[bolger] Re: Weighing In on the issue of small square boats
richard <richar-@...> wrote:
second boat goes easier than the first.
curve. Center 5
Phil Lea
Russellville, Arkansas
second boat goes easier than the first.
>.. toying with making a square canoe...from the > ends, I curve the sides and bottom together with the same
> Basicaly a rectangular box, 2 ft wide, 1 ft high. About 18 inches
curve. Center 5
> feet of the boat will be dead flat...Richard, let us know how it works -- I am interested.
>
> Comments welcome.
Phil Lea
Russellville, Arkansas
That projected canoe sounds pretty tender to me. Do you plan to sit on the
bottom and use a double paddle like a kayak?
Bill, who built a stripper that is just too tender by sooooo small an amount.
bottom and use a double paddle like a kayak?
Bill, who built a stripper that is just too tender by sooooo small an amount.
Teakdeck@...wrote:
may experiment with construction adhesive ... toying with making a square canoe...
Basicaly a rectangular box, 2 ft wide, 1 ft high. About 18 inches from the ends, I
curve the sides and bottom together with the same curve. Center 5 feet of the boat
will be dead flat...
Comments welcome.
weight... for some reason
Knots in your mast are BAD...
handy.
Tried using my staple gun on Entropy... went back to drywall screws. They clamp
and hold at the same time, and you can get fine adjustments in the clamping
pressure, and if you put them in the wrong spot, you back them out and run them in
again.
The staples didn't pull the work together very well. Tried ring shank nails too...
I'll stick to screws. Bought SS deck screws so I could leave some of them in
permanently...
>yep. and the third and forth go even faster...
> 1. The second boat goes easier than the first.
>
>tried weldwood. don't like it, will stick to epoxy. (with gloves)
> 2. Tried some 5200 glue? I didn't like it. Went back to Weldwood.
>
may experiment with construction adhesive ... toying with making a square canoe...
Basicaly a rectangular box, 2 ft wide, 1 ft high. About 18 inches from the ends, I
curve the sides and bottom together with the same curve. Center 5 feet of the boat
will be dead flat...
Comments welcome.
>build light to pickup truck too. also, lead in rudder and center/lee/sideboard add
> 3. Building as light as I can because I want to cartop this time (I trailer
> my Windsprint).
>
weight... for some reason
>maybe a little easier. make nice rubrails too... <grin>
> 4. Plan to use outside chines. I like the outside chine and I think it makes
> clamping the bottom on much easier.
>
>use drywall screws for clamps.
> 5. I have alot of clamps now. On my Windsprint I did not. More is better.
>
>I've only broken one mast, and I tend to go sailing on windy days....
> 6. I put together a 2" square cedar mast. Haven't shaved it to size yet. Will
> let you know how it turns out. Masts have been my nemisis.
>
Knots in your mast are BAD...
>I prefer water-tite cambers, especialy on small boats. The storage space is very
> 7. I plan to deck over a litte more of the boat and not put seats at the ends.
>
> 8. I'm going to use plastic milk bottles for flotation (under the decks of
> course).
>
handy.
>bummer, it's less than $10 here in OK. How much is AC fir in Wa?
> 9. Regarding lifting: If you are by yourself you should arrange to lift only
> half the boat at a time, right?
>
> 10. 1/4 inch Luan(sp) plywood is 19 bucks a sheet at Home Depot here in Oly,
> Wa.
>
>Table saw is handy, as is a power hand planer.
> 11. I hope to be able to use three rigs with this boat: the designed sprit
> rig, a lateen rig (one I made up for my Windsprint but still haven't tested)
> and third a design of my own experimenting with battens on a balanced lug
> sail.
>
> 12. I'm not using any epoxy. I'm allergic to it. I'm not fiberglassing
> anything, not even the chines. The hull is cheap. If it only lasts 10 years
> I'll build another one.
>
> 13. I think my next investments in tools will be a really nice, high powered,
> big table saw and an air powered staple gun like Greg uses.
>
Tried using my staple gun on Entropy... went back to drywall screws. They clamp
and hold at the same time, and you can get fine adjustments in the clamping
pressure, and if you put them in the wrong spot, you back them out and run them in
again.
The staples didn't pull the work together very well. Tried ring shank nails too...
I'll stick to screws. Bought SS deck screws so I could leave some of them in
permanently...
Bolgeramos,
What an interesting thread. Right now I'm building a version of June Bug on
my way to Oldshoe. Started this weekend. Here are a few thoughts:
1. The second boat goes easier than the first.
2. Tried some 5200 glue? I didn't like it. Went back to Weldwood.
3. Building as light as I can because I want to cartop this time (I trailer
my Windsprint).
4. Plan to use outside chines. I like the outside chine and I think it makes
clamping the bottom on much easier.
5. I have alot of clamps now. On my Windsprint I did not. More is better.
6. I put together a 2" square cedar mast. Haven't shaved it to size yet. Will
let you know how it turns out. Masts have been my nemisis.
7. I plan to deck over a litte more of the boat and not put seats at the ends.
8. I'm going to use plastic milk bottles for flotation (under the decks of
course).
9. Regarding lifting: If you are by yourself you should arrange to lift only
half the boat at a time, right?
10. 1/4 inch Luan(sp) plywood is 19 bucks a sheet at Home Depot here in Oly,
Wa.
11. I hope to be able to use three rigs with this boat: the designed sprit
rig, a lateen rig (one I made up for my Windsprint but still haven't tested)
and third a design of my own experimenting with battens on a balanced lug
sail.
12. I'm not using any epoxy. I'm allergic to it. I'm not fiberglassing
anything, not even the chines. The hull is cheap. If it only lasts 10 years
I'll build another one.
13. I think my next investments in tools will be a really nice, high powered,
big table saw and an air powered staple gun like Greg uses.
More to come,
MIke Masten
What an interesting thread. Right now I'm building a version of June Bug on
my way to Oldshoe. Started this weekend. Here are a few thoughts:
1. The second boat goes easier than the first.
2. Tried some 5200 glue? I didn't like it. Went back to Weldwood.
3. Building as light as I can because I want to cartop this time (I trailer
my Windsprint).
4. Plan to use outside chines. I like the outside chine and I think it makes
clamping the bottom on much easier.
5. I have alot of clamps now. On my Windsprint I did not. More is better.
6. I put together a 2" square cedar mast. Haven't shaved it to size yet. Will
let you know how it turns out. Masts have been my nemisis.
7. I plan to deck over a litte more of the boat and not put seats at the ends.
8. I'm going to use plastic milk bottles for flotation (under the decks of
course).
9. Regarding lifting: If you are by yourself you should arrange to lift only
half the boat at a time, right?
10. 1/4 inch Luan(sp) plywood is 19 bucks a sheet at Home Depot here in Oly,
Wa.
11. I hope to be able to use three rigs with this boat: the designed sprit
rig, a lateen rig (one I made up for my Windsprint but still haven't tested)
and third a design of my own experimenting with battens on a balanced lug
sail.
12. I'm not using any epoxy. I'm allergic to it. I'm not fiberglassing
anything, not even the chines. The hull is cheap. If it only lasts 10 years
I'll build another one.
13. I think my next investments in tools will be a really nice, high powered,
big table saw and an air powered staple gun like Greg uses.
More to come,
MIke Masten