[bolger] Re: Sprit sail rig
>A line running down to the clew isn't likely to gather the sprit toCould be a topping lift to keep the boom up.
>the mast; instead, it would simply fold up part of the sail, while
>leaving the sprit in place.
>
>In looking through John Leather's book, the only drawings showing a
>line from the top of the mast to the clew are drawings of spritsails
>with a boom, and the text doesn't seem to explain what the line is
>for.
More likely it's a brail as used on the Delaware Ducker, which raises
the boom and sail.
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Are you sure? Everything I've looked at -- including John Leather's
book and an article by Ben Fuller in WoodenBoat -- shows a somewhat
different arrangement for brailing lines.
As I understand it, a brailing line doesn't run down to the clew.
Instead, it runs to a thimble or grommet located on the leech of the
sail, with the distance from this point to the peak being the same as
the distance from the peak to the throat.
A line running down to the clew isn't likely to gather the sprit to
the mast; instead, it would simply fold up part of the sail, while
leaving the sprit in place.
In looking through John Leather's book, the only drawings showing a
line from the top of the mast to the clew are drawings of spritsails
with a boom, and the text doesn't seem to explain what the line is
for.
Steve Paskey
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Ford and Mary Ann Walton
<waltons@n...> wrote:
then down to the base of the mast. It's used to gather the sprit and
sail up against the mast and out of the way. Maybe that is what one
of your
lines is.
book and an article by Ben Fuller in WoodenBoat -- shows a somewhat
different arrangement for brailing lines.
As I understand it, a brailing line doesn't run down to the clew.
Instead, it runs to a thimble or grommet located on the leech of the
sail, with the distance from this point to the peak being the same as
the distance from the peak to the throat.
A line running down to the clew isn't likely to gather the sprit to
the mast; instead, it would simply fold up part of the sail, while
leaving the sprit in place.
In looking through John Leather's book, the only drawings showing a
line from the top of the mast to the clew are drawings of spritsails
with a boom, and the text doesn't seem to explain what the line is
for.
Steve Paskey
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Ford and Mary Ann Walton
<waltons@n...> wrote:
> John,the clew, then back up to the top of the mast, through a sheave, and
>
> A "brailing line" runs from the top of the mast diagonally down to
then down to the base of the mast. It's used to gather the sprit and
sail up against the mast and out of the way. Maybe that is what one
of your
lines is.
>
> Ford Walton
John,
A "brailing line" runs from the top of the mast diagonally down to the
clew, then back up to the top of the mast, through a sheave, and then
down to the base of the mast. It's used to gather the sprit and sail up
against the mast and out of the way. Maybe that is what one of your
lines is.
Ford Walton
honestjohn37 wrote:
A "brailing line" runs from the top of the mast diagonally down to the
clew, then back up to the top of the mast, through a sheave, and then
down to the base of the mast. It's used to gather the sprit and sail up
against the mast and out of the way. Maybe that is what one of your
lines is.
Ford Walton
honestjohn37 wrote:
>
> Very helpful info, thanks all. There are no reefing points sewn into
> the sail, so I'm not sure abaout the possiblity of reefing it. The
> wheel in the slot at the masthead, from some old fots I've found,
> looks to be used for a rope that starts at the foot of the mast, tied
> to a belaying pin. It then goes up the mast throught the sheave(?)
> and diagonally down to the clew. Would that then function as a
> halyard to pull the mainsail and the sprit up to the mast? Dr. Craig
> O'Connel has sent me some very fine drawings and a picture with the
> parts of the rig from the clew back to the horse and then back to the
> clew again. That seems right. But what's that diagonal rope from the
> throat to the clew? Thanks again for your help, I'm almost there now.
> I'll keep you posted.
> Honest John
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, jhkohnen@b... wrote:
> > Many American workboat spritsails on small craft didn't have halyards
> > either. Pete Culler didn't bother with them. If the sail has a reef
> or two
> > you need a halyard however. I've cut mine off and tied a loop in the
> end, so
> > that when I unhitch it, it lets the sail drop just enough to reef. I've
> > never lowered the sail completely anyway, I just wrap it around the
> mast.
> >
> > If Honest John could send us a few photos or sketches of what he's
> got I'm
> > sure we could get him rigged up. Too bad that Scandinavian site went
> away,
> > it had some good info on how sprit rigs are rigged over there, most
> of us
> > here are more familiar with American practice...
> >
> > On Thu, 29 May 2003 07:49:09 -0400, Craig wrote:
> > > Interestingly enough MAST & SAIL IN EUROPE & ASIA says that Baltic
> > > boats generally had spritsails which were not haul up by halyard but
> > > tied to the mast, with a brailing line.
> > >
> > > Also, now that I picture it, if the sheet deadends at the "tail
> > > block" then it would be a 3:1 purchase on the sheet. I'm not clear
> > > from hj's verbal description.
> >
> > --
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Very helpful info, thanks all. There are no reefing points sewn into
the sail, so I'm not sure abaout the possiblity of reefing it. The
wheel in the slot at the masthead, from some old fots I've found,
looks to be used for a rope that starts at the foot of the mast, tied
to a belaying pin. It then goes up the mast throught the sheave(?)
and diagonally down to the clew. Would that then function as a
halyard to pull the mainsail and the sprit up to the mast? Dr. Craig
O'Connel has sent me some very fine drawings and a picture with the
parts of the rig from the clew back to the horse and then back to the
clew again. That seems right. But what's that diagonal rope from the
throat to the clew? Thanks again for your help, I'm almost there now.
I'll keep you posted.
Honest John
the sail, so I'm not sure abaout the possiblity of reefing it. The
wheel in the slot at the masthead, from some old fots I've found,
looks to be used for a rope that starts at the foot of the mast, tied
to a belaying pin. It then goes up the mast throught the sheave(?)
and diagonally down to the clew. Would that then function as a
halyard to pull the mainsail and the sprit up to the mast? Dr. Craig
O'Connel has sent me some very fine drawings and a picture with the
parts of the rig from the clew back to the horse and then back to the
clew again. That seems right. But what's that diagonal rope from the
throat to the clew? Thanks again for your help, I'm almost there now.
I'll keep you posted.
Honest John
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, jhkohnen@b... wrote:
> Many American workboat spritsails on small craft didn't have halyards
> either. Pete Culler didn't bother with them. If the sail has a reef
or two
> you need a halyard however. I've cut mine off and tied a loop in the
end, so
> that when I unhitch it, it lets the sail drop just enough to reef. I've
> never lowered the sail completely anyway, I just wrap it around the
mast.
>
> If Honest John could send us a few photos or sketches of what he's
got I'm
> sure we could get him rigged up. Too bad that Scandinavian site went
away,
> it had some good info on how sprit rigs are rigged over there, most
of us
> here are more familiar with American practice...
>
> On Thu, 29 May 2003 07:49:09 -0400, Craig wrote:
> > Interestingly enough MAST & SAIL IN EUROPE & ASIA says that Baltic
> > boats generally had spritsails which were not haul up by halyard but
> > tied to the mast, with a brailing line.
> >
> > Also, now that I picture it, if the sheet deadends at the "tail
> > block" then it would be a 3:1 purchase on the sheet. I'm not clear
> > from hj's verbal description.
>
> --
> John <jkohnen@b...>
>http://www.boat-links.com/
> Hanging is too good for a man who makes puns;
> he should be drawn and quoted. <Fred Allen>
Thanks Alvin, will do.
John
John
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "106146.2313" <ALVAN_EAMES@C...> wrote:
> John,
>
> If you do a Google search on the word "Snotter", you will get a
wealth of
> information on sprit rigs.
>
> Alvan.
John,
If you do a Google search on the word "Snotter", you will get a wealth of
information on sprit rigs.
Alvan.
If you do a Google search on the word "Snotter", you will get a wealth of
information on sprit rigs.
Alvan.
The on-going saga... Have I made it clear that the sail is
loose-fotted? There is no boom. Also, I can't understand why there
needs to be a halyard for the mainsail. I have assumed that it is
laced to the mast. Should the lacing be so loose that the sail could
theoretically be raised and lowered? I can't imagine, as you note,
that I would probably never want to lower the sail completely anyway.
The group has answered most of my questions, but the area of the
traveller and the sheet are still unclear. I have not got the
necessary wisdom to figure out how to send pictures to the group,
except to send them to individual (private) e-mail accounts as
attachments. Should it be possible to send attached pics wit these
messages?
Thanks, John
loose-fotted? There is no boom. Also, I can't understand why there
needs to be a halyard for the mainsail. I have assumed that it is
laced to the mast. Should the lacing be so loose that the sail could
theoretically be raised and lowered? I can't imagine, as you note,
that I would probably never want to lower the sail completely anyway.
The group has answered most of my questions, but the area of the
traveller and the sheet are still unclear. I have not got the
necessary wisdom to figure out how to send pictures to the group,
except to send them to individual (private) e-mail accounts as
attachments. Should it be possible to send attached pics wit these
messages?
Thanks, John
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, jhkohnen@b... wrote:
> Many American workboat spritsails on small craft didn't have halyards
> either. Pete Culler didn't bother with them. If the sail has a reef
or two
> you need a halyard however. I've cut mine off and tied a loop in the
end, so
> that when I unhitch it, it lets the sail drop just enough to reef. I've
> never lowered the sail completely anyway, I just wrap it around the
mast.
>
> If Honest John could send us a few photos or sketches of what he's
got I'm
> sure we could get him rigged up. Too bad that Scandinavian site went
away,
> it had some good info on how sprit rigs are rigged over there, most
of us
> here are more familiar with American practice...
>
> On Thu, 29 May 2003 07:49:09 -0400, Craig wrote:
> > Interestingly enough MAST & SAIL IN EUROPE & ASIA says that Baltic
> > boats generally had spritsails which were not haul up by halyard but
> > tied to the mast, with a brailing line.
> >
> > Also, now that I picture it, if the sheet deadends at the "tail
> > block" then it would be a 3:1 purchase on the sheet. I'm not clear
> > from hj's verbal description.
>
> --
> John <jkohnen@b...>
>http://www.boat-links.com/
> Hanging is too good for a man who makes puns;
> he should be drawn and quoted. <Fred Allen>
Many American workboat spritsails on small craft didn't have halyards
either. Pete Culler didn't bother with them. If the sail has a reef or two
you need a halyard however. I've cut mine off and tied a loop in the end, so
that when I unhitch it, it lets the sail drop just enough to reef. I've
never lowered the sail completely anyway, I just wrap it around the mast.
If Honest John could send us a few photos or sketches of what he's got I'm
sure we could get him rigged up. Too bad that Scandinavian site went away,
it had some good info on how sprit rigs are rigged over there, most of us
here are more familiar with American practice...
either. Pete Culler didn't bother with them. If the sail has a reef or two
you need a halyard however. I've cut mine off and tied a loop in the end, so
that when I unhitch it, it lets the sail drop just enough to reef. I've
never lowered the sail completely anyway, I just wrap it around the mast.
If Honest John could send us a few photos or sketches of what he's got I'm
sure we could get him rigged up. Too bad that Scandinavian site went away,
it had some good info on how sprit rigs are rigged over there, most of us
here are more familiar with American practice...
On Thu, 29 May 2003 07:49:09 -0400, Craig wrote:
> Interestingly enough MAST & SAIL IN EUROPE & ASIA says that Baltic
> boats generally had spritsails which were not haul up by halyard but
> tied to the mast, with a brailing line.
>
> Also, now that I picture it, if the sheet deadends at the "tail
> block" then it would be a 3:1 purchase on the sheet. I'm not clear
> from hj's verbal description.
--
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http://www.boat-links.com/
Hanging is too good for a man who makes puns;
he should be drawn and quoted. <Fred Allen>
Thanks ever so much guys, I was half expecting curses and comments of
'off-topic' and such. I'm trying to attach some pics to this msg. I guess
my limited vocabulary reached it's limits. Does this help? Opps! sorry,
two pics won't fit. I'll have to send more in seperate messages.
Honest John
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'off-topic' and such. I'm trying to attach some pics to this msg. I guess
my limited vocabulary reached it's limits. Does this help? Opps! sorry,
two pics won't fit. I'll have to send more in seperate messages.
Honest John
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There is no slot or other fitting for attaching the snotter. The mast
had a neatly tied loop which I am putting the sprit through, it seems
to be right. The sprit extends a bit forward of the mast, down low,
but not much.
Honest John
had a neatly tied loop which I am putting the sprit through, it seems
to be right. The sprit extends a bit forward of the mast, down low,
but not much.
Honest John
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "pvanderwaart" <pvanderw@o...> wrote:
> > If it's in the corner, it's for putting the sprit into.
> > Upper aft = peak.
>
> My mistake. I was thinking of a sleeve along one edge of the sail,
> but he didn't say that.
>
> How would you attach a snotter to the end of the sprit if there are
> no fittings? Is there a notch in the end?
>
> Peter
> If it's in the corner, it's for putting the sprit into.My mistake. I was thinking of a sleeve along one edge of the sail,
> Upper aft = peak.
but he didn't say that.
How would you attach a snotter to the end of the sprit if there are
no fittings? Is there a notch in the end?
Peter
>I'm confused by what the pocket in the sail is for. It wouldn't beIf it's in the corner, it's for putting the sprit into. Upper aft = peak.
>needed for this type of sprit rig, as far as I can see.
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> This will give you some idea of how to rig a spritsail.I'm confused by what the pocket in the sail is for. It wouldn't be
>http://www.bateau.com/tutorials/spritrig.htm
needed for this type of sprit rig, as far as I can see.
Peter
John Kohnen writes:
<snip>
Interestingly enough MAST & SAIL IN EUROPE & ASIA says that Baltic
boats generally had spritsails which were not haul up by halyard but
tied to the mast, with a brailing line.
Also, now that I picture it, if the sheet deadends at the "tail
block" then it would be a 3:1 purchase on the sheet. I'm not clear
from hj's verbal description.
--
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<snip>
Interestingly enough MAST & SAIL IN EUROPE & ASIA says that Baltic
boats generally had spritsails which were not haul up by halyard but
tied to the mast, with a brailing line.
Also, now that I picture it, if the sheet deadends at the "tail
block" then it would be a 3:1 purchase on the sheet. I'm not clear
from hj's verbal description.
--
Craig O'Donnell
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American Proas, the Bolger Boat Honor Roll,
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This will give you some idea of how to rig a spritsail.
http://www.bateau.com/tutorials/spritrig.htm
The halyard (for the sail) goes through the sheave at the masthead. The foot
of the sprit is held up by a line called the "snotter", which can be rigged
various ways. I used to have a link to a Scandinavian sprit rig site, but it
seems to be dead now. :o(
I have a spritsail on my sailing skiff. If you can send me a photo or two I
might be able to help you get your boat sailing.
http://www.bateau.com/tutorials/spritrig.htm
The halyard (for the sail) goes through the sheave at the masthead. The foot
of the sprit is held up by a line called the "snotter", which can be rigged
various ways. I used to have a link to a Scandinavian sprit rig site, but it
seems to be dead now. :o(
I have a spritsail on my sailing skiff. If you can send me a photo or two I
might be able to help you get your boat sailing.
On Wed, 28 May 2003 21:26:19 -0000, Honest John wrote:
>...
> > Umm, I'm sorry if this is a redundant question, but I have just bought
> > a small sailing keelboat from someone who had never sailed the boat
> > and knew very little about about the rig. He said it was a 'Lateen'
> > rig in his ad. I have finally determined that it is a sprit sail rig
> > with a jib.
> ...
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About the "sheet" - follow carefully, here's my guess.
1. Short tail knotted to clew of sail.
2. Loose-running block goes on horse.
3. Sheet goes back through block at clew.
4. Back to your hand.
This would make a 2:1 purchase, which is the minimum you'd need on a
sail like this.
PS. I can consult my copy of John Leather's "Spritsail and Lugsail"
for more, perhaps I can find this specific boat type if it has a name.
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1. Short tail knotted to clew of sail.
2. Loose-running block goes on horse.
3. Sheet goes back through block at clew.
4. Back to your hand.
This would make a 2:1 purchase, which is the minimum you'd need on a
sail like this.
PS. I can consult my copy of John Leather's "Spritsail and Lugsail"
for more, perhaps I can find this specific boat type if it has a name.
--
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Also, look at
http://www.friend.ly.net/~dadadata/smyth/mast_n_sail_02.html#II
Where Warington-Smyth describes Baltic boats and rigs. I have the
"missing" drawings; I omitted a number of them for disk space
reasons, but the text describes various rig details.
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http://www.friend.ly.net/~dadadata/smyth/mast_n_sail_02.html#II
Where Warington-Smyth describes Baltic boats and rigs. I have the
"missing" drawings; I omitted a number of them for disk space
reasons, but the text describes various rig details.
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>There is aThis is the snotter. The lower end of the sprit goes into the eye and
>short, 1.5' wire with an eye at one end
the tail attaches to the mast.
(or else, the snotter goes through its own eye, around the mast, and
the loose end fastens to the sprit by passing through a slot in one
end of the sprit, and back to a cleat mounted on the sprit. This
could be one of the Mystery Cleats).
Otherwise I'm not sure how the snotter is supposed to attach to the
mast from your description.
There are several different ways of rigging a snotter. Another
involves a line from the end of the sprit through the masthead block
you noticed and down the other side to a cleat. This "standing lift"
type snotter certainly is seen on Dutch craft.
Craig O'Donnell
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I can see that you have a puzzle to work out. I assume from what you
wrote that the sail has four sides, with a pocket for the sprit at
the top. Does the forward side (the luff) have grommets for lacing to
attach it to the mast? If so, the there is probably a halyard that
runs through the pulley at the top of the mast and attaches to the
front, top corner of the sail (the throat).
It seems more likely to me that what you have is a standing lug rig.
In that case the sail would not attach to the mast, and the halyard
would be tied about mid-way long the sprit (actually a yard, in this
case).
I guess we need more info. Does the boat have a type name (like dory,
or hardangersjekte)?
Peter
wrote that the sail has four sides, with a pocket for the sprit at
the top. Does the forward side (the luff) have grommets for lacing to
attach it to the mast? If so, the there is probably a halyard that
runs through the pulley at the top of the mast and attaches to the
front, top corner of the sail (the throat).
It seems more likely to me that what you have is a standing lug rig.
In that case the sail would not attach to the mast, and the halyard
would be tied about mid-way long the sprit (actually a yard, in this
case).
I guess we need more info. Does the boat have a type name (like dory,
or hardangersjekte)?
Peter
>Oh, I said there were no fittings on the mast, but in fact there is aLet's start there. That would be for a halyard.
>single wheel in a slot at the masthead. Is that for a halyard for the
>sprit, or is it for a halyard for the sail?
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "honestjohn37" <honestjohn37@h...> wrote:
Oh, I said there were no fittings on the mast, but in fact there is a
single wheel in a slot at the masthead. Is that for a halyard for the
sprit, or is it for a halyard for the sail?
> Umm, I'm sorry if this is a redundant question, but I have just bought
> a small sailing keelboat from someone who had never sailed the boat
> and knew very little about about the rig. He said it was a 'Lateen'
> rig in his ad. I have finally determined that it is a sprit sail rig
> with a jib. The boat is 16' clinkerbuilt in larch on oak; no
> centerboard, but a flat keel with a metal strip to protect it when
> being pulled up the beach. It's an old Scandinavian type round bilged
> with a flat slightly angled stern. Now thw question: How do I rig it?
> The mainsail has a 'pocket' at the peak for the sprit, and there is a
> wire traveller athwart the stearn thwart. The mast is lying in the
> boat, and there are no fittings on it at all. The peak of the mast is
> reduced in diameter so that three shrouds can be run down to eyes on
> the port and starboard gunnels with one down to a simple hole drilled
> in the stem which rises about 9 inches above the bows. There is a
> sheet, about 20' long with a block loosely running on it, and another
> block tied to one end with a bit more line attached. There is a
> short, 1.5' wire with an eye at one end and another 20' line with
> aloose block. There are two wooden belaying pins mounted in holes
> just before the mast, and a wooden cleat fastened to the inside edge
> of the stern thwart. There are also two loose wooden cleats but the
> owner couldn't tell me where they should be mounted. I've checked out
> probably 100 links I located on Google, but no clear pics or diagrams
> are out there evidently. The sprit has no fittings, but is tapered at
> both ends. Anybody able to give some help? Thanks, the weathers
> really nice here in Copenhagen, Denmark, and I'm really ready to get
> sailing.
Umm, I'm sorry if this is a redundant question, but I have just bought
a small sailing keelboat from someone who had never sailed the boat
and knew very little about about the rig. He said it was a 'Lateen'
rig in his ad. I have finally determined that it is a sprit sail rig
with a jib. The boat is 16' clinkerbuilt in larch on oak; no
centerboard, but a flat keel with a metal strip to protect it when
being pulled up the beach. It's an old Scandinavian type round bilged
with a flat slightly angled stern. Now thw question: How do I rig it?
The mainsail has a 'pocket' at the peak for the sprit, and there is a
wire traveller athwart the stearn thwart. The mast is lying in the
boat, and there are no fittings on it at all. The peak of the mast is
reduced in diameter so that three shrouds can be run down to eyes on
the port and starboard gunnels with one down to a simple hole drilled
in the stem which rises about 9 inches above the bows. There is a
sheet, about 20' long with a block loosely running on it, and another
block tied to one end with a bit more line attached. There is a
short, 1.5' wire with an eye at one end and another 20' line with
aloose block. There are two wooden belaying pins mounted in holes
just before the mast, and a wooden cleat fastened to the inside edge
of the stern thwart. There are also two loose wooden cleats but the
owner couldn't tell me where they should be mounted. I've checked out
probably 100 links I located on Google, but no clear pics or diagrams
are out there evidently. The sprit has no fittings, but is tapered at
both ends. Anybody able to give some help? Thanks, the weathers
really nice here in Copenhagen, Denmark, and I'm really ready to get
sailing.
a small sailing keelboat from someone who had never sailed the boat
and knew very little about about the rig. He said it was a 'Lateen'
rig in his ad. I have finally determined that it is a sprit sail rig
with a jib. The boat is 16' clinkerbuilt in larch on oak; no
centerboard, but a flat keel with a metal strip to protect it when
being pulled up the beach. It's an old Scandinavian type round bilged
with a flat slightly angled stern. Now thw question: How do I rig it?
The mainsail has a 'pocket' at the peak for the sprit, and there is a
wire traveller athwart the stearn thwart. The mast is lying in the
boat, and there are no fittings on it at all. The peak of the mast is
reduced in diameter so that three shrouds can be run down to eyes on
the port and starboard gunnels with one down to a simple hole drilled
in the stem which rises about 9 inches above the bows. There is a
sheet, about 20' long with a block loosely running on it, and another
block tied to one end with a bit more line attached. There is a
short, 1.5' wire with an eye at one end and another 20' line with
aloose block. There are two wooden belaying pins mounted in holes
just before the mast, and a wooden cleat fastened to the inside edge
of the stern thwart. There are also two loose wooden cleats but the
owner couldn't tell me where they should be mounted. I've checked out
probably 100 links I located on Google, but no clear pics or diagrams
are out there evidently. The sprit has no fittings, but is tapered at
both ends. Anybody able to give some help? Thanks, the weathers
really nice here in Copenhagen, Denmark, and I'm really ready to get
sailing.