Re: tiller comb?
Instead of a tiller comb to trip over how about a strip of male
velcro acrosswise and a ring of female velcro on the tiller? Might
work in some applications.
Bruce Hector
velcro acrosswise and a ring of female velcro on the tiller? Might
work in some applications.
Bruce Hector
Derek,
On my Chebacco I tried several different arrangements to hold the
tiller before settling on a variation of the helm impeder mentioned a
couple of times already. Jam cleats did not work very well as it was
difficult to set the rudder at precisely the angle desired. I think a
tiller comb might present the same problem only worse.
My Chebacco, by the way, can be balanced on a close reach or beat
with the sails and without lashing the tiller. The Micro with
essentially the same rig will probably do the same. On a broad reach
or running I haven't found any way to make the boat stay on course
without constant attention to the helm.
The other stategy that I use is to heave to, as when I am going to
reef or shake out a reef. I do this by setting the mizzen and letting
the main luff.
Paul Thober
Aboard the Chebacco "Samantha" Annapolis, MD
On my Chebacco I tried several different arrangements to hold the
tiller before settling on a variation of the helm impeder mentioned a
couple of times already. Jam cleats did not work very well as it was
difficult to set the rudder at precisely the angle desired. I think a
tiller comb might present the same problem only worse.
My Chebacco, by the way, can be balanced on a close reach or beat
with the sails and without lashing the tiller. The Micro with
essentially the same rig will probably do the same. On a broad reach
or running I haven't found any way to make the boat stay on course
without constant attention to the helm.
The other stategy that I use is to heave to, as when I am going to
reef or shake out a reef. I do this by setting the mizzen and letting
the main luff.
Paul Thober
Aboard the Chebacco "Samantha" Annapolis, MD
Derek,
On my own boat I have used a length of shock-cord running between the
quarter knees, combined with a notch at the forward end of the tiller.
For those wishing to use the comb system, I have read somewhere that a
suitable comb can be made from a length of an old camshaft drive belt, out
of a car engine. These belts have internal teeth.
Alvan.
On my own boat I have used a length of shock-cord running between the
quarter knees, combined with a notch at the forward end of the tiller.
For those wishing to use the comb system, I have read somewhere that a
suitable comb can be made from a length of an old camshaft drive belt, out
of a car engine. These belts have internal teeth.
Alvan.
You could use the same solution I almost did on my Chebacco, since they both have the rudder post coming up into the boat.
Ah, you need to think outside the boxy boat!
Instead of trying to use something to hold the handle, use something to hold the shaft!
I was going to make a squeaze bracket made out of UHMW poly that clamps on the rudder post. There would be a bolt on it to adjust
how hard it is pressing on the post.
So, it would be tight enough so that the tiller stays where I put it, but loose enough I could move the tiller easily.
I haven't made the bracket yet, because by chance the rudder post fits with just the right tightness already! However, when it
looses up with time I'll put the adjustable rudder post brake thingy on.
You could work out some kind leaver action to clamp or release the shaft as well, instead of a bolt.
Ah, you need to think outside the boxy boat!
Instead of trying to use something to hold the handle, use something to hold the shaft!
I was going to make a squeaze bracket made out of UHMW poly that clamps on the rudder post. There would be a bolt on it to adjust
how hard it is pressing on the post.
So, it would be tight enough so that the tiller stays where I put it, but loose enough I could move the tiller easily.
I haven't made the bracket yet, because by chance the rudder post fits with just the right tightness already! However, when it
looses up with time I'll put the adjustable rudder post brake thingy on.
You could work out some kind leaver action to clamp or release the shaft as well, instead of a bolt.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Derek Waters" <dgw@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>; <Michalak@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 3:40 PM
Subject: [bolger] tiller comb?
> Suggestions please, on neat home-buildable methods for locking the tiller in
> place while single-handing. The boat in question is a Bolger Micro. Possible
> solutions I've considered are
> [1] a fold-down comb on the aft deck of the cockpit, (uncomfortable under
> the posterior)
> [2] a line athwart and a cleat on the tiller, (more strings in which to get
> entangled)
> [3] swinging the tiller up and engaging a comb on the forward edge of the
> transom cap. (getting a bit silly)
>
> Boat specifics aside, what has worked (or not) for you?
>
> Cheers
> Derek
>
>
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Derek Waters" <dgw@d...> wrote:
notched to accept a metal plate bolted to the side of the
tiller. With the tiller slightly angled up, it disengages
from the comb; depressing it slightly engages it. A transverse
beam across the aft end of the Micro cockpit might provide a
very simple way to do this; you wouldn't even need to make it
fold down.
> Suggestions please, on neat home-buildable methods for lockingOn the H&HS, the coaming on the aft edge of the cockpit is
> the tiller in place while single-handing.
notched to accept a metal plate bolted to the side of the
tiller. With the tiller slightly angled up, it disengages
from the comb; depressing it slightly engages it. A transverse
beam across the aft end of the Micro cockpit might provide a
very simple way to do this; you wouldn't even need to make it
fold down.
I have a Tiller Tamer on my 20-foot Matilda. It has worked great for the
last 6 years. I have no place for a tiller comb so it turned out to be a
great solution. Best of all, I can quickly disconnect the lines and wrap
them around the tiller before I put the tiller cover on.
Paul W. Esterle
Capt'n Pauley Video Productions
S/V Bryn Awel, Columbia 10.7
Bristol, Tenn. USA
http://www.captnpauley.bigstep.com
last 6 years. I have no place for a tiller comb so it turned out to be a
great solution. Best of all, I can quickly disconnect the lines and wrap
them around the tiller before I put the tiller cover on.
Paul W. Esterle
Capt'n Pauley Video Productions
S/V Bryn Awel, Columbia 10.7
Bristol, Tenn. USA
http://www.captnpauley.bigstep.com
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From: "pvanderwaart" <pvanderw@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 10:03 AM
Subject: [bolger] Re: tiller comb?
> >http://www.dca.uk.com/articles/himpeder.htm
>
> Davis sells a commercial version called the Tiller Tamer.
>
>http://www.davisnet.com/marine/products/marine_product.asp?pnum=2205
>
> It seems a little expensive to me (true also of other Davis
> products), but perhaps it has some subtlety of operation that makes
> it worth it.
>
> (Not a testimonial; I have no experience with these devices.)
>
> Peter
>
>
>
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>http://www.dca.uk.com/articles/himpeder.htmDavis sells a commercial version called the Tiller Tamer.
http://www.davisnet.com/marine/products/marine_product.asp?pnum=2205
It seems a little expensive to me (true also of other Davis
products), but perhaps it has some subtlety of operation that makes
it worth it.
(Not a testimonial; I have no experience with these devices.)
Peter
Derek,
Look here:http://www.thegreatsea.homestead.com/sharpiephotos.html
Down the page a ways you will see a picture of the cockpit of
Bolger's Skillygalee. The tiller is resting in a comb. The tiller is
hinged with a turnable piece of aluminum angle that holds the tiller
up so it clears the comb or releases it to fall a couple inches to
rest in the comb. The boat was self steering with the wind anywhere
forward of abeam with the tiller in the right slot. It was very handy
as a place to drop the tiller anytime to keep it from flopping around
when not sailing or underway.
fritz
Look here:http://www.thegreatsea.homestead.com/sharpiephotos.html
Down the page a ways you will see a picture of the cockpit of
Bolger's Skillygalee. The tiller is resting in a comb. The tiller is
hinged with a turnable piece of aluminum angle that holds the tiller
up so it clears the comb or releases it to fall a couple inches to
rest in the comb. The boat was self steering with the wind anywhere
forward of abeam with the tiller in the right slot. It was very handy
as a place to drop the tiller anytime to keep it from flopping around
when not sailing or underway.
fritz
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Derek Waters" <dgw@d...> wrote:
> Suggestions please, on neat home-buildable methods for locking the
tiller in
> place while single-handing. The boat in question is a Bolger Micro.
Possible
> solutions I've considered are
> [1] a fold-down comb on the aft deck of the cockpit, (uncomfortable
under
> the posterior)
> [2] a line athwart and a cleat on the tiller, (more strings in
which to get
> entangled)
> [3] swinging the tiller up and engaging a comb on the forward edge
of the
> transom cap. (getting a bit silly)
>
> Boat specifics aside, what has worked (or not) for you?
>
> Cheers
> Derek
Hi Derek,
Try this: Surgical tubing from coaming to tiller. 1/4" line from
tiller to block on opposite coaming to cleat. Set tension on surgical
tubing and adjust tiller to hold course. This is best for a broad
reach but works close hauled. If you have to do a lot of tacking
duplicate the arrangement on the opposite hand. Before I sold off my
copy of "Self Steering for Sailing Craft" I scanned 18 or so pages of
Sheet to tiller steering systems. If you want a copy send a self
addressed stamped envelope with enough postage for 10 pages of letter
sized paper. Most are too complicated for day sailing but the system
quoted above works nicely.
Bob Chamberland
Try this: Surgical tubing from coaming to tiller. 1/4" line from
tiller to block on opposite coaming to cleat. Set tension on surgical
tubing and adjust tiller to hold course. This is best for a broad
reach but works close hauled. If you have to do a lot of tacking
duplicate the arrangement on the opposite hand. Before I sold off my
copy of "Self Steering for Sailing Craft" I scanned 18 or so pages of
Sheet to tiller steering systems. If you want a copy send a self
addressed stamped envelope with enough postage for 10 pages of letter
sized paper. Most are too complicated for day sailing but the system
quoted above works nicely.
Bob Chamberland
>[1] a fold-down comb on the aft deck of the cockpit, (uncomfortable underTry looking at this:
>the posterior)
>[2] a line athwart and a cleat on the tiller, (more strings in which to get
>entangled)
>[3] swinging the tiller up and engaging a comb on the forward edge of the
>transom cap. (getting a bit silly)
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A hunk of bungee strung across the cockpit and a jamb cleat on the tiller. Quick to get on and off, and the bungee is easier to get around won't trip you as hard as line.
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From: Derek Waters
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com;Michalak@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 3:40 PM
Subject: [bolger] tiller comb?
Suggestions please, on neat home-buildable methods for locking the tiller in
place while single-handing. The boat in question is a Bolger Micro. Possible
solutions I've considered are
[1] a fold-down comb on the aft deck of the cockpit, (uncomfortable under
the posterior)
[2] a line athwart and a cleat on the tiller, (more strings in which to get
entangled)
[3] swinging the tiller up and engaging a comb on the forward edge of the
transom cap. (getting a bit silly)
Boat specifics aside, what has worked (or not) for you?
Cheers
Derek
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Suggestions please, on neat home-buildable methods for locking the tiller in
place while single-handing. The boat in question is a Bolger Micro. Possible
solutions I've considered are
[1] a fold-down comb on the aft deck of the cockpit, (uncomfortable under
the posterior)
[2] a line athwart and a cleat on the tiller, (more strings in which to get
entangled)
[3] swinging the tiller up and engaging a comb on the forward edge of the
transom cap. (getting a bit silly)
Boat specifics aside, what has worked (or not) for you?
Cheers
Derek
place while single-handing. The boat in question is a Bolger Micro. Possible
solutions I've considered are
[1] a fold-down comb on the aft deck of the cockpit, (uncomfortable under
the posterior)
[2] a line athwart and a cleat on the tiller, (more strings in which to get
entangled)
[3] swinging the tiller up and engaging a comb on the forward edge of the
transom cap. (getting a bit silly)
Boat specifics aside, what has worked (or not) for you?
Cheers
Derek