Re: Wanted: Micro aux. advice
Jack & Lois,
I have a 6hp Tohatsu on my Chebacco and it is far more power than I
absolutely need - I usually motor at well below half throttle in the
4 - 5 knot range. This is a very nice motor. I think the best advice
would to get a 4 - 6 hp four stroke used - you should be able to find
one at or near your budget. Tohatsu also makes the Nissan and Mercury
four strokes, by the way.
Paul
Aboard the Chebacco "Samantha" Annapolis, MD
I have a 6hp Tohatsu on my Chebacco and it is far more power than I
absolutely need - I usually motor at well below half throttle in the
4 - 5 knot range. This is a very nice motor. I think the best advice
would to get a 4 - 6 hp four stroke used - you should be able to find
one at or near your budget. Tohatsu also makes the Nissan and Mercury
four strokes, by the way.
Paul
Aboard the Chebacco "Samantha" Annapolis, MD
Stick with your first choice. I've got the 5 horse Honda and it's a
great little motor. I like it because it starts easily, goes a long
way on a gallon of gas, and isn't as noisy or dirty as a two stroke.
It's also big enough to get you home on time when the weather
changes, leaving you a few miles downwind in 20 knot winds and big
waves to punch through (proved it again last Sunday).
Finally, I bought mine for $650 used, with the 3 gallon remote tank.
Good luck,
Jamie Orr
great little motor. I like it because it starts easily, goes a long
way on a gallon of gas, and isn't as noisy or dirty as a two stroke.
It's also big enough to get you home on time when the weather
changes, leaving you a few miles downwind in 20 knot winds and big
waves to punch through (proved it again last Sunday).
Finally, I bought mine for $650 used, with the 3 gallon remote tank.
Good luck,
Jamie Orr
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Jack&Lois" <jalo@i...> wrote:
> Greetings Bolger community. Have not posted for a while but have
kept tuned.
> Sounds like inspiring projects are afoot. Someday (after launch and
sea
> trials) I'll post a chronicled history of the agonony and ecstasy
of Micro
> restoration. For now I'll say there's light at the end of the
tunnel. In
> fact that light is so bright I've started shopping for an outboard.
I'd love
> some advice from anyone in the Micro community or any expert on
power to
> weight physics, etc. I know Bolger suggest max. 5 hp for Micro, but
I recall
> the pictures of Peter's Micro armed with a Miami Vice proportioned
motor. #1
> choice would be a brand new 4 stroke 5 hp Honda or the equivilant,
but
> mega-multiple litres of epoxy and cloth have left resourses
desperately
> depleted. So I'm hoping to find something in the $500-700 (Can)
range that
> will be trusty enough for venturing out into the formidable tides
of Fundy.
> Motor make recommendations, what to be wary of, and max. reasonable
power
> are things I'd love to have feedback on. Also wonder about length
of shaft.
> Does Micro need a long shaft? I haven't cut out the motor opening
on the new
> transom yet, so that may be optional. Look forward to responces.
>
> jeb, trying to come unglued in my solar workshop on the beckoning
shores of
> Fundy
Jack -
I had a 1974 4 hp Evinrude with a long shaft with my Micro. I found
it to be plenty sufficient. At top speed, I became concerned with
the water coming in through the drain holes as the boat just wallows
lower in its own bow wave rather than going any faster.
The 20" shaft worked great. It was always in the water but still
protected by the keel from grounding out! We would motor right on to
the trailer.
I miss my Micro and hope her new owner has had a chance to get out.
You don't appreciate a good building job until the boat is in someone
else's hands. I am currently refurbishing a 1968 Marshall Catboat,
and working with an all glass hull is definately more difficult than
working with wood. The glass fibers go everywhere, gelcoat blisters,
and attaching cabinets and hardware is a pain. With wood, it is
simply a matter of screw and glue half the time.
Happy Sailing.
David Jost
I had a 1974 4 hp Evinrude with a long shaft with my Micro. I found
it to be plenty sufficient. At top speed, I became concerned with
the water coming in through the drain holes as the boat just wallows
lower in its own bow wave rather than going any faster.
The 20" shaft worked great. It was always in the water but still
protected by the keel from grounding out! We would motor right on to
the trailer.
I miss my Micro and hope her new owner has had a chance to get out.
You don't appreciate a good building job until the boat is in someone
else's hands. I am currently refurbishing a 1968 Marshall Catboat,
and working with an all glass hull is definately more difficult than
working with wood. The glass fibers go everywhere, gelcoat blisters,
and attaching cabinets and hardware is a pain. With wood, it is
simply a matter of screw and glue half the time.
Happy Sailing.
David Jost
I belong to a yacht club where a 4hp can be found on a J24 to push it
out into the Atlantic and back...and they're probably using a 2stroke
because of weight considerations for racing...
out into the Atlantic and back...and they're probably using a 2stroke
because of weight considerations for racing...
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Jack&Lois" <jalo@i...> wrote:
> Greetings Bolger community. Have not posted for a while but have
kept tuned.
> Sounds like inspiring projects are afoot. Someday (after launch and
sea
> trials) I'll post a chronicled history of the agonony and ecstasy
of Micro
> restoration. For now I'll say there's light at the end of the
tunnel. In
> fact that light is so bright I've started shopping for an outboard.
I'd love
> some advice from anyone in the Micro community or any expert on
power to
> weight physics, etc. I know Bolger suggest max. 5 hp for Micro, but
I recall
> the pictures of Peter's Micro armed with a Miami Vice proportioned
motor. #1
> choice would be a brand new 4 stroke 5 hp Honda or the equivilant,
but
> mega-multiple litres of epoxy and cloth have left resourses
desperately
> depleted. So I'm hoping to find something in the $500-700 (Can)
range that
> will be trusty enough for venturing out into the formidable tides
of Fundy.
> Motor make recommendations, what to be wary of, and max. reasonable
power
> are things I'd love to have feedback on. Also wonder about length
of shaft.
> Does Micro need a long shaft? I haven't cut out the motor opening
on the new
> transom yet, so that may be optional. Look forward to responces.
>
> jeb, trying to come unglued in my solar workshop on the beckoning
shores of
> Fundy
Hi Jack,
Good to hear from you again! Four strokes ARE nice but if the
budget says "no-way",so be it. The photo of Lestat with that monster
on the transom was during a film shoot which required Lestat to
navigate rapids on a quick moving Laurentian river.
The normal power plant on Lestat is a Mercury 5hp which handles
the St.Lawrence river well.Not fast,but well.Do keep in mind the
relative hull speed of a Micro and you will not be disappointed.
If the outboard motor mount is as per plans,then no long shaft
is needed.However,if you find a real deal on one,no harm will come
from it since even a long shaft outboard(in the hp range we are
talking about) will not likely exceed the depth of the keel thus
keeping the prop protected.
Since the outboard opening has yet to be cut, you may wish to
consider doing your transom with an open top,like on Lestat.This will
require that you install a mainsheet horse traveller but give you the
chance to engage the full up tilt feature on most small
outboards.Otherwise,the opening per plan is just a wee bit too
short,even for the Merc 5hp(Bolger liked my idea very much when he
visited Lestat in '93 and saw no harm in opening up the cutout)
which will leave you dragging the prop through the water when
sailing. If you are planning on keeping your Micro in the water
throughout the summer months,salt corrosion on the lower unit may
also help to convince you that you need to get the motor completely
out of the water when not in use.
I can't really advise on the"best" outboard to buy since my only
experience is with the Merc.5hp. I can say that she has always
started when I neded her to and has never let me down.
Hopefully,others with more outboard experience will chime in
with useful info for you to sink your teeth into while you envision
some grand sailing out on the Bay!!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan, just back from my boatshop in the boonies and feeling
all primed for a very busy fun filled summer-o-building,hard on the
shores of the St.Lawrence............
Good to hear from you again! Four strokes ARE nice but if the
budget says "no-way",so be it. The photo of Lestat with that monster
on the transom was during a film shoot which required Lestat to
navigate rapids on a quick moving Laurentian river.
The normal power plant on Lestat is a Mercury 5hp which handles
the St.Lawrence river well.Not fast,but well.Do keep in mind the
relative hull speed of a Micro and you will not be disappointed.
If the outboard motor mount is as per plans,then no long shaft
is needed.However,if you find a real deal on one,no harm will come
from it since even a long shaft outboard(in the hp range we are
talking about) will not likely exceed the depth of the keel thus
keeping the prop protected.
Since the outboard opening has yet to be cut, you may wish to
consider doing your transom with an open top,like on Lestat.This will
require that you install a mainsheet horse traveller but give you the
chance to engage the full up tilt feature on most small
outboards.Otherwise,the opening per plan is just a wee bit too
short,even for the Merc 5hp(Bolger liked my idea very much when he
visited Lestat in '93 and saw no harm in opening up the cutout)
which will leave you dragging the prop through the water when
sailing. If you are planning on keeping your Micro in the water
throughout the summer months,salt corrosion on the lower unit may
also help to convince you that you need to get the motor completely
out of the water when not in use.
I can't really advise on the"best" outboard to buy since my only
experience is with the Merc.5hp. I can say that she has always
started when I neded her to and has never let me down.
Hopefully,others with more outboard experience will chime in
with useful info for you to sink your teeth into while you envision
some grand sailing out on the Bay!!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan, just back from my boatshop in the boonies and feeling
all primed for a very busy fun filled summer-o-building,hard on the
shores of the St.Lawrence............
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Jack&Lois" <jalo@i...> wrote:
> Greetings Bolger community. Have not posted for a while but have
kept tuned.
> Sounds like inspiring projects are afoot. Someday (after launch and
sea
> trials) I'll post a chronicled history of the agonony and ecstasy
of Micro
> restoration. For now I'll say there's light at the end of the
tunnel. In
> fact that light is so bright I've started shopping for an outboard.
I'd love
> some advice from anyone in the Micro community or any expert on
power to
> weight physics, etc. I know Bolger suggest max. 5 hp for Micro, but
I recall
> the pictures of Peter's Micro armed with a Miami Vice proportioned
motor. #1
> choice would be a brand new 4 stroke 5 hp Honda or the equivilant,
but
> mega-multiple litres of epoxy and cloth have left resourses
desperately
> depleted. So I'm hoping to find something in the $500-700 (Can)
range that
> will be trusty enough for venturing out into the formidable tides
of Fundy.
> Motor make recommendations, what to be wary of, and max. reasonable
power
> are things I'd love to have feedback on. Also wonder about length
of shaft.
> Does Micro need a long shaft? I haven't cut out the motor opening
on the new
> transom yet, so that may be optional. Look forward to responces.
>
> jeb, trying to come unglued in my solar workshop on the beckoning
shores of
> Fundy
Greetings Bolger community. Have not posted for a while but have kept tuned.
Sounds like inspiring projects are afoot. Someday (after launch and sea
trials) I'll post a chronicled history of the agonony and ecstasy of Micro
restoration. For now I'll say there's light at the end of the tunnel. In
fact that light is so bright I've started shopping for an outboard. I'd love
some advice from anyone in the Micro community or any expert on power to
weight physics, etc. I know Bolger suggest max. 5 hp for Micro, but I recall
the pictures of Peter's Micro armed with a Miami Vice proportioned motor. #1
choice would be a brand new 4 stroke 5 hp Honda or the equivilant, but
mega-multiple litres of epoxy and cloth have left resourses desperately
depleted. So I'm hoping to find something in the $500-700 (Can) range that
will be trusty enough for venturing out into the formidable tides of Fundy.
Motor make recommendations, what to be wary of, and max. reasonable power
are things I'd love to have feedback on. Also wonder about length of shaft.
Does Micro need a long shaft? I haven't cut out the motor opening on the new
transom yet, so that may be optional. Look forward to responces.
jeb, trying to come unglued in my solar workshop on the beckoning shores of
Fundy
Sounds like inspiring projects are afoot. Someday (after launch and sea
trials) I'll post a chronicled history of the agonony and ecstasy of Micro
restoration. For now I'll say there's light at the end of the tunnel. In
fact that light is so bright I've started shopping for an outboard. I'd love
some advice from anyone in the Micro community or any expert on power to
weight physics, etc. I know Bolger suggest max. 5 hp for Micro, but I recall
the pictures of Peter's Micro armed with a Miami Vice proportioned motor. #1
choice would be a brand new 4 stroke 5 hp Honda or the equivilant, but
mega-multiple litres of epoxy and cloth have left resourses desperately
depleted. So I'm hoping to find something in the $500-700 (Can) range that
will be trusty enough for venturing out into the formidable tides of Fundy.
Motor make recommendations, what to be wary of, and max. reasonable power
are things I'd love to have feedback on. Also wonder about length of shaft.
Does Micro need a long shaft? I haven't cut out the motor opening on the new
transom yet, so that may be optional. Look forward to responces.
jeb, trying to come unglued in my solar workshop on the beckoning shores of
Fundy