'4"
Draft 25"/6'6" Sail area 865 Length over bowsprit and boomkin 46'5"
Please investigate this design if you desire a Two-some Long-Range
Yawl. I am building a reserve of money to invest in construction in
the future. Rollin dalPiaz
I would welcome correspondence with person building Yonder or
anticipating construction of this design. The craft was designed by
Phil and Susanne for me. I gave them a very free hand and all the
innovations are theirs. I was very happy the day they telephoned to
briefly discuss the design and let me know the plans were in the
mail. Unfortunately, construction is postponed as a move and a
marriage intervened. Would like locate a builder who is realizing
this design now. Rollin dalPiaz
anticipating construction of this design. The craft was designed by
Phil and Susanne for me. I gave them a very free hand and all the
innovations are theirs. I was very happy the day they telephoned to
briefly discuss the design and let me know the plans were in the
mail. Unfortunately, construction is postponed as a move and a
marriage intervened. Would like locate a builder who is realizing
this design now. Rollin dalPiaz
As I understand it, Rollin dal Piaz, who belongs to
this Bolger, group comissioned that design. And, the
last I heard, his plans have changed and he has no
immenent plans to build it. As is normal with PB&F,
they retain the rights to sell plans of all the boats
of their design. So, why don't you send a fax to PB&F
asking them for Yonder study plans, and/or a price for
full plans & the rights to build.
Yonder is a very ingenious boat design, specialized
for building by a 'backyard' boat shop. She is on my
short list of favorite 'big' boats to build.
--- Bill <wam_53@...> wrote:
this Bolger, group comissioned that design. And, the
last I heard, his plans have changed and he has no
immenent plans to build it. As is normal with PB&F,
they retain the rights to sell plans of all the boats
of their design. So, why don't you send a fax to PB&F
asking them for Yonder study plans, and/or a price for
full plans & the rights to build.
Yonder is a very ingenious boat design, specialized
for building by a 'backyard' boat shop. She is on my
short list of favorite 'big' boats to build.
--- Bill <wam_53@...> wrote:
> Does anyone know where I could find more info on
> Bolger's "Yonder"
> design? I saw a couple of drawings in the Bolger2
> or Bolger3 group
> but can't find anything else.
>
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There were several thousand words describing this boat in three consecutive
MAIB issues last year. While this does not help you with your current
problem, it serves as a good reminder to all of us that subscribing to MAIB
is a very good thing. You'll get two issues a month, each with a design
commentary from PCB. It's well worth the ~$30/year you pay for it.
MAIB issues last year. While this does not help you with your current
problem, it serves as a good reminder to all of us that subscribing to MAIB
is a very good thing. You'll get two issues a month, each with a design
commentary from PCB. It's well worth the ~$30/year you pay for it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill" <wam_53@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 8:44 AM
Subject: [bolger] Yonder
> Does anyone know where I could find more info on Bolger's "Yonder"
> design? I saw a couple of drawings in the Bolger2 or Bolger3 group
> but can't find anything else.
>
>
Does anyone know where I could find more info on Bolger's "Yonder"
design? I saw a couple of drawings in the Bolger2 or Bolger3 group
but can't find anything else.
design? I saw a couple of drawings in the Bolger2 or Bolger3 group
but can't find anything else.
I will have to wait until the Post man traverses the inland passage (3rd
and 4th class mail comes up by water) before I can view the full article.
Judging by your posting, this isn't some little 1 winter project.
HJ
Here is a low resolution scan
http://www.hallman.org/bolger/yonder.gif
... everyone should subscribe to MAIB!!!
to see the detailed version,
The highlighs in my mind about
Yonder are:
It combines most of the best recent
inovations from PB&F.
It has a plywood box beam keel, with a 2" steel
armor/ballast on the sole. Above the box keel
is a strip planked curved hull on eight plywood
frames. With the curved transom she will no
doubt be real pretty.
Ten feet+ beam which gives it a much better
galley, which is, according to Annie Hill, the
most important requirement of voyaging.
The sailplan is yet another refinement on
the trademark Bolger Chinese Gaff rig, this
time with a big reaching spinnaker and club
jib on a retractable bowsprit for good
light air sailing.
Amazingly, the masts are tabernacled, and
sails can be reefed in a storm from the
cockpit.
The other essentials show a lot of PB&F
thought IE: the anchors, motors, toilet,
water ballast, thermal insulation, home
built constructability, on the water
servicability, shoal draft, davits for
the tenders, no through-hull openings,
sensible rudder, hard dodger, ability to
discretely dump waste water, net positive
bouyancy, good electical system & bilge
pumps, and more.
In short, I think I have to build this
boat before building my Superbrick.
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and 4th class mail comes up by water) before I can view the full article.
Judging by your posting, this isn't some little 1 winter project.
HJ
Here is a low resolution scan
http://www.hallman.org/bolger/yonder.gif
... everyone should subscribe to MAIB!!!
to see the detailed version,
The highlighs in my mind about
Yonder are:
It combines most of the best recent
inovations from PB&F.
It has a plywood box beam keel, with a 2" steel
armor/ballast on the sole. Above the box keel
is a strip planked curved hull on eight plywood
frames. With the curved transom she will no
doubt be real pretty.
Ten feet+ beam which gives it a much better
galley, which is, according to Annie Hill, the
most important requirement of voyaging.
The sailplan is yet another refinement on
the trademark Bolger Chinese Gaff rig, this
time with a big reaching spinnaker and club
jib on a retractable bowsprit for good
light air sailing.
Amazingly, the masts are tabernacled, and
sails can be reefed in a storm from the
cockpit.
The other essentials show a lot of PB&F
thought IE: the anchors, motors, toilet,
water ballast, thermal insulation, home
built constructability, on the water
servicability, shoal draft, davits for
the tenders, no through-hull openings,
sensible rudder, hard dodger, ability to
discretely dump waste water, net positive
bouyancy, good electical system & bilge
pumps, and more.
In short, I think I have to build this
boat before building my Superbrick.
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--- HArry James <welshman@p...> wrote:
my earlier reply...again:
I posted a low resolution
scan of Yonder at:
http://www.hallman.org/bolger/yonder.gif
...see your latest issue of the
magazine Messing About in Boats
for a full detailed view.
The more I look at this new PB&F
design the more I like it! They
combine the best part of most of
their great new ideas into this
boat: Which benifits from the
latest evolution of their trademark
Bolger Chinese Gaff rig, with an
added reaching spinaker and club
foot jib mounted on a retractable
bow sprit.
Also, Yonder benifits from their latest
idea of steel armor plating (2"!) on a
box keel, but with the trick here
of having the main portion of the
hull being strip planked, with a
curved transom. This boat would
be very pretty to the eye.
The boat also has tons of 'practical'
Bolgerism's such as a big toilet room,
a comforable double bed, over-kill on
the anchors, no-through-hull openings,
positive buoyancy, well-thought-out
"one-off" building scheme, sensible
simple power, strong electical system,
liberal lexan windws, shoal draft,
ability to make repairs afloat,
tabernacled masts, tender davits,
water ballast, elegant simple rudder and more!
I want one!
And need to build a Yonder
before I build my Super-Brick.
> As usual I get the tantalizationLooks like the gremlins ate
> about a new Bolger design in MAIB long
> before the mailman brings fullfillment.
my earlier reply...again:
I posted a low resolution
scan of Yonder at:
http://www.hallman.org/bolger/yonder.gif
...see your latest issue of the
magazine Messing About in Boats
for a full detailed view.
The more I look at this new PB&F
design the more I like it! They
combine the best part of most of
their great new ideas into this
boat: Which benifits from the
latest evolution of their trademark
Bolger Chinese Gaff rig, with an
added reaching spinaker and club
foot jib mounted on a retractable
bow sprit.
Also, Yonder benifits from their latest
idea of steel armor plating (2"!) on a
box keel, but with the trick here
of having the main portion of the
hull being strip planked, with a
curved transom. This boat would
be very pretty to the eye.
The boat also has tons of 'practical'
Bolgerism's such as a big toilet room,
a comforable double bed, over-kill on
the anchors, no-through-hull openings,
positive buoyancy, well-thought-out
"one-off" building scheme, sensible
simple power, strong electical system,
liberal lexan windws, shoal draft,
ability to make repairs afloat,
tabernacled masts, tender davits,
water ballast, elegant simple rudder and more!
I want one!
And need to build a Yonder
before I build my Super-Brick.
--- HArry James <welshman@p...> wrote:
http://www.hallman.org/bolger/yonder.gif
... everyone should subscribe to MAIB!!!
to see the detailed version,
The highlighs in my mind about
Yonder are:
It combines most of the best recent
inovations from PB&F.
It has a plywood box beam keel, with a 2" steel
armor/ballast on the sole. Above the box keel
is a strip planked curved hull on eight plywood
frames. With the curved transom she will no
doubt be real pretty.
Ten feet+ beam which gives it a much better
galley, which is, according to Annie Hill, the
most important requirement of voyaging.
The sailplan is yet another refinement on
the trademark Bolger Chinese Gaff rig, this
time with a big reaching spinnaker and club
jib on a retractable bowsprit for good
light air sailing.
Amazingly, the masts are tabernacled, and
sails can be reefed in a storm from the
cockpit.
The other essentials show a lot of PB&F
thought IE: the anchors, motors, toilet,
water ballast, thermal insulation, home
built constructability, on the water
servicability, shoal draft, davits for
the tenders, no through-hull openings,
sensible rudder, hard dodger, ability to
discretely dump waste water, net positive
bouyancy, good electical system & bilge
pumps, and more.
In short, I think I have to build this
boat before building my Superbrick.
> As usual I get the tantalizationHere is a low resolution scan
> about a new Bolger design in MAIB long
> before the mailman brings fullfillment.
http://www.hallman.org/bolger/yonder.gif
... everyone should subscribe to MAIB!!!
to see the detailed version,
The highlighs in my mind about
Yonder are:
It combines most of the best recent
inovations from PB&F.
It has a plywood box beam keel, with a 2" steel
armor/ballast on the sole. Above the box keel
is a strip planked curved hull on eight plywood
frames. With the curved transom she will no
doubt be real pretty.
Ten feet+ beam which gives it a much better
galley, which is, according to Annie Hill, the
most important requirement of voyaging.
The sailplan is yet another refinement on
the trademark Bolger Chinese Gaff rig, this
time with a big reaching spinnaker and club
jib on a retractable bowsprit for good
light air sailing.
Amazingly, the masts are tabernacled, and
sails can be reefed in a storm from the
cockpit.
The other essentials show a lot of PB&F
thought IE: the anchors, motors, toilet,
water ballast, thermal insulation, home
built constructability, on the water
servicability, shoal draft, davits for
the tenders, no through-hull openings,
sensible rudder, hard dodger, ability to
discretely dump waste water, net positive
bouyancy, good electical system & bilge
pumps, and more.
In short, I think I have to build this
boat before building my Superbrick.
As usual I get the tantalization about a new Bolger design in MAIB long
before the mailman brings fullfillment.
HJ
Bruce Hallman wrote:
before the mailman brings fullfillment.
HJ
Bruce Hallman wrote:
>Is anybody else enthralled with
>the latest Bolger creation: Yonder?
>
>30' Chinese Cat Yawl
>
>In my latest MAIB, and I cannot
>wait for the promised next three
>installments.
>
>There is no doubt in my mind that
>PCB's recent designs are better than
>is early designs. I guess this is
>a combination of the acculation of
>his life experience, and no doubt
>also from his collabaration with
>SA.
>
>Once again, my reaction to an
>new PB&F boat design: I want one!
>
>
>
>
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Is anybody else enthralled with
the latest Bolger creation: Yonder?
30' Chinese Cat Yawl
In my latest MAIB, and I cannot
wait for the promised next three
installments.
There is no doubt in my mind that
PCB's recent designs are better than
is early designs. I guess this is
a combination of the acculation of
his life experience, and no doubt
also from his collabaration with
SA.
Once again, my reaction to an
new PB&F boat design: I want one!
the latest Bolger creation: Yonder?
30' Chinese Cat Yawl
In my latest MAIB, and I cannot
wait for the promised next three
installments.
There is no doubt in my mind that
PCB's recent designs are better than
is early designs. I guess this is
a combination of the acculation of
his life experience, and no doubt
also from his collabaration with
SA.
Once again, my reaction to an
new PB&F boat design: I want one!