Re: [bolger] Re: bolger in Egypt

In a message dated 7/11/2003 3:29:24 PM E. Australia Standard Time,
oink@...writes:

> What an interesting time you had. Gosh, a Bolger book of plans and
> such cheap prices, you must be a man of steel yourself to resist!
> Were they to an acceptable standard of finish?
> Were they fair but workboat like?
> How much does it cost to fly to Egypt with Boats with an open Mind
> as freight?
> DonB
>

Having lived in a few places, including Egypt, where labor is cheap and there
is a boatbuilding tradition, I've often been tempted to having a boat built.
It seems to me, though, that it is not just a matter of the standard of
finish. I suspect that workboats are meant to work hard enough to repay their cost
over a few years. If they fall apart after that, the owner is happy to have a
new one built. This would not suit the average pleasure-boat owner.

Howard


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What an interesting time you had. Gosh, a Bolger book of plans and
such cheap prices, you must be a man of steel yourself to resist!
Were they to an acceptable standard of finish?
Were they fair but workboat like?
How much does it cost to fly to Egypt with Boats with an open Mind
as freight?
DonB
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "jrtaylorinflag"
<jrtaylorinflag@y...> wrote:

> Back in 1994-1996 I was working in Egypt I had faithfully taken my
> copy of BOATS WITH AN OPEN MIND with me. Mind you, not becouse I

had

> any plans of building a boat over there but rather I have always
> carried PCB's books with me since childhood. ( By the way many of

his

> boats ARE ugly.)
> As it turned out Egypt was a boatbuilding mecca; building both
> steel and traditional, sawn frame carvel planked fishing boats and
> motor yachts, ranging from 40-100ft.
> Of course I couldn't resist parading the book around to the many
> boats yards to inquire about quotes for construction of some of

the

> boats in the book.
> As one might expect the Egyptian boatbuilders were rather taken by
> some of the designs and others were universally denounced.

Ataraxia,

> Barn Owl, and Offshore leeboarder were roundly exualted as "good
> boats!" and ones they would be willing to build. When they looked

at

> the AS29 and the LOOSE MOOSE they just shook their heads.
> As it worked out I could have had Ataraxia built either in wood

or

> steel for around 7,000 dollars. Understand that the Eygptian
> boatbuilder build steel boats to the same lines they would build

the

> wooden boats. Fabricating the same complex curves they would

render

> in wood, in steel framing and plating.
> One boat yard in Port Siade that built both steel and wooden boats
> quoted me one price to have Ataraxia built in either wood or steel

my

> choice. the only problem I had with their work was they would have
> built the boat to rather heavy scantlings.
> The boat that I really wanted to inquire about was AS29 but

apparently

> their pride in their craft would not allow them to stoop to

building

> such thing.

Back in 1994-1996 I was working in Egypt I had faithfully taken my
copy of BOATS WITH AN OPEN MIND with me. Mind you, not becouse I had
any plans of building a boat over there but rather I have always
carried PCB's books with me since childhood. ( By the way many of his
boats ARE ugly.)
As it turned out Egypt was a boatbuilding mecca; building both
steel and traditional, sawn frame carvel planked fishing boats and
motor yachts, ranging from 40-100ft.
Of course I couldn't resist parading the book around to the many
boats yards to inquire about quotes for construction of some of the
boats in the book.
As one might expect the Egyptian boatbuilders were rather taken by
some of the designs and others were universally denounced. Ataraxia,
Barn Owl, and Offshore leeboarder were roundly exualted as "good
boats!" and ones they would be willing to build. When they looked at
the AS29 and the LOOSE MOOSE they just shook their heads.
As it worked out I could have had Ataraxia built either in wood or
steel for around 7,000 dollars. Understand that the Eygptian
boatbuilder build steel boats to the same lines they would build the
wooden boats. Fabricating the same complex curves they would render
in wood, in steel framing and plating.
One boat yard in Port Siade that built both steel and wooden boats
quoted me one price to have Ataraxia built in either wood or steel my
choice. the only problem I had with their work was they would have
built the boat to rather heavy scantlings.
The boat that I really wanted to inquire about was AS29 but apparently
their pride in their craft would not allow them to stoop to building
such thing.