Re: Groundhog à la King
Notice that I said it was a piece of fiction! You do have to be pretty
careful about this. Also notice I said a "little" gasoline, which I
think was just a few ounces, perhaps only one or two. and all the other
warnings, etc. One nice feature is that the volume of a woodchuck hole
is not very large so there isn't room for much gas if mixed at proper
ratio with air. This is not true in calm air on surface. However, the
hole can still spew a pretty impressive flame which I'm sure would cause
severe burns. Anyway, the reason I mentioned using engine exhaust is
that I thought it avoided most of the problems the pyro method involves,
though if the "back door" turns out to be inside a building.....
careful about this. Also notice I said a "little" gasoline, which I
think was just a few ounces, perhaps only one or two. and all the other
warnings, etc. One nice feature is that the volume of a woodchuck hole
is not very large so there isn't room for much gas if mixed at proper
ratio with air. This is not true in calm air on surface. However, the
hole can still spew a pretty impressive flame which I'm sure would cause
severe burns. Anyway, the reason I mentioned using engine exhaust is
that I thought it avoided most of the problems the pyro method involves,
though if the "back door" turns out to be inside a building.....
>Peter Lenihan wrote:[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Lincoln Ross <lincolnr@r...> wrote:
>
>
>>>
>>> Many years ago I used to drip a little gasoline thru a hose into
>>> groundhog holes.
>>
>>
>
>Lincoln,
> Sounds like a fun idea but I really don't want to set my jig
>or stored wood on fire not to mention having no idea where this
>critters back door is situated. The boatyard may also have their
>opinions regarding underground explosions and flames shooting out of
>their property.Their lawyers are not nice people........no sense of
>humour :-(
> But it does tickle the pyro in me nevertheless :-)
>
>Sincerely,
>Peter Lenihan........
>
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, sctree <sctree@d...> wrote:
> What works out here for tunneling varmints is exhaust. Car, truck,
> lawnmower, or whatever internal combustion engine is handy
connected to
> a bit of hose, junk tailpipe or whatever to get it down the hole. A
few
> minutes at idle will ruin the critters day.
> One of the local gardeners has an old bladeless lawnmower that has
the
> muffler replaced with a short piece of 1/2" pipe that is connected
to
> some garden hose. Very portable and "looks the part" of some sort
of
> gardening operation. I often see it idling away near a gopherhole.
I
> bet more than half his clients have no clue how he's keeping the
> gophers out of their lawns......
>
> Rick
What works out here for tunneling varmints is exhaust. Car, truck,
lawnmower, or whatever internal combustion engine is handy connected to
a bit of hose, junk tailpipe or whatever to get it down the hole. A few
minutes at idle will ruin the critters day.
One of the local gardeners has an old bladeless lawnmower that has the
muffler replaced with a short piece of 1/2" pipe that is connected to
some garden hose. Very portable and "looks the part" of some sort of
gardening operation. I often see it idling away near a gopherhole. I
bet more than half his clients have no clue how he's keeping the
gophers out of their lawns......
Rick
lawnmower, or whatever internal combustion engine is handy connected to
a bit of hose, junk tailpipe or whatever to get it down the hole. A few
minutes at idle will ruin the critters day.
One of the local gardeners has an old bladeless lawnmower that has the
muffler replaced with a short piece of 1/2" pipe that is connected to
some garden hose. Very portable and "looks the part" of some sort of
gardening operation. I often see it idling away near a gopherhole. I
bet more than half his clients have no clue how he's keeping the
gophers out of their lawns......
Rick
> Many years ago I used to drip a little gasoline thru a hose intolighting (a
> groundhog holes. If I waited the right amount of time before
> couple of minutes?)In South Georgia at the rattlesnake roundups you put just a little
gasoline down the hose and do not light it. The fumes drive the
snake out so you can catch it live. Too much gas and they don't come
out - they may pass out or die in the hole.
Mothballs or something they don't like may work.
Charles
A further comment.
While clearing the lot before building the current James Mansion, I
stacked the cut brush and alders up in a big pile on which I poured my
left over old outboard gas. It was a clear, very calm, cool Nov.
morning. I figured it was fairly safe with the cool weather. Knowing the
danger of gasoline, I got a 15 ft long stick put a rag on it with a
little more gas, and with my back to the brush stack 20 ft away
proceeded to light the the rag. CAFAWHOOMP!!. Later I could see in the
frost that it blew 10 feet farther out from where I was for an explosion
diameter of over 60 ft. After the requisite flop drop and roll, I headed
to my local doctors office. I found that if you walk into a clinic still
smoking, you go right to the head of the line.
I also found that friends don't forget events like this even if 5 years
go by. Little comments like "look out Harry's got matches in his hand",
still follow me around.
The bottom line is gas is every bit as dangerous as it is reputed to be.
The brush didn't burn, I had to use diesel to get it to go.
HJ
Lincoln Ross wrote:
While clearing the lot before building the current James Mansion, I
stacked the cut brush and alders up in a big pile on which I poured my
left over old outboard gas. It was a clear, very calm, cool Nov.
morning. I figured it was fairly safe with the cool weather. Knowing the
danger of gasoline, I got a 15 ft long stick put a rag on it with a
little more gas, and with my back to the brush stack 20 ft away
proceeded to light the the rag. CAFAWHOOMP!!. Later I could see in the
frost that it blew 10 feet farther out from where I was for an explosion
diameter of over 60 ft. After the requisite flop drop and roll, I headed
to my local doctors office. I found that if you walk into a clinic still
smoking, you go right to the head of the line.
I also found that friends don't forget events like this even if 5 years
go by. Little comments like "look out Harry's got matches in his hand",
still follow me around.
The bottom line is gas is every bit as dangerous as it is reputed to be.
The brush didn't burn, I had to use diesel to get it to go.
HJ
Lincoln Ross wrote:
>The following is a piece of historical fiction. Any resemblance to
>anything you might try and blow yourself up and get me sued is most
>definitely a figment of your lawyer's imagination:
>
>Many years ago I used to drip a little gasoline thru a hose into
>groundhog holes. If I waited the right amount of time before lighting (a
>couple of minutes?) there would either be a very large thud or a long
>whooshing flame streaming out of the hole. Obvioiusly this was not
>something to do when the ground was really dry or if the "back door" to
>the burrow was inside a building. Also, I was very careful how I lit
>this, especially with respect to standing back and out of the direction
>the hole pointed in. Probably I should have tried a hose taped to a car
>tailpipe and then sealed to the entry tunnel, to flow thru and go out
>the "back door". It also occurs to me now that there are flammable
>things which wouldn't contaminate the water table in the same way.
>
>
The following is a piece of historical fiction. Any resemblance to
anything you might try and blow yourself up and get me sued is most
definitely a figment of your lawyer's imagination:
Many years ago I used to drip a little gasoline thru a hose into
groundhog holes. If I waited the right amount of time before lighting (a
couple of minutes?) there would either be a very large thud or a long
whooshing flame streaming out of the hole. Obvioiusly this was not
something to do when the ground was really dry or if the "back door" to
the burrow was inside a building. Also, I was very careful how I lit
this, especially with respect to standing back and out of the direction
the hole pointed in. Probably I should have tried a hose taped to a car
tailpipe and then sealed to the entry tunnel, to flow thru and go out
the "back door". It also occurs to me now that there are flammable
things which wouldn't contaminate the water table in the same way.
anything you might try and blow yourself up and get me sued is most
definitely a figment of your lawyer's imagination:
Many years ago I used to drip a little gasoline thru a hose into
groundhog holes. If I waited the right amount of time before lighting (a
couple of minutes?) there would either be a very large thud or a long
whooshing flame streaming out of the hole. Obvioiusly this was not
something to do when the ground was really dry or if the "back door" to
the burrow was inside a building. Also, I was very careful how I lit
this, especially with respect to standing back and out of the direction
the hole pointed in. Probably I should have tried a hose taped to a car
tailpipe and then sealed to the entry tunnel, to flow thru and go out
the "back door". It also occurs to me now that there are flammable
things which wouldn't contaminate the water table in the same way.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Lincoln Ross <lincolnr@r...> wrote:
Sounds like a fun idea but I really don't want to set my jig
or stored wood on fire not to mention having no idea where this
critters back door is situated. The boatyard may also have their
opinions regarding underground explosions and flames shooting out of
their property.Their lawyers are not nice people........no sense of
humour :-(
But it does tickle the pyro in me nevertheless :-)
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan........
>Lincoln,
> Many years ago I used to drip a little gasoline thru a hose into
> groundhog holes.
Sounds like a fun idea but I really don't want to set my jig
or stored wood on fire not to mention having no idea where this
critters back door is situated. The boatyard may also have their
opinions regarding underground explosions and flames shooting out of
their property.Their lawyers are not nice people........no sense of
humour :-(
But it does tickle the pyro in me nevertheless :-)
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan........
Peter,
Is your intent to eliminate this creature from the boatyard, dine on it,
"scare" it away, "relocate" it, or help it develop a habitat under the
boatyard so that it can prosper and multiply allowing you to create a
"wilderness creature" theme park/boatyard where children rush in with
wads of cash in their hands just for a glimpse of the critters in the hole?
Before any "helpful" suggestions can be offered, it's critical to know
if this is a critter on either the endangered species list, or the "oh
it's sooo cute list"......
Rick
Is your intent to eliminate this creature from the boatyard, dine on it,
"scare" it away, "relocate" it, or help it develop a habitat under the
boatyard so that it can prosper and multiply allowing you to create a
"wilderness creature" theme park/boatyard where children rush in with
wads of cash in their hands just for a glimpse of the critters in the hole?
Before any "helpful" suggestions can be offered, it's critical to know
if this is a critter on either the endangered species list, or the "oh
it's sooo cute list"......
Rick