Re: Ringo was a boatbuilder/Windermere mini-update 4

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Chuck Leinweber" <chuck@d...> wrote:
I'll just bet Bruce has really big collection of cordless drills.
That would explain a lot ;-)

Now Chuck, I only have 4 good ones, and a half dozen old tired ones,
drilling all those thousands of access holes in steel to do a half
decent rustproofing is hard on them, and they don't last in our
service much over a year.

The table saw, belt sander, router, disc sander, paint sprayer and
jig saw seem to be standing up well, seeing relatively little use in
rustproofing.

Bruce Hector
Waiting for the new epoxy butt joint to dry on number 12 so he can
finally get started on #13, a John Welsford Light Dory. I can't get
Twisted Seagull away from Elaine, and I want to row too!

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "David Romasco" <dromasco@g...> wrote:
I have to say that having a multiplicity of drills makes
> life a lot more rational, in that more time can be devoted to
drinkin' and
> thinkin'


And that is just about where the troubles begin David...first ya
starts yer drinkin' then ya gets into yer thinkin' which only makes
you want to be drinkin'some mora,right on the floora. I don't think
I'm man enough to fill those shoes,yet. Afterall,look at what can
happen in extreme case.Do we really need another Bos'sun Bruce
Hector? :-D Who knows what trouble it can git a fella into,eh?



Sincerely,

Peter,"the one drill boat bum",Lenihan, from along the shores of
ya'll knows where by now do ya..............well....do ya?



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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "David Romasco" <dromasco@g...> wrote:
I have to say that having a multiplicity of drills makes
> life a lot more rational, in that more time can be devoted to
drinkin' and
> thinkin'


And that is just about where the troubles begin David...first ya
starts yer drinkin' then ya gets into yer thinkin' which only makes
you want to be drinkin'some mora,right on the floora. I don't think
I'm man enough to fill those shoes,yet. Afterall,look at what can
happen in extreme case.Do we really need another Bos'sun Bruce
Hector? :-D Who knows what trouble it can git a fella into,eh?



Sincerely,

Peter,"the one drill boat bum",Lenihan, from along the shores of
ya'll knows where by now do ya..............well....do ya?

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Chuck Leinweber" <chuck@d...> wrote:
get one with a smart charger that won't burn out the batteries, and
you will need an extra battery. In fact, you really should have two
of the things. I have five, but I only use three of them on a
regular basis. I have a half inch 18volt one for big jobs, but it is
too heavy for most stuff. I have a couple of 12 volt ones for that.
I use one to drill and one to screw.
>
> My recommendation would be the Makita 14volt with the NI-mh battery
>
> Chuck


Holy Jumpin' Lima beans Chuck,you have 5(five,cinq) cordless
drills!?!? That alone tells me they aren't all right :-) I only have
one and it does well as long as Hydro-Quebec keeps puttin' juice on
the line. Mind you, I have never been one to collect tools nor am I
known for never changing my mind so.......maybe Santa will get a
short list with a cordless on it.I'll keep the Makita in mind too!
One further observation; I am such a lazy bum that if I had more then
one drill all set up,I would feel strangely compelled to "work"
more,if you know what I mean, and this is a scary thought for a bum
comme moi :-)

Sincerely,

Peter Lenihan




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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Chuck Leinweber" <chuck@d...> wrote:
get one with a smart charger that won't burn out the batteries, and
you will need an extra battery. In fact, you really should have two
of the things. I have five, but I only use three of them on a
regular basis. I have a half inch 18volt one for big jobs, but it is
too heavy for most stuff. I have a couple of 12 volt ones for that.
I use one to drill and one to screw.
>
> My recommendation would be the Makita 14volt with the NI-mh battery
>
> Chuck


Holy Jumpin' Lima beans Chuck,you have 5(five,cinq) cordless
drills!?!? That alone tells me they aren't all right :-) I only have
one and it does well as long as Hydro-Quebec keeps puttin' juice on
the line. Mind you, I have never been one to collect tools nor am I
known for never changing my mind so.......maybe Santa will get a
short list with a cordless on it.I'll keep the Makita in mind too!
One further observation; I am such a lazy bum that if I had more then
one drill all set up,I would feel strangely compelled to "work"
more,if you know what I mean, and this is a scary thought for a bum
comme moi :-)

Sincerely,

Peter Lenihan

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Chuck Leinweber" <chuck@d...> wrote:
It's like a miracle. To give you even more control over the depth
you sink a screw to, these drills have two gear ratios, variable
speed, and (and this is the best part) an automatic brake.

Chuck,
Wow...things certainly have improved a lot! I now have to be a
very nice boy for the rest of the year if Sanity Claus is to lay one
of these "new and improved" drills under the tree :-)
The last time I ever actually saw a cordless drill,the thing had
about a two hour battery life,weighed a ton, and a replacement
battery(or spare) cost as much as buying a whole new cordless drill
kit. The friend who owned it,however, spent as much time swearing by
it as swearing at it. I was glad it was his drill and not mine!

Peter Lenihan

----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Lenihan
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 4:31 AM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Ringo was a boatbuilder/Windermere mini-update 4


--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "David Romasco" <dromasco@g...> wrote:
> Rick's right, mon ami; go check out the variety of rechargeable
tools. ]


Rick,David and Paul,
Tools are not the problem...I already have a nice powerful one
myself that is not battery powered.I prefer driving screws by
hand,especially into hard wood,since this gives me a real sense of
many things going on with the screw and wood.My drill will not
telegraph this information to me but just keep right on driving the
screw until something breaks.These were all No.10 X 2" Square Drive
wood screws.
But yes,powertools are sweet.The bottom alone of WINDERMERE
required that more then 1000 screws be driven(and removed) for
assembling the laminated bottom.The building jig too required close
to 800 screws to assemble.I used my drill for this stuff. I may be
nuts but I ain't crazy :-)
I blame it all on winter and my Pesky Crew for spoiling me to
the point where I do not get to use my hands often enough to toughen
them up.Now,if the skin on my hands was as tough as the skin on the
souls of my feet I'd still be screwing at this very moment without a
peep out of me.........

Thanks for the suggestions/recommendations though,good stuff to know
if I ever go cordless.

Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan


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>The fact that the sun was blazing down on a steamy 35 degree day didn't
>help matters much either.
>
>Snip
>
> The pain in the hands grew
>to the point where my knees actually felt good on the gravel! And
>just to keep things really challenging,the sweat was by now running
>rivers down my eye glasses.It felt like looking through an aquarium
>only there were no fish,justs lots of shiny screws.
>
>

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "David Romasco" <dromasco@g...> wrote:
> Rick's right, mon ami; go check out the variety of rechargeable
tools. ]


Rick,David and Paul,
Tools are not the problem...I already have a nice powerful one
myself that is not battery powered.I prefer driving screws by
hand,especially into hard wood,since this gives me a real sense of
many things going on with the screw and wood.My drill will not
telegraph this information to me but just keep right on driving the
screw until something breaks.These were all No.10 X 2" Square Drive
wood screws.
But yes,powertools are sweet.The bottom alone of WINDERMERE
required that more then 1000 screws be driven(and removed) for
assembling the laminated bottom.The building jig too required close
to 800 screws to assemble.I used my drill for this stuff. I may be
nuts but I ain't crazy :-)
I blame it all on winter and my Pesky Crew for spoiling me to
the point where I do not get to use my hands often enough to toughen
them up.Now,if the skin on my hands was as tough as the skin on the
souls of my feet I'd still be screwing at this very moment without a
peep out of me.........

Thanks for the suggestions/recommendations though,good stuff to know
if I ever go cordless.

Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan






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> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Lenihan" <ellengaest@b...>
> wrote:
>
> Peter, I was watching my computer all night, waiting for you to

> in with the name brand of the cheap epoxy you've managed to

> up. But then you got babbling about Ringo, or blisters, or

>
> Please, enlighten me again.

>>
> We'd rather see you and Pesky (OK, who needs you?) at the Kingston
> Messabout than no-one at all.
>
> Bo'sun Bruce Hector

> Rick's right, mon ami; go check out the variety of rechargeable

> --- "Peter Lenihan" <ellengaest@b...> wrote:
> > Bolgerados,
> > {big snip} ...
>
> Whew!
>
> (It is John Lennon that yelled 'I got blisters on my fingers!')
>
> Scarfing the *mahogany* chine logs, wow!
> I would have butt jointed wood salavaged from packing crates. ;)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Lenihan" <ellengaest@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 3:59 PM
Subject: [bolger] Ringo was a boatbuilder/Windermere mini-update 4


> Bolgerados,
> Well after all the excitement of the flip over,which in the end
> turned out to be somewhat anti-climatic, and the downing of some
> cold ones,serious work has continued on WINDERMERE.To begin;all the
> transverse plywood seams from the inner lamination were cleaned out
> with the help of a skilsaw whose blade was set at exactly 11/16" deep.
> This was deemed necessary as I had some doubts as to just how much
> epoxy seeped down into these seams while the second layer of the
> bottom was installed late last summer.After the first seam was
> done,it was rather apparent from the saw dust generated by the saw
> that it was just that,saw dust,with hardly a trace of good ol' epoxy
> dust.With my suspicions confirmed,work proceeded on all seams,even
> those dealing with the box keel up foreward.Once these had been all
> cleaned,I went around the bottom with some duct-tape to seal off the
> open ends of these seams prior to pouring in a slightly thickened
> epoxy mix.Otherwise,it would have been like pouring liquid gold into
> tiny little canals and watch it run clean out over the edge.
> After this prep work was done,my attention was then focused on
> glueing up my chine logs which a dear friend had kindly pre-shaped
> for me in his shop.Each chine log is comprised of three lengths of 1
> 1/4" square mahogany in sections adding up to 32 feet long,after the
> 12:1 scarfs.Once these had time to cure,I attempted a trail fit to
> get a hang of just how hard or easy these were going to be to
> install.Thanks to good stock and proper grain orrientation,these long
> sticks took relatively little convincing to assume the compound curve
> needed.Once both chine logs had been secured in place with clamps,it
> was time to go about eye-balling them for the elusive"fair curve".
> After having gone through a similar exercise with LESTAT and finding
> it rather easy to do,I expected the same for WINDERMERE.Boy was I
> wrong! At nearly twice the length of a Micro,the whole process of
> fairing the chine log to a sweet curve become almost maddening.The
> fact that the sun was blazing down on a steamy 35 degree day didn't
> help matters much either.The difficulty is that the longer the
> boat,the more subtle the changing curve is.Unlike the Micro,with her
> catboat proportions,there are no big easy curves for nearly 2/3 of
> the hull on WINDERMERE.And so close to an entire day was spent
> sweating in the sun on my hands and knees trying to get her just
> right.Call me fussy :-)
> Ultimately,things eventually did begin to look right and lines were
> then traced to help guide me later on while epoxying them in
> place.Before removing them for glueing however,I did pre-drill all
> the screw holes,on eight inch centers,which will hold the chine logs
> in place until the epoxy kicks.
> The next strep called for a light sanding of the the plywood along
> where the chine logs were to sit and a hollowing of the under side of
> each chine log.This is an excellent place for the use of the
> hollowing technique since a lot of pressure will be applied to hold
> the chine logs to their compound curve and it is vitally important
> that the epoxy remain in the joint and not get squeezed out.( see the
> files section,under building tips,for the famous hollowing technique)
> Finally,it was time to install the chine logs.With all my gear
> needed for the job set out before me and stuff laid out along the
> length of the boat to keep from waisting too much time running around
> in a panic the first batch of epoxy(600mls) was prepared.Beginning at
> the stem,I laid down a nice thick bead of epoxy which had been
> thickened to the peanut butter stage.After about 8 feet of epoxy had
> been laid down,I went back to the stem and,using my first screw as a
> guide,set the end of the chine log in its place.
> Little did I to know that the fun was just about to begin.Working
> quickly but surely I began alternating between spreading out more
> epoxy,shifting clamps along as the work progressed and driving the
> screws.Working on my knees in gravel,with the sweat just pouring off
> my forehead it was about at screw number 12 that I began to get
> sore.Not just from my knees but my hands.Since there was epoxy
> everywhere,I had plastic gloves on.These are great for keeping epoxy
> off the skin but a real pain to hold a screw driver.By screw 20,my
> hands felt like they were on fire and I still had another 28 screws
> to go before finishing one side! With the epoxy threatening to kick
> sooner then later in the oven-of-a-boat-yard, I felt like a devil
> being driven deeper into the pits of hell.The pain in the hands grew
> to the point where my knees actually felt good on the gravel! And
> just to keep things really challenging,the sweat was by now running
> rivers down my eye glasses.It felt like looking through an aquarium
> only there were no fish,justs lots of shiny screws.
> Racing against time,the first side was finally done.And this is
> where I made another mistake.I took a break to check out my
> hands.Holy Jesus H. Christ! There was blood everywhere! I had just
> given myself 9 wonderful blisters.Needless to say, I felt very
> excited to begin installing the other chine log..........
> But install it I must and install it I did.The only difference was
> that throughout the whole process I just couldn't get the damned
> ending to a Beatle song out of my head.It's the very end of Helter
> Skelter were Ringo yells out," I've got blisters on my fingers!"
> Yeah,sure you do Ringo and I've got bleedin' tomatoes for blisters :-)
>
> And so the worse of it is now over.This Saturday,the bottom goes back
> upside down on her jig and the fillet pieces are installed,the bottom
> given another coat of glass and epoxy,some barrier coat,some
> primer,some paint and she is done!One more flip upright and the
> bulkheads(already made)will be installed.....pant,pant,pant, I can't
> wait!
>
> Sincerely,
> Peter Lenihan,whose hands should be ready for the "back flip" this
> Saturday,come hell or high water from along the shores of the
> St.Lawrence...............
>
>
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> Bolgerados,
> {big snip} ...