Re: [bolger] Anhinga, was Re: Economy seagoing cruiser
> --- "Peter Lenihan" <ellengaest@b...> wrote:> >That's just what Philip Bolger said to me! when I obtained those plans from him about 1985. The
> With another think you might find me
> building a Birdwatcher first.
tremendous cabin room, big cockpit and Square Boat cachet are all qualities that might make Anhinga
best for someone.
I never had room to build and store a 24 foot boat. If building Anhinga now, I'd have a full length
slot top on the cabin.
Mark
>
>
--- "Peter Lenihan" <ellengaest@b...> wrote:> >
cockpit isn't necessarily an
'error'.
The person in the doodle would
be about 5'4" tall. The boat
would sail at a pretty good angle
of heel, so you would be looking
over the 'lowered' lee rail while
sailing.
The tiller could be handled with
lines from a seated position, or
you could rig a higher seat, *or*
simply stand up while sailing.
I just read the 2001 threads about
Anhinga, and the essence was that
there was a write up in _Wooden Boat_
of one that had been build but it had
stability problems. But, that one wasn't
'per plans' so it was an open question
whether a real Anhinga would be good or not.
I might be inclined to inquire with
PCB to add some ballast, to be more safe.
Maybe the water ballast could be extended
forward some. Or, like Birdwatcher, one
could thicken up the bottom plywood for
more weight down low.
With another think you might find me
building a Birdwatcher first.
>>http://www.hallman.org/bolger/anhinga/person.gifThinking about it more, that
> doodled crew.......
> perhaps the scale is
> a wee bit off.Bolger really
> isn't known for errors of that
> magnitude,
cockpit isn't necessarily an
'error'.
The person in the doodle would
be about 5'4" tall. The boat
would sail at a pretty good angle
of heel, so you would be looking
over the 'lowered' lee rail while
sailing.
The tiller could be handled with
lines from a seated position, or
you could rig a higher seat, *or*
simply stand up while sailing.
I just read the 2001 threads about
Anhinga, and the essence was that
there was a write up in _Wooden Boat_
of one that had been build but it had
stability problems. But, that one wasn't
'per plans' so it was an open question
whether a real Anhinga would be good or not.
I might be inclined to inquire with
PCB to add some ballast, to be more safe.
Maybe the water ballast could be extended
forward some. Or, like Birdwatcher, one
could thicken up the bottom plywood for
more weight down low.
With another think you might find me
building a Birdwatcher first.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hallman" <brucehallman@y...>
wrote:
Checked out your scan and doodled crew.......perhaps the scale is
a wee bit off.Bolger really isn't known for errors of that
magnitude,certainly not at the date of the ANHINGA design.
Just a thought......:-)
Peter Lenihan
wrote:
>Bruce,
> I am confused though, sitting
> on the benches in the cockpit,
> it seems that you could only
> barely 'see out', and a small
> adult and child would not be able
> to see at all. Also, the location
> of the tiller seems such that
> your arm could not reach it
> unless you were standing up all
> the time.??
>
> see:
>
>http://www.hallman.org/bolger/anhinga/person.gif
Checked out your scan and doodled crew.......perhaps the scale is
a wee bit off.Bolger really isn't known for errors of that
magnitude,certainly not at the date of the ANHINGA design.
Just a thought......:-)
Peter Lenihan
--- "David Romasco" <dromasco@g...> wrote:
about Anhinga starting at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/message/15387
I haven't read it yet, but will soon.
> check the archives,There was a long thread in 2001
about Anhinga starting at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bolger/message/15387
I haven't read it yet, but will soon.
I hate publicly demonstrating my lazy refusal to check the archives, but
weren't there some second thoughts by PCB regarding this design (I believe
something about the narrow stern and flat run aft)?
David Romasco
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From: Bruce Hallman [mailto:brucehallman@...]
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 12:41 PM
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Subject: [bolger] Anhinga, was Re: Economy seagoing cruiser
Anhinga, about 16 sheets of 1/4" plywood
40 2x4"'s, six gallons epoxy, could be
had for $2,000 I bet. Would be a quick
build too...
'Hawsehole', a new word for me.
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weren't there some second thoughts by PCB regarding this design (I believe
something about the narrow stern and flat run aft)?
David Romasco
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Subject: [bolger] Anhinga, was Re: Economy seagoing cruiser
> --- "Mark A." <marka@h...> wrote:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger3/files/Anhinga/
Anhinga, about 16 sheets of 1/4" plywood
40 2x4"'s, six gallons epoxy, could be
had for $2,000 I bet. Would be a quick
build too...
'Hawsehole', a new word for me.
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> --- "Mark A." <marka@h...> wrote:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger3/files/Anhinga/
Anhinga, about 16 sheets of 1/4" plywood
40 2x4"'s, six gallons epoxy, could be
had for $2,000 I bet. Would be a quick
build too...
'Hawsehole', a new word for me.
--- "Mark A." <marka@h...> wrote:
new [to me] Bolger design.
Mark, good job with the scan,
line drawings are soooo much
easier to read when saved as
"GIF's" in black and white.
The more common "jpg's" are
*no good* for line drawings.
I am confused though, sitting
on the benches in the cockpit,
it seems that you could only
barely 'see out', and a small
adult and child would not be able
to see at all. Also, the location
of the tiller seems such that
your arm could not reach it
unless you were standing up all
the time.??
see:
http://www.hallman.org/bolger/anhinga/person.gif
> scansI love it when I come across a
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger3/files/Anhinga/
new [to me] Bolger design.
Mark, good job with the scan,
line drawings are soooo much
easier to read when saved as
"GIF's" in black and white.
The more common "jpg's" are
*no good* for line drawings.
I am confused though, sitting
on the benches in the cockpit,
it seems that you could only
barely 'see out', and a small
adult and child would not be able
to see at all. Also, the location
of the tiller seems such that
your arm could not reach it
unless you were standing up all
the time.??
see:
http://www.hallman.org/bolger/anhinga/person.gif
Pete,
Sorry. My original scans were huge. In reducing them to 1/8th size to have a handy screenful,
something got lost in translation.
There are now more legible versions in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger3/files/Anhinga/
Same disclaimer applies.
Mark
Sorry. My original scans were huge. In reducing them to 1/8th size to have a handy screenful,
something got lost in translation.
There are now more legible versions in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger3/files/Anhinga/
Same disclaimer applies.
Mark
> What boat am I thinking of?Anit-Spray?
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Lepak" <gnjlepak@o...> wrote:
very well at all.
> See Anhinga drawings in Bolger 2 files.Anyone got a little higher quality scan of these? I can't read them
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/Anhinga/
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "pvanderwaart" <pvanderw@o...>
> To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 9:23 AM
> Subject: [bolger] Re: Economy seagoing cruiser
>
>
> > Did not this concept give rise to the Anhinga Sharpie?
> >
very well at all.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Harry James <welshman@p...> wrote:
AHA is right! That is one handsome looking boat and just one of
many I would love to own, if I were rich and had 9 lives like a cat.
I sometimes wonder where John MacDaniels(sp) is with his project. If
I remember correctly,they were the ones who actualy commissioned
this design from Bolger. It is just full of really crafty
ideas/solutions all set to make this a first class live-a-board for
John and family.Perhaps he'll surprise us all with some progress
photos :-)
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,not visually impaired but a real sucker for eye-candy
in any form,as long as it floats, from along the shores of the
St.Lawrence........
> AHA, a perusal of the files and I find Antspray in Bolger 2 thatis the
> one I was thinking of.Harry,
AHA is right! That is one handsome looking boat and just one of
many I would love to own, if I were rich and had 9 lives like a cat.
I sometimes wonder where John MacDaniels(sp) is with his project. If
I remember correctly,they were the ones who actualy commissioned
this design from Bolger. It is just full of really crafty
ideas/solutions all set to make this a first class live-a-board for
John and family.Perhaps he'll surprise us all with some progress
photos :-)
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,not visually impaired but a real sucker for eye-candy
in any form,as long as it floats, from along the shores of the
St.Lawrence........
AHA, a perusal of the files and I find Antspray in Bolger 2 that is the
one I was thinking of. Antispray-Anhinga They both begin with A and have
an N in them. Easy enought to confuse, ones a sailing canoe type the
other a large Ocean going boat. What the heck they both have sails.
HJ
Harry James wrote:
one I was thinking of. Antispray-Anhinga They both begin with A and have
an N in them. Easy enought to confuse, ones a sailing canoe type the
other a large Ocean going boat. What the heck they both have sails.
HJ
Harry James wrote:
>Solution 48 rings some kind of bell. The boat I am thinking of is was
>mentioned on the group several times a couple of years ago and as I
>remember, obviously not a good source, it was being built in steel, and
>I thought in FLA. My memory is not all that reliable , because I thought
>that was Anhinga.
>
>HJ
>
>Peter Lenihan wrote:
>
>
>
>>--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Harry James <welshman@p...> wrote:
>>What boat am I thinking of?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>HJ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Lions Paw?,Solution 48?
>>
>>P.L
>>
>>
>>
Solution 48 rings some kind of bell. The boat I am thinking of is was
mentioned on the group several times a couple of years ago and as I
remember, obviously not a good source, it was being built in steel, and
I thought in FLA. My memory is not all that reliable , because I thought
that was Anhinga.
HJ
Peter Lenihan wrote:
mentioned on the group several times a couple of years ago and as I
remember, obviously not a good source, it was being built in steel, and
I thought in FLA. My memory is not all that reliable , because I thought
that was Anhinga.
HJ
Peter Lenihan wrote:
>--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Harry James <welshman@p...> wrote:
> What boat am I thinking of?
>
>
>>HJ
>>
>>
>>
>
>Lions Paw?,Solution 48?
>
>P.L
>
>
>
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Harry James <welshman@p...> wrote:
What boat am I thinking of?
>
> HJ
>
Lions Paw?,Solution 48?
P.L
Why did I think that Anhinga was a 40 ft or so boat and some body was
building a steel one, probably in FLA. What boat am I thinking of?
HJ
bigeddytom wrote:
building a steel one, probably in FLA. What boat am I thinking of?
HJ
bigeddytom wrote:
>--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Mark A." <marka@h...> wrote:
>
>
>>I think TD said there were finished drawings for the larger one.
>>Mark
>>
>>Gary Lepak wrote:
>>
>>
>>>See Anhinga drawings in Bolger 2 files.
>>>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/Anhinga/
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "pvanderwaart" <pvanderw@o...>
>>>To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
>>>Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 9:23 AM
>>>Subject: [bolger] Re: Economy seagoing cruiser
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Did not this concept give rise to the Anhinga Sharpie?
>>>>
>>>>
>Hello Peter, Bruce and Gary, I found the Anhinga version in the
>Bolger info. Thanks for the info. Tom on Sandpiper.
>
>
>
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Mark A." <marka@h...> wrote:
Bolger info. Thanks for the info. Tom on Sandpiper.
> I think TD said there were finished drawings for the larger one.Hello Peter, Bruce and Gary, I found the Anhinga version in the
> Mark
>
> Gary Lepak wrote:
> >
> > See Anhinga drawings in Bolger 2 files.
> >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/Anhinga/
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "pvanderwaart" <pvanderw@o...>
> > To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 9:23 AM
> > Subject: [bolger] Re: Economy seagoing cruiser
> >
> > > Did not this concept give rise to the Anhinga Sharpie?
Bolger info. Thanks for the info. Tom on Sandpiper.
I think TD said there were finished drawings for the larger one.
Mark
Gary Lepak wrote:
Mark
Gary Lepak wrote:
>
> See Anhinga drawings in Bolger 2 files.
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/Anhinga/
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "pvanderwaart" <pvanderw@...>
> To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 9:23 AM
> Subject: [bolger] Re: Economy seagoing cruiser
>
> > Did not this concept give rise to the Anhinga Sharpie?
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "pvanderwaart" <pvanderw@o...> wrote:
find information on it? Tom on Sandpiper
> Did not this concept give rise to the Anhinga Sharpie?Hey Peter, I am not familiar with the Anhinga Sharpie. Where can I
>
> Peter
find information on it? Tom on Sandpiper
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, TOMCBRADY@C... wrote:
single sheet "concept" drawing in
the book. PCB might need to
'weigh in' on how much lead ballast
to use. 500 lbs?
I want one!
Plus I want an Eeek!
=======
Google:
Ringo blisters fingers: 286 sites
Lennon blisters fingers: 383 sites
> Economy Seagoing Cruiser.I bet one could be built from the
single sheet "concept" drawing in
the book. PCB might need to
'weigh in' on how much lead ballast
to use. 500 lbs?
I want one!
Plus I want an Eeek!
=======
Google:
Ringo blisters fingers: 286 sites
Lennon blisters fingers: 383 sites
See Anhinga drawings in Bolger 2 files.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/Anhinga/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger2/files/Anhinga/
----- Original Message -----
From: "pvanderwaart" <pvanderw@...>
To: <bolger@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 9:23 AM
Subject: [bolger] Re: Economy seagoing cruiser
> Did not this concept give rise to the Anhinga Sharpie?
>
Did not this concept give rise to the Anhinga Sharpie?
Peter
Peter
>Hello,Eeek! turned into the Sailing Peero. See the Cheap Pages.
> In Bolger's book "30-ODD BOATS" Bolger shows a sketch of a boat titled
>Economy Seagoing Cruiser. He built a 1/3 scale boat, named EEK, to test the
>concept which was double ended but with a straight run aft of mid-ship with
>rocker forward only. Were plans ever available for the boat and was this boat
>ever built. For you old Bolger fans, it was on page 2 of the book.
>Thanks. Tom
>on Sandpiper.
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Hello,
In Bolger's book "30-ODD BOATS" Bolger shows a sketch of a boat titled
Economy Seagoing Cruiser. He built a 1/3 scale boat, named EEK, to test the
concept which was double ended but with a straight run aft of mid-ship with
rocker forward only. Were plans ever available for the boat and was this boat
ever built. For you old Bolger fans, it was on page 2 of the book. Thanks. Tom
on Sandpiper.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
In Bolger's book "30-ODD BOATS" Bolger shows a sketch of a boat titled
Economy Seagoing Cruiser. He built a 1/3 scale boat, named EEK, to test the
concept which was double ended but with a straight run aft of mid-ship with
rocker forward only. Were plans ever available for the boat and was this boat
ever built. For you old Bolger fans, it was on page 2 of the book. Thanks. Tom
on Sandpiper.
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