Re: Sexy WINDERMERE fillet pieces pictures
Lucky you for the foam friend. To buy enough here for 2m3, it was
several hundred dollars...only one firm to supply of course, a
monopoly.
Quantaties, yes, I remember many years ago making a mold for a false
tank for my racing motorcycle, from plywood. I mixed and poured in
the foam, and the whole thing exploded a few minutes later. Had to
start with a new mold.
DonB
several hundred dollars...only one firm to supply of course, a
monopoly.
Quantaties, yes, I remember many years ago making a mold for a false
tank for my racing motorcycle, from plywood. I mixed and poured in
the foam, and the whole thing exploded a few minutes later. Had to
start with a new mold.
DonB
>several
> Hi Don,
> Thanks! It is getting exciting around here now that the
> weeks worth of pissy weather appears to be over.of
> Don't know the actual price yet for the foam but I have a
> friend who works in the industry and he assures me he can get the
> relatively small amount I need for, oh say, the price of a couple
> cases of good cold beer and a promise to take him for a ride whenthe
> boat is launched.Added to that,I will also benefit from hisoff
> experience so that I do not "over-pour" and blow the whole fillet
> the hull............
> Nothing like having friends in the right places at the right
> times!
>
> Sincerely,
> Peter Lenihan
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, sctree <sctree@d...> wrote:
Did you cut and fit,
> or did Bolger (or you) plot out the dimensions?
>
> Also did you read the account of the Topaz in Florida last January?
Had
> a rupture in one of the fillets and had a fillet full of water for
a few
> days.... I recall it wasn't until haulout that he found the
trouble... I
> guess your foam will prevent that.
>
> Rick
Hi Rick,
The fillet pieces are all dimensioned on the plans by Bolger.I
sure wish that I knew how he figures out the shape! I really had to
double check all my measurements before having the nerve to cut and
even then I left myself a 1/4" margin outside the line.
However,I need not have worried so much since I had already
built a scale model of WINDERMERE with the fillet piece and it worked
as planned.Mind you,there is one heck of a difference between holding
down the model piece with a few fingers while the glue sets and
fitting the full sized version where,if you haven't gone through a
few dry runs,you may soon wish you had a few pair of extra hands
around :-)
Bolger does call for a few short cleats to fasten the fillet
pieces to but I opted to go for a full perimeter frame work to ensure
a good solid bearing since I was using my body weight to gently bend
the fillet piece in place.It also saved alot of epoxy!
I am aware of the unfortunate accident with the Topaz and as a
step against such a thing happening to me,I have gone with 3/8" ply
instead of the called for 1/4" for the fillet pieces.Also,they will
both be receiving 2 layers of 10oz. glass.The expanded foam is but
another defense against such an event.Bolger calls for styrofoam
peanuts topped off with the expanding foam.My foam friend thinks this
is just a waste of time and allows little air pockets to
remain......not a good think in a variable climate.
Finally,my intended use scenarios do not include any
trailering.She will be kept in the water all the time except for end
of season storage where a trusted pro boat hauler will deal with
WINDERMERE and her relationship with a trailer :-) I may even build a
proper craddle for her so that contact with a trailer is remote.
If you are interested in retro-fitting a fillet piece on your
boat,you may wish to contact our Hero and see if he or Susanne will
work it out for you.Mind you,it is not a job I would wish to attempt
from upside down!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan
Peter,
Those fillets sure do look sexy. I've studied the bottom of my
Microtrawler a dozen times trying to figure out how to fit a pair of
them. Now that I see yours I can see how it's done. Did you cut and fit,
or did Bolger (or you) plot out the dimensions?
Also did you read the account of the Topaz in Florida last January? Had
a rupture in one of the fillets and had a fillet full of water for a few
days.... I recall it wasn't until haulout that he found the trouble... I
guess your foam will prevent that.
Rick
Peter Lenihan wrote:
Those fillets sure do look sexy. I've studied the bottom of my
Microtrawler a dozen times trying to figure out how to fit a pair of
them. Now that I see yours I can see how it's done. Did you cut and fit,
or did Bolger (or you) plot out the dimensions?
Also did you read the account of the Topaz in Florida last January? Had
a rupture in one of the fillets and had a fillet full of water for a few
days.... I recall it wasn't until haulout that he found the trouble... I
guess your foam will prevent that.
Rick
Peter Lenihan wrote:
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "dbaldnz" <oink@p...> wrote:[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > My Goodness Peter, Windermere is looking like a boat!
> > And as you say, the only chuckling will be in the Master Bedroom.
> > Is expanding foam a reasonable price in Canada? I looked at it here
> > for filling some internal holes, and the cost would have been
> > horrendous.
> > DonB
>
> Hi Don,
> Thanks! It is getting exciting around here now that the several
> weeks worth of pissy weather appears to be over.
> Don't know the actual price yet for the foam but I have a
> friend who works in the industry and he assures me he can get the
> relatively small amount I need for, oh say, the price of a couple of
> cases of good cold beer and a promise to take him for a ride when the
> boat is launched.Added to that,I will also benefit from his
> experience so that I do not "over-pour" and blow the whole fillet off
> the hull............
> Nothing like having friends in the right places at the right
> times!
>
> Sincerely,
> Peter Lenihan
>
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--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hector" <bruce_hector@h...>
wrote:
THIS years messabout but next year.......look out!
Now,what's all this business about storing beer in the fillet pieces
or,worse,making wine in them? Windermere will have a proper "wine
cellar" up forward bellow the dinette area and vast under floor
storage for a liberal selection of some of Canadas finest micro-
breweries wares.
Besides,I just wouldn't feel right serving Le Baron de Kingston and
the Baroness stuff I normally would share with rascals,pirates,drunks
and dreamers(my usual tight circle of friends).No way! Only the
finest imported French and Italian reds with some Ports and Sherries
tossed in to ease the gentle passage of a fine meal down to the trap
door will do! Aye,Aye, Captain!
Oh yes,we will have refrigeration and ice on board for the invited
gentry and royality.
Sincerely,
Peter"the hand sanding fairer" Lenihan,looking forward to tomorrows
marathon fairing session,with glee...almost too excited to sleep
tonight,from along the shores of the St.Lawrence..........
wrote:
>the
> The only foam in them should be from the draught beer. Ale in the
> portside, lager in the starboard. >
> Or you could turn all pommy, and make them underwater carboys for
> production and storage of some fine boat-made wine. Red inthe "port"-
> side of course.Sorry Bruce, unless something like a miracle happens,she won't be at
>
> Seriously Peter, she's looking VERY sweet, keep it up, and it just
> might float in time for the Messabout.
>
> Bruce Hector
THIS years messabout but next year.......look out!
Now,what's all this business about storing beer in the fillet pieces
or,worse,making wine in them? Windermere will have a proper "wine
cellar" up forward bellow the dinette area and vast under floor
storage for a liberal selection of some of Canadas finest micro-
breweries wares.
Besides,I just wouldn't feel right serving Le Baron de Kingston and
the Baroness stuff I normally would share with rascals,pirates,drunks
and dreamers(my usual tight circle of friends).No way! Only the
finest imported French and Italian reds with some Ports and Sherries
tossed in to ease the gentle passage of a fine meal down to the trap
door will do! Aye,Aye, Captain!
Oh yes,we will have refrigeration and ice on board for the invited
gentry and royality.
Sincerely,
Peter"the hand sanding fairer" Lenihan,looking forward to tomorrows
marathon fairing session,with glee...almost too excited to sleep
tonight,from along the shores of the St.Lawrence..........
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "dbaldnz" <oink@p...> wrote:
Thanks! It is getting exciting around here now that the several
weeks worth of pissy weather appears to be over.
Don't know the actual price yet for the foam but I have a
friend who works in the industry and he assures me he can get the
relatively small amount I need for, oh say, the price of a couple of
cases of good cold beer and a promise to take him for a ride when the
boat is launched.Added to that,I will also benefit from his
experience so that I do not "over-pour" and blow the whole fillet off
the hull............
Nothing like having friends in the right places at the right
times!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan
> My Goodness Peter, Windermere is looking like a boat!Hi Don,
> And as you say, the only chuckling will be in the Master Bedroom.
> Is expanding foam a reasonable price in Canada? I looked at it here
> for filling some internal holes, and the cost would have been
> horrendous.
> DonB
Thanks! It is getting exciting around here now that the several
weeks worth of pissy weather appears to be over.
Don't know the actual price yet for the foam but I have a
friend who works in the industry and he assures me he can get the
relatively small amount I need for, oh say, the price of a couple of
cases of good cold beer and a promise to take him for a ride when the
boat is launched.Added to that,I will also benefit from his
experience so that I do not "over-pour" and blow the whole fillet off
the hull............
Nothing like having friends in the right places at the right
times!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan
--- Inbolger3@yahoogroups.com, "peterlenihan" <oink@p...Once the
bottom is faired and sanded, two layers of glass cloth will be
applied followed by epoxy barriercoat/primer. Then the bottom will be
ready for turning over and the hollow cavities of the fillet pieces
will then be filled with expanding foam.
What's this, foam stuff?
The only foam in them should be from the draught beer. Ale in the
portside, lager in the starboard. Imagine the natural cooling from
being in contact with all that nicely chilled Canadian water, out of
any sunlight that could make the beer skunky, gentle bobbing keeping
the brew suddsy and ready for that perfect pour. Why, just add an old
fashioned manual beer pump with a tee leading to the separate tanks
and voila! .... enough o' the amber throat charmer for a whole week
of cruising!
Or you could turn all pommy, and make them underwater carboys for the
production and storage of some fine boat-made wine. Red in the "port"-
side of course.
Seriously Peter, she's looking VERY sweet, keep it up, and it just
might float in time for the Messabout.
Bruce Hector
bottom is faired and sanded, two layers of glass cloth will be
applied followed by epoxy barriercoat/primer. Then the bottom will be
ready for turning over and the hollow cavities of the fillet pieces
will then be filled with expanding foam.
What's this, foam stuff?
The only foam in them should be from the draught beer. Ale in the
portside, lager in the starboard. Imagine the natural cooling from
being in contact with all that nicely chilled Canadian water, out of
any sunlight that could make the beer skunky, gentle bobbing keeping
the brew suddsy and ready for that perfect pour. Why, just add an old
fashioned manual beer pump with a tee leading to the separate tanks
and voila! .... enough o' the amber throat charmer for a whole week
of cruising!
Or you could turn all pommy, and make them underwater carboys for the
production and storage of some fine boat-made wine. Red in the "port"-
side of course.
Seriously Peter, she's looking VERY sweet, keep it up, and it just
might float in time for the Messabout.
Bruce Hector
My Goodness Peter, Windermere is looking like a boat!
And as you say, the only chuckling will be in the Master Bedroom.
Is expanding foam a reasonable price in Canada? I looked at it here
for filling some internal holes, and the cost would have been
horrendous.
DonB
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Lenihan" <ellengaest@b...>
wrote:
And as you say, the only chuckling will be in the Master Bedroom.
Is expanding foam a reasonable price in Canada? I looked at it here
for filling some internal holes, and the cost would have been
horrendous.
DonB
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Lenihan" <ellengaest@b...>
wrote:
> Bolgerados,the
> With a speed uncommon for me,I have posted some photos of
> instalation of my fillet pieces against the box-keel. I mustconfess
> that the pictures simply do not do justice to the curves visibleup
> close and"live". I guess it's like sunsets and ocean waves.....thebefore,
> fullness of the experience cannot be copied on film:-(
> So,unless you've actually done this sort of building
> you'll just have to trust me that her looks,up forward,are to diefor
> and well worth the effort!!in
> Here's a link to the pictures:
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger3/files/WINDERMERE/
>
> Hope you enjoy them!!
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Peter Lenihan,just back from my first round of sanding and fairng
> preparation for final glassing of hull bottom and the weather is
> actually getting better!YIPPEE!!!
Bolgerados,
With a speed uncommon for me,I have posted some photos of the
instalation of my fillet pieces against the box-keel. I must confess
that the pictures simply do not do justice to the curves visible up
close and"live". I guess it's like sunsets and ocean waves.....the
fullness of the experience cannot be copied on film:-(
So,unless you've actually done this sort of building before,
you'll just have to trust me that her looks,up forward,are to die for
and well worth the effort!!
Here's a link to the pictures:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger3/files/WINDERMERE/
Hope you enjoy them!!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,just back from my first round of sanding and fairng in
preparation for final glassing of hull bottom and the weather is
actually getting better!YIPPEE!!!
With a speed uncommon for me,I have posted some photos of the
instalation of my fillet pieces against the box-keel. I must confess
that the pictures simply do not do justice to the curves visible up
close and"live". I guess it's like sunsets and ocean waves.....the
fullness of the experience cannot be copied on film:-(
So,unless you've actually done this sort of building before,
you'll just have to trust me that her looks,up forward,are to die for
and well worth the effort!!
Here's a link to the pictures:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bolger3/files/WINDERMERE/
Hope you enjoy them!!
Sincerely,
Peter Lenihan,just back from my first round of sanding and fairng in
preparation for final glassing of hull bottom and the weather is
actually getting better!YIPPEE!!!