Re: ANY ONE ELSE, TROUBLE WITH COMMON SENSE BOATS????????

I am new to this board and this is my first post. I came here
because I am interested in building a power sharpie. I ordered CSB
catalog and my credit card was charged. I waited about two weeks
then emailed CSB. After 3 or 4 emails I got a short reply that the
catalog was in the mail. It never arrived. I have sent several more
emails and attemted to call to no avail.
Duane, I have a set of frames/bulkheads cut out and
assembled,for marine fir ply, for the long micro, from
a project that went awry--if you, or anyone else,
should want them, they are yours for the taking,
sitting in my garage in Sussex Co., Delaware (near
Ocean City, Md., if that helps). Sam
--- DUANE HALL <keywestdale@...> wrote:
> HELLO, I am sorry to post this here, as It may sound
> like second hand
> information to some.....but I am simply wondering if
> any one has had
> trouble with common sense boats ?????.........I
> ordered a set of long
> micro plans, and my credit card was charged for the
> plans on july
> 11....that makes a month come monday as the jimmy
> buffett songs
> says...........at that time, they said they were in
> between ports,(in
> their sailboat), and would mail them, at the first
> post office they
> got too........have not heard from them since, have
> not answered
> emails, etc..........for a goof, I sent them another
> email from one
> of my other email accounts, using a different name,
> to see if they
> would answer a question, about a possible
> order.....they had no
> problems answering this email, and told me how to
> place the order,
> etc.........?????...........I asked a person, whom
> you probably all
> know , which has their site link on his
> website.....he had said, he
> had heard a few things, to the tune of flaky deals,
> if not downright
> possible bad dealings, etc...end quote, and was
> mulling the idea, of
> taking their link of his sight, etc.........I hate
> to bad mouth
> anyone, but its starting to seem like something is
> up here, and trust
> me, I would like to think I am wrong.........please
> someone let me
> know, if there are others who have maybe be burned
> here.............after a month, its not about the
> money, its about a
> month lost without prints setting on my shop desk,
> and the
> possibility, they are doing this to
> others.........even if my plans
> are going to show up......there still is no excuse
> for at least the
> non contact, etc........at this stage, I would tell
> people to be
> leery of them, at least until I am proven wrong, or
> hear it from
> others, etc.............and if common sense boats
> reads this...you
> are more than welcome to contact
> me !!!!!!! and I apologize if you happen to be in
> the middle of a
> month long atlantic crossing or something, but if
> your answered an
> email from my other address, then you could answer
> one from my first
> one !!!!!.........duane....................thanks
> for everyones
> time, I am not crying here, just feel obligated to
> maybe save some
> one else, the headache of waitng for a month, if not
>
> worse......................
>
>


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thanks bruce>>>>>>>>> chuck merrill sent them an email on my behalf<
hinting that he was going to kick their link off his sight>>>>>>they emailed him<
and said sorry < their boat was broke down< etc>>>>>>said they mailed them a few
days ago>>>>>>>> i AM STILL NOT BETTING ON IT THOUGH.......I AM TRYING NOT
to get a sour taste in my mouth towards the long micro !!!.........cant wait
to start building...........duane........will let the sight know if and when i
recieve them..........duane.......


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HEY DAVID, THANKS FOR THE REPLY......CHUCK MERRILL, SENT THEM AN EMAIL,
HINTING TO KICK THEM OFF HIS SIGHT(link)< they have since emailed him< and said
they have shipped them a week ago<<<<< they have not bothered to email however<
so i will hopefully see them < but not betting on it yet>>>>>>>>>duane


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I particularly enjoy the part of the URL for the page indicating CSD is
‘temporarily indisposed’; it includes “lightsoutuser”, which is a
technical term indicating that it might be while before we see them again, I
think….



David Romasco



-----Original Message-----
From: steve [mailto:delnickse@...]
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 12:33 PM
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bolger] Re: Common Sense Boats service, or lack thereof.



After reading yet another stream of complaints and thoughts about CSD
I decided to go to their website to see what all the fuss is
about...and found the website is no longer there...

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hector" <bruce_hector@h...>
wrote:
> Yep, me too. Had a horrible 4 month experience with my last order.
> Swore I'd never buy from them again.
>
> Bruce Hector
> The colder, norther, Bruce H.






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After reading yet another stream of complaints and thoughts about CSD
I decided to go to their website to see what all the fuss is
about...and found the website is no longer there...

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hector" <bruce_hector@h...>
wrote:
> Yep, me too. Had a horrible 4 month experience with my last order.
> Swore I'd never buy from them again.
>
> Bruce Hector
> The colder, norther, Bruce H.
Yep, me too. Had a horrible 4 month experience with my last order.
Swore I'd never buy from them again.

Bruce Hector
The colder, norther, Bruce H.
THANKS BRUCE, AND AGAIN, NOT TRYING TO BASH ANYONE HERE,,,,,JUST BEEN TRYING
FOR A MONTH NOW TO GET MICRO PLANS THATS ALL !!!........SENDING OFF MONDAY TO
BOLGER AND FRIENDS FOR SOME INFO..........THANKS TO ALL........DUANE


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FWIW, lots of people go on vacation in
the summer, and check their email
remotely. Perhaps their website
shopping cart software allows them
or even forces them to proptly
charge the credit card.

And to not jump on the bash
Common Sense bandwagon, PF&F
have also been known to be
away from home 'gone sailing'
for weeks at a time.

All in all, I say buying plans
from PB&F is worth the extra $
because you get the opportunity
to ask them questions in the
deal.

Wow, another Micro builder!

Vote in the poll, we need
to beat out the Chebacco crowd.
At last check it is tied with 23 votes each!

http://tinyurl.com/jklm
There are at least several back messages here on similar themes. Duane, if you don't get
the plans in a day or two more, maybe it's best to contact your credit card company and
cancel the order.

You can also have the LM set with reliable follow up from PB&F

M

DUANE HALL wrote:
.....but I am simply wondering if any one has had
> trouble with common sense boats ?????.........i
I personally have not done any deals since Bernie sold it, so I am of not much help - when I dealt with Bernie he was above board, easy to work with and customer satisfaction was his goal.

I buy from Dynamite for any Bolger stuff - I have not asked if he could get something he doesn't normally stock - hmmmmm, that might be worth investigating.

Sorry, I digress - send CSB a message, ask them why they answered your friends email on how to buy, but not yours on where your plans were - tell him your friend BCC'd you and that is how you know when he sent his email and when he got the reply. I would even go as far to include a CC to the state Attorney General in whichever state they are in now as well as the BBB online.

My two cents worth...

Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: DUANE HALL
To:bolger@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 1:52 AM
Subject: [bolger] ANY ONE ELSE, TROUBLE WITH COMMON SENSE BOATS????????


HELLO, I am sorry to post this here, as It may sound like second hand
information to some.....but I am simply wondering if any one has had
trouble with common sense boats ?????.........I ordered a set of long
micro plans, and my credit card was charged for the plans on july
11....that makes a month come monday as the jimmy buffett songs
says...........at that time, they said they were in between ports,(in
their sailboat), and would mail them, at the first post office they
got too........have not heard from them since, have not answered
emails, etc..........for a goof, I sent them another email from one
of my other email accounts, using a different name, to see if they
would answer a question, about a possible order.....they had no
problems answering this email, and told me how to place the order,
etc.........?????...........I asked a person, whom you probably all
know , which has their site link on his website.....he had said, he
had heard a few things, to the tune of flaky deals, if not downright
possible bad dealings, etc...end quote, and was mulling the idea, of
taking their link of his sight, etc.........I hate to bad mouth
anyone, but its starting to seem like something is up here, and trust
me, I would like to think I am wrong.........please someone let me
know, if there are others who have maybe be burned
here.............after a month, its not about the money, its about a
month lost without prints setting on my shop desk, and the
possibility, they are doing this to others.........even if my plans
are going to show up......there still is no excuse for at least the
non contact, etc........at this stage, I would tell people to be
leery of them, at least until I am proven wrong, or hear it from
others, etc.............and if common sense boats reads this...you
are more than welcome to contact
me !!!!!!! and I apologize if you happen to be in the middle of a
month long atlantic crossing or something, but if your answered an
email from my other address, then you could answer one from my first
one !!!!!.........duane....................thanks for everyones
time, I am not crying here, just feel obligated to maybe save some
one else, the headache of waitng for a month, if not
worse......................


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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
HELLO, I am sorry to post this here, as It may sound like second hand
information to some.....but I am simply wondering if any one has had
trouble with common sense boats ?????.........I ordered a set of long
micro plans, and my credit card was charged for the plans on july
11....that makes a month come monday as the jimmy buffett songs
says...........at that time, they said they were in between ports,(in
their sailboat), and would mail them, at the first post office they
got too........have not heard from them since, have not answered
emails, etc..........for a goof, I sent them another email from one
of my other email accounts, using a different name, to see if they
would answer a question, about a possible order.....they had no
problems answering this email, and told me how to place the order,
etc.........?????...........I asked a person, whom you probably all
know , which has their site link on his website.....he had said, he
had heard a few things, to the tune of flaky deals, if not downright
possible bad dealings, etc...end quote, and was mulling the idea, of
taking their link of his sight, etc.........I hate to bad mouth
anyone, but its starting to seem like something is up here, and trust
me, I would like to think I am wrong.........please someone let me
know, if there are others who have maybe be burned
here.............after a month, its not about the money, its about a
month lost without prints setting on my shop desk, and the
possibility, they are doing this to others.........even if my plans
are going to show up......there still is no excuse for at least the
non contact, etc........at this stage, I would tell people to be
leery of them, at least until I am proven wrong, or hear it from
others, etc.............and if common sense boats reads this...you
are more than welcome to contact
me !!!!!!! and I apologize if you happen to be in the middle of a
month long atlantic crossing or something, but if your answered an
email from my other address, then you could answer one from my first
one !!!!!.........duane....................thanks for everyones
time, I am not crying here, just feel obligated to maybe save some
one else, the headache of waitng for a month, if not
worse......................