Re: [bolger] Re: Finishing boat projects (was sue's single handed schooner)

The double works for me, if I add a little more.

I figure out my my best guess, I double it, I say that is what it will
take for public consumption. I don't really believe it myself though,
but I am the only one disappointed when the finishing goes on and on and on.

HJ

proaconstrictor wrote:

>Over the years, I find it is pretty easy for me to accurately
>estimate the time a project will take, if I just double my best
>guess. I'm not making a smart comment here, that is pretty accurate
>for me. Though, I never believe it will take that long going in, so
>the rule while reliable, is never believed. I've tried to keep a
>time sheet, but I can't stick to it
>
>
>
Over the years, I find it is pretty easy for me to accurately
estimate the time a project will take, if I just double my best
guess. I'm not making a smart comment here, that is pretty accurate
for me. Though, I never believe it will take that long going in, so
the rule while reliable, is never believed. I've tried to keep a
time sheet, but I can't stick to it
I should have said "...I'm a hopelessly compulsive scheduler..." :-)

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Frank San Miguel" <sanmi@y...> wrote:
> I'm a professional scheduler and I *know* better than to schedule any
> of my boat projects :-)
>
I'm a professional scheduler and I *know* better than to schedule any
of my boat projects :-)

I do however, try to record my effort so that I can better estimate
the next project. I never estimate when I'm going to finish - only
how many hours it will take me.

Frank San Miguel
Wilmington, DE


--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "eheins" <eheins@c...> wrote:
>
> Guys I've been building on this Chebacco since 1998 at least. My
plan was
> to launch Monday, but the closer I get the more I find to do. I'm
not sure
> where boatbuilding is concerned that any schedule is anything more
than a
> wish list. Certainly as long as most of us are tasked with making
a living.
>
> Still, Boudicea's sails are in, hull's mostly painted, and the
light at the
> end of the tunnel seems looming nearer. Maybe by the end of August
now.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Susan Davis" <futabachan@y...> wrote:

"Course, the plan was to have had the boat in the water on July 1"

I know about that one, my plan was to launch my Micro Riff-Raff by
summer, summer 2001, that is! Keep at it, do a little every day, and
you'll do fine. I'd advise against going off on creative tangents
building a half dozen new boats and such, it doesn't seem to be
helping me finish Riff-Raff.

"my partner and I tend to wrap ourselves around each other naturally
when we sleep"

Gee, does that mean you'll only be overnighting in the spring and
fall (the water's a tad too hard up here for winter sailing) as it
would seem to be too dimutive for a central air instalation. E and I
usually start that way, rapidly slip to stern to stern raft up, and
then drift away due to excxessive BTU buildup between our respective
hulls with too much tumblehome in the aft ends. LOL

ruce Hector
http://www.brucesboats.com
Guys I've been building on this Chebacco since 1998 at least. My plan was
to launch Monday, but the closer I get the more I find to do. I'm not sure
where boatbuilding is concerned that any schedule is anything more than a
wish list. Certainly as long as most of us are tasked with making a living.

Still, Boudicea's sails are in, hull's mostly painted, and the light at the
end of the tunnel seems looming nearer. Maybe by the end of August now.
> Great progress Sue, already you can see that sweet sheer line.
> Aren't instant boats gtreat. What parts did you get? Masts? Rudder?
> etc?

I got all the bulkheads (and the temporary frame), the stem and
stern, the topsides, a partly faired daggerboard sans lead, a
faired rudder, the rudder post, the rudder cartridge, all of the
spars, the mast steps and mast donuts, some homemade wooden cleats,
and an assortment of oddments. Most of what's in the pictures that
are on bolger3 came from Jim; I've since added the chine logs and
double bottom, but those pictures haven't come back yet.

> Will it be ready for the Messabout?

That's the plan. 'Course, the plan was to have had the boat in
the water on July 1, when my previous job ran out, and I didn't
meet that, either. At the moment, I have an intact hull; the
next building session will involve installing the keel and rudder
trunks and the mast steps, and filleting gaps and filling in
screw holes with epoxy putty.

> In BWAOM Phil mentions making a boom tent for fore and aft cockpits
> for sleeping, isn't each one long enough for a 6 foot plusser to
> curl up in?

The aft one, definitely not -- there isn't even room there for
two to sit. Only the forward cockpit is suitable for sleeping.
It's also only 15" from the bilge to the sheer, so anyone sleeping
up forward needs to do so in the way of the opening, so there's
about a twin bed's worth of sleeping area on board. Fortunately,
my partner and I tend to wrap ourselves around each other naturally
when we sleep; for a pair of sprawlers, two boats would be better.

--
Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
Great progress Sue, already you can see that sweet sheer line. Aren't
instant boats gtreat. What parts did you get? Masts? Rudder? etc?
Will it be ready for the Messabout?

In BWAOM Phil mentions making a boom tent for fore and aft cockpits
for sleeping, isn't each one long enough for a 6 foot plusser to curl
up in?

Bruce Hector
> I would not have done so, but I know the boat well, having
> sailed in her with Tony Groves back in the early 90s,
> shortly after she was built.

Where did you sit? I'm trying to figure out where to put guests
(specifically, my partner) when I sail her. There isn't enough
room in the cockpit, it looks like, and the main hold looks
like it would be a little awkward due to the high coaming around
it, and that's awfully close to the center line.

Also, PCB mentioned that Tony had rigged up an A-frame to lift
the daggerboard, but that no pictures were available. If I
asked nicely, would you mind taking some?

-- Sue --
(any other advice about how to set up an H&HS would be welcome, too)

--
Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
I am the new caretaker of the his 'n' hers schooner on ebay.
I bought her today.

I would not have done so, but I know the boat well, having
sailed in her with Tony Groves back in the early 90s,
shortly after she was built.

And I can tell you she is a lot more than a big plywood
skiff. Tony built her to the most exacting standards. He
is an artist, and a professional wood-worker, and he did an
artist's job. The boat is exquisite in every way. The
finest Eastern yards 100 years ago, and now, couldn't have
executed that boat any better.

However, if I don't get to play with her enough, she may go
back up for sale, and I can assure you I'll probably break
even. A few good pictures is all it will take. Tony's work
on that boat was, and remains, spectacular.

Charles Andrews
SoCal