Re: Bolger in MAIB
What's the boat your talking about in MAIB? My sub hasn't started
yet?
yet?
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "bgbeck55" <bgbeck55@y...> wrote:
> O.K. I guess I'll shut up. The primary reason I subscribe to
MAIB
> is for Bolger's pieces. When they spend three issues covering one
> big boat that I don't care about, I feel a little cheated. I'd like
> to see some discussions on designs that are for sale, but haven't
> been graced with an article. "Diablo Grande" and "Fishcat" come to
> mind. I'm sure there are others mentioned in passing or originally
> sold by some one else,( like Payson, CSB, Capt Orell)that haven't
> been discussed either. It would be interesting to know what PCB was
> thinking when he
> designed them.
> Bruce
>
>
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Lenihan" <ellengaest@b...>
> wrote:
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "bgbeck55" <bgbeck55@y...> wrote:
> > > What happened to the boats somebody might actually build?
> >
> >
> > What you see in MAIB are the results of commissions(usually)
> > and,believe it or not,they do get built. Otherwise, there already
> > exists a whole slew of neat,small and easily built small boats
> > readily available in any one of his published books.
> > It may also be worth noting that,with most of the bigger
> designs,our
> > Hero does show at least one small boat/dinghy. I suspect that the
> > dinghy chosen to go with the bigger boat is deamed more then
> adequate
> > for the intended service/use scenarios.Little point in trying to
> re-
> > invent something as basic as the wheel :-)
> > Do not despair!
> >
> > sincerely,
> >
> > Peter Lenihan,epoxy already on,safely tucked under the jig out of
> the
> > rain and back home............
O.K. I guess I'll shut up. The primary reason I subscribe to MAIB
is for Bolger's pieces. When they spend three issues covering one
big boat that I don't care about, I feel a little cheated. I'd like
to see some discussions on designs that are for sale, but haven't
been graced with an article. "Diablo Grande" and "Fishcat" come to
mind. I'm sure there are others mentioned in passing or originally
sold by some one else,( like Payson, CSB, Capt Orell)that haven't
been discussed either. It would be interesting to know what PCB was
thinking when he
designed them.
Bruce
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Lenihan" <ellengaest@b...>
wrote:
is for Bolger's pieces. When they spend three issues covering one
big boat that I don't care about, I feel a little cheated. I'd like
to see some discussions on designs that are for sale, but haven't
been graced with an article. "Diablo Grande" and "Fishcat" come to
mind. I'm sure there are others mentioned in passing or originally
sold by some one else,( like Payson, CSB, Capt Orell)that haven't
been discussed either. It would be interesting to know what PCB was
thinking when he
designed them.
Bruce
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Lenihan" <ellengaest@b...>
wrote:
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "bgbeck55" <bgbeck55@y...> wrote:designs,our
> > What happened to the boats somebody might actually build?
>
>
> What you see in MAIB are the results of commissions(usually)
> and,believe it or not,they do get built. Otherwise, there already
> exists a whole slew of neat,small and easily built small boats
> readily available in any one of his published books.
> It may also be worth noting that,with most of the bigger
> Hero does show at least one small boat/dinghy. I suspect that theadequate
> dinghy chosen to go with the bigger boat is deamed more then
> for the intended service/use scenarios.Little point in trying tore-
> invent something as basic as the wheel :-)the
> Do not despair!
>
> sincerely,
>
> Peter Lenihan,epoxy already on,safely tucked under the jig out of
> rain and back home............
Sounds like the basis for a fax to the "Wizard of Gloucester" to me.
You'll never know until you ask him.
Bruce Hector
You'll never know until you ask him.
Bruce Hector
--- "Peter Lenihan" <ellengaest@b...> wrote:
I am familiar with the plywood
wind surf boards designed by PCB.
Rather, I am curious about his
ideas about a 'surf' surfboard.
I know little, but can see there is
an immense body of 'conventional
wisdom' and evolved experience with
surfboard design. It somehow
reminds me of 'sailboat design',
evolved over time by people who
may [or may not] know 'what and why'.
See:
http://scsurfers.com/boardpage.html
Partially an art, partially a science.
With rail theory, nose & tail shape,
fin(s), elasticity, strength:weight
ratios, mostly I would love to read
a PCB commentary where he debunks the
superstition, and brings his vast
experience in hydrodynamics and a
fresh 'creative eye' focused on
surfboard design.
Surfboards are a type of 'boat'.
I bet he would enjoy the mental exercise,
if he has not already given this some
thought.
Not to mention, most Surfers I have
met tend towards a Libertarian bent.
> Is the water cold in "Surf city USA" ?Yes, wetsuits required.
I am familiar with the plywood
wind surf boards designed by PCB.
Rather, I am curious about his
ideas about a 'surf' surfboard.
I know little, but can see there is
an immense body of 'conventional
wisdom' and evolved experience with
surfboard design. It somehow
reminds me of 'sailboat design',
evolved over time by people who
may [or may not] know 'what and why'.
See:
http://scsurfers.com/boardpage.html
Partially an art, partially a science.
With rail theory, nose & tail shape,
fin(s), elasticity, strength:weight
ratios, mostly I would love to read
a PCB commentary where he debunks the
superstition, and brings his vast
experience in hydrodynamics and a
fresh 'creative eye' focused on
surfboard design.
Surfboards are a type of 'boat'.
I bet he would enjoy the mental exercise,
if he has not already given this some
thought.
Not to mention, most Surfers I have
met tend towards a Libertarian bent.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hallman" <brucehallman@y...>
wrote:
Is the water cold in"Surf city USA" ? If so, there is also design
number 301,page 31 The Folding Schooner and other adventures in boat
design. Hopefully, your daughter has a sense of humour :-)
Peter Lenihan
wrote:
>Bruce,
> Has PCB/PB&F designed lines for
> a surf board?
Is the water cold in"Surf city USA" ? If so, there is also design
number 301,page 31 The Folding Schooner and other adventures in boat
design. Hopefully, your daughter has a sense of humour :-)
Peter Lenihan
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "bgbeck55" <bgbeck55@y...> wrote:
and,believe it or not,they do get built. Otherwise, there already
exists a whole slew of neat,small and easily built small boats
readily available in any one of his published books.
It may also be worth noting that,with most of the bigger designs,our
Hero does show at least one small boat/dinghy. I suspect that the
dinghy chosen to go with the bigger boat is deamed more then adequate
for the intended service/use scenarios.Little point in trying to re-
invent something as basic as the wheel :-)
Do not despair!
sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,epoxy already on,safely tucked under the jig out of the
rain and back home............
> What happened to the boats somebody might actually build?What you see in MAIB are the results of commissions(usually)
and,believe it or not,they do get built. Otherwise, there already
exists a whole slew of neat,small and easily built small boats
readily available in any one of his published books.
It may also be worth noting that,with most of the bigger designs,our
Hero does show at least one small boat/dinghy. I suspect that the
dinghy chosen to go with the bigger boat is deamed more then adequate
for the intended service/use scenarios.Little point in trying to re-
invent something as basic as the wheel :-)
Do not despair!
sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,epoxy already on,safely tucked under the jig out of the
rain and back home............
Dynamite Payson has something close
Bill
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Hallman
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 10:27 AM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Bolger in MAIB
--- "Bruce Hector" wrote:
> I can't think of any type of
> small boat that he doesn't already
> have a shelf plan for.
Living here, in 'Surf City USA'
my daughter is begging for a
surf board, which, of course,
I want to build.
Has PCB/PB&F designed lines for
a surf board?
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hallman" <brucehallman@y...>
wrote:
the best I can see is design number 406,but it was to be used as a
windesurfer...........
Page 8,30 odd boats
Peter Lenihan
wrote:
>Bruce,
> Has PCB/PB&F designed lines for
> a surf board?
the best I can see is design number 406,but it was to be used as a
windesurfer...........
Page 8,30 odd boats
Peter Lenihan
--- "Bruce Hector" wrote:
my daughter is begging for a
surf board, which, of course,
I want to build.
Has PCB/PB&F designed lines for
a surf board?
> I can't think of any type ofLiving here, in 'Surf City USA'
> small boat that he doesn't already
> have a shelf plan for.
my daughter is begging for a
surf board, which, of course,
I want to build.
Has PCB/PB&F designed lines for
a surf board?
Probably no one has given him a commission for anything new and
interesting in the small boat field. Off the top of my head, I can't
think of any type of small boat that he doesn't already have a shelf
plan for.
Do you have anything in particular in mind?
If so, wrtite him with your wish list, I beliece he still loves the
litte boats. Economically speaking 1000 sets of $50 plans is more
income than a half dozen $2000 sets.
Bruce Hector
Thanking Chuck for repairing my mistakes in the Messabout article and
waiting for the rain to stop so we can slap the first coat of varnish
on the Seagull's hull..
interesting in the small boat field. Off the top of my head, I can't
think of any type of small boat that he doesn't already have a shelf
plan for.
Do you have anything in particular in mind?
If so, wrtite him with your wish list, I beliece he still loves the
litte boats. Economically speaking 1000 sets of $50 plans is more
income than a half dozen $2000 sets.
Bruce Hector
Thanking Chuck for repairing my mistakes in the Messabout article and
waiting for the rain to stop so we can slap the first coat of varnish
on the Seagull's hull..
no money in them. Besides, there are only so many ways you can draw an eight foot dingy!
----- Original Message -----
From: "bgbeck55" <bgbeck55@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 8:22 PM
Subject: [bolger] Bolger in MAIB
> Anybody else feel like the Bolgers have forgotten about small
> boats? It seems as if everything lately is some humongus cruiser of
> some sort. What happened to the boats somebody might actually build?
>
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred' posts
> - add your comments at the TOP and SIGN your posts and <snip> away
> - To order plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930, Fax: (978) 282-1349
> - Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> - Open discussion:bolger_coffee_lounge-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject tohttp://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
Anybody else feel like the Bolgers have forgotten about small
boats? It seems as if everything lately is some humongus cruiser of
some sort. What happened to the boats somebody might actually build?
boats? It seems as if everything lately is some humongus cruiser of
some sort. What happened to the boats somebody might actually build?