Re: [bolger] Flood of Virus 'messages'
Ron,
I've got 46 yesterday and another 21 today...most which are spoofs of Microsoft "updates". I've checked all of the many addresses associated with these messages and found no commonality with any of the boating groups I belong to. Anyone else getting this trash in their inbox?
James
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I've got 46 yesterday and another 21 today...most which are spoofs of Microsoft "updates". I've checked all of the many addresses associated with these messages and found no commonality with any of the boating groups I belong to. Anyone else getting this trash in their inbox?
James
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'Bolger People',
Just a personal inquiry . . .
I typically change my 'return address' when I 'correspond' with my Lists
& Groups.
Yesterday evening, when I checked my 'mail', I found about 50+ 'infected
messages' that either the ISP or System Works had 'caught'.
This morning there was 175 I had to delete !!!!
Has anybody else experienced this ?
Regards & Thanks,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop
Just a personal inquiry . . .
I typically change my 'return address' when I 'correspond' with my Lists
& Groups.
Yesterday evening, when I checked my 'mail', I found about 50+ 'infected
messages' that either the ISP or System Works had 'caught'.
This morning there was 175 I had to delete !!!!
Has anybody else experienced this ?
Regards & Thanks,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop
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> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred'
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> - Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
> - Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930,
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> There are 25 messages in this issue.
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> Topics in this digest:
>
> 1. Re: CarTopping, which way up?
> From: "Bruce Hector" <bruce_hector@...>
> 2. Re: LESTAT has sailed off into the sunset
> From: Don Tyson <tysond99@...>
> 3. Hiking board on a Gypsy
> From: "gypsyonlakewinnipeg" <mkrauss@...>
> 4. Re: CarTopping, which way up?
> From: "b_owen_ca" <mariner@...>
> 5. Re: Hiking board on a Gypsy
> From: "Peter Lenihan" <lestat@...>
> 6. Re: LESTAT has sailed off into the sunset
> From: Bruce Hallman <bruce@...>
> 7. Re: LESTAT has sailed off into the sunset
> From: "Peter Lenihan" <lestat@...>
> 8. Re: LESTAT has sailed off into the sunset
> From: "John Spoering" <spoering@...>
> 9. Release agent for stainless steel
> From: "Marc Paquette" <mapaquette@...>
> 10. Re: LESTAT has sailed off into the sunset
> From: "Peter Lenihan" <lestat@...>
> 11. RE: Release agent for stainless steel
> From: "Bruce C. Anderson" <bcanderson@...>
> 12. Re: Release agent for stainless steel
> From: "Peter Lenihan" <lestat@...>
> 13. Re: LESTAT has sailed off into the sunset
> From: Don Tyson <tysond99@...>
> 14. Re: LESTAT has sailed off into the sunset
> From: Don Tyson <tysond99@...>
> 15. Re: LESTAT has sailed off into the sunset
> From: "Peter Lenihan" <lestat@...>
> 16. RE: Release agent for stainless steel
> From: Don Tyson <tysond99@...>
> 17. RE: Release agent for stainless steel
> From: Don Tyson <tysond99@...>
> 18. Can someone recommend Books on Bolgers designs?
> From: Bruce Hallman <bruce@...>
> 19. Re: Re: Kiln dried Douglas Fir
> From: "Roger Derby" <derbyrm@...>
> 20. Re: Can someone recommend Books on Bolgers designs?
> From: Don Tyson <tysond99@...>
> 21. Re: CarTopping, which way up?
> From: "Susan Davis" <futabachan@...>
> 22. Re: Re: CarTopping, which way up?
> From: Bruce Hallman <bruce@...>
> 23. Harr!
> From: "Susan Davis" <futabachan@...>
> 24. Re: Re: CarTopping, which way up?
> From: "Chuck Leinweber" <chuck@...>
> 25. Re: CarTopping, which way up?
> From: "chodges31711" <chodges@...>
>
>
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 12:51:04 -0000
> From: "Bruce Hector" <bruce_hector@...>
> Subject: Re: CarTopping, which way up?
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Susan Davis" <futabachan@y...> wrote:
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "dbaldnz" <oink@p...> wrote: and
> Bruce tied her in place with some truckers' hitches, and she stayed
> perfectly frozen in place for the whole trip back at full highway
> speeds.
>
> Sorry Sue,
>
> Those were sailor knots and hitches. A bowline or two, a few figure
> of eight loops and a parbuckle to tighten the lines.
>
> Bos'un Bruce
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 06:25:08 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Don Tyson <tysond99@...>
> Subject: Re: LESTAT has sailed off into the sunset
>
> Peter,
> I have a response from Mr. Bolger on speed and seaworthiness of
his sharpie designs. I won't type it all but he says "Lenihan's Points
are all good, concerning the varying quality of amateur (and
proffessional, for that matter) construction and of prudence and
preparedness of crews."
> He also talks truthfully about planing and rolling etc.
> If you would like the full page I could scan or fax.
> Don tyson
>
> Peter Lenihan <lestat@...> wrote:
> Bolgerados,
> What an incredible day of mixed emotions! After nearly 10
> years of blissful pleasures and adventures with my beloved
> MICRO"LESTAT",she has sailed off into the happy hands of a new owner!
> Her new home will be out in the Canadian Praires where,I dream,she
> will end her days sailing over vast oceans of golden wheat :-)
> Of course the reality is that she will be trailered to numerous lakes
> and get a chance to experience new happy adventures which her new
> owner will undoubtably indulge in.
> Perhaps LESTAT will appreciate the cleaner waters of inland
> lakes then the toxic soup of the mighty St.Lawrence I was able to
> provide her.
> Hopefully,too,her new owner will spoil her the way
> grandparents sometimes spoil their grandkids:-)
> At any rate,I am much relieved to know that she will see the
> water once again since I have simply been rather busy with WINDERMERE
> construction and dreams.No longer will I fear having her waste away
> in some little boat yard while I indulge"the other woman".Never again
> while I have to go to the little boat yard,feeling like a guilty good
> for nuthin' rat and cuddle up to LESTAT with cheap excuses for not
> having come by more often.....hell,I never even called or sent her a
> birthday card! No more will the spiders and bugs think they had it
> made in the shade with LESTAT sitting there lifeless in the yard.
> Have fun LESTAT,be good,don't give the new owner any"lip" the
> way you used to with me,keep the new owner and his guests safe,make
> sure they always come back to the dock eager for tomorrows sailing
> adventures,don't get too snooty in mixed company even if you really
> believe that "frozen snot" sounds better then fiberglass and last but
> not least,.......write once in a while,you spoiled little jewel of my
> heart!!
>
>
> Salut mon amour!
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Peter Lenihan,strangely empty inside but filled with new hopes for
> LESTAT and,one day,WINDERMERE too,from along the melancholy shores of
> the St.Lawrence.............
>
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred'
posts
> - Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
> - Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930,
Fax: (978) 282-1349
> - Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> - Open discussion:bolger_coffee_lounge-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 14:03:11 -0000
> From: "gypsyonlakewinnipeg" <mkrauss@...>
> Subject: Hiking board on a Gypsy
>
> My Gypsy is about ten years old and it requires restoration, again:
> filling checks in the plywood and repainting. I don't use the boat
> very often because it is not competitive in club races matched
> against Lasers and other high performance craft. I am interested in
> sailing quickly and I have other boats (Tasar, Lightning) that
> satisfy my need for speed. As it is, I doubt I will ever use the
> Gypsy and it is wasting away from lack of use. I am thinking that
> it would be fun to experiment with the Gypsy giving her a much
> larger sail area and adding a sliding hiking board to counterbalance
> the added sail force. I plan on using a laser rig because they are
> common and I have one on hand. A Laser rig cannot support a trapeze
> and it would be very uncomfortable to hike out on a Gypsy's thin
> gunwales. I have no experience with hiking boards beyond seeing
> them in illustrations and pictures, especially on the International
> Canoe. Nevertheless, I think it would be a fun option for
> counterbalancing the boat. I believe that if I can keep the weight
> of this retrofit to a minimum, I could have a fast boat because of
> the light weight, flat bottom, relatively narrow beam and long
> length. Does anyone have any experience retrofitting a Bolger
> dinghy in this manner? I have some fundamental questions: how do I
> determine the centre of force of the Laser rig and where do I
> situate the mast step to balance the COF in the boat? How long
> should the hiking board be to counter balance the sail force? How
> should the sliding mechanism for the hiking board be designed? Of
> what material and how thick and wide should the board be to support
> one 185 pound crew? How can I do all of this and keep the weight
> down. I would appreciate any advice. I apologize in advance to
> admirers of Bolger's creations for my intention to alter an already
> perfectly designed craft.
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 14:34:47 -0000
> From: "b_owen_ca" <mariner@...>
> Subject: Re: CarTopping, which way up?
>
> Yo Bruce
>
> I know bowlines and figure of eight (and recently found out how to
> tie a Monk's knot stopper knot) but how do you tie a parbuckle?
>
> Bryant
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Hector" <bruce_hector@h...>
> wrote:
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Susan Davis" <futabachan@y...>
> wrote:
> > > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "dbaldnz" <oink@p...> wrote: and
> > Bruce tied her in place with some truckers' hitches, and she stayed
> > perfectly frozen in place for the whole trip back at full highway
> > speeds.
> >
> > Sorry Sue,
> >
> > Those were sailor knots and hitches. A bowline or two, a few figure
> > of eight loops and a parbuckle to tighten the lines.
> >
> > Bos'un Bruce
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 14:54:32 -0000
> From: "Peter Lenihan" <lestat@...>
> Subject: Re: Hiking board on a Gypsy
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "gypsyonlakewinnipeg" <mkrauss@m...>
> wrote:
> As it is, I doubt I will ever use the
> > Gypsy and it is wasting away from lack of use. I am thinking that
> > it would be fun to experiment with the Gypsy giving her a much
> > larger sail area and adding a sliding hiking board to
> counterbalance
> > the added sail force
>
>
>
> Considering that the other option is apparently letting her fall by
> the wayside from neglect,it sounds like fun! And you get to be the
> trail blazer,to boot:-) Just keep in mind that she was never designed
> for this use and that any failures(or successes!) will be all yours.
>
>
>
>
> how do I
> > determine the centre of force of the Laser rig and where do I
> > situate the mast step to balance the COF in the boat?
>
>
> Trace a drawing of the Laser rig right over the sail plan of the
> Gypsy.Perhaps you can get a small drawing of the Laser sail plan from
> the Laser Association which shows its exact c/e.
>
>
>
> How long
> > should the hiking board be to counter balance the sail force? How
> > should the sliding mechanism for the hiking board be designed? Of
> > what material and how thick and wide should the board be to support
> > one 185 pound crew?
>
> If it were me,I would beef up the gunnel in the area of the hiking
> board,then I would glue/screw a plywood panel several inches wider
> then the hiking board to the side of the hull with a slot cut out on
> top where the board slides through it.As for the hiking board,I'd
> make it about 14" wide and long enough to hang out by 30" when fully
> extended.At each end of the board,I'd fasten a small cleat( 1"X1")
> across the ends to serve as stops when pulled through the slots of
> your added supports.When not used,it is slid half way in leaving
> about 15""wings" sticking out on each side. As your experience grows
> and barring any catastrophic failures,you could even try using longer
> hiking boards.Mind you,if you hull is already somewhat tired,there
> may well be a practical limit she will handle before just braking
> apart.The board need not be any thicker then 3/4" ply.
>
>
>
>
> How can I do all of this and keep the weight
> > down.
>
> Use plywood,without fiberglass and get used to the extra
> weight.Besides,you want some weight for its steading effect in higher
> winds,no? Finn sailors wear water ballast jackets to improve the live
> ballast effect.:-)
>
>
>
> I would appreciate any advice. I apologize in advance to
> > admirers of Bolger's creations for my intention to alter an already
> > perfectly designed craft.
>
>
> Final word,I have absolutely no experience with any of the above
> (although I did own a Laser,my first boat,28 years ago) and wish you
> all the best with your experiment.Post some pictures of her under her
> new rig once she's all done.At least this experiment beats the hell
> out of the scrap pile!!
>
>
> Good Luck!
>
> Peter Lenihan
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 08:05:23 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Bruce Hallman <bruce@...>
> Subject: Re: LESTAT has sailed off into the sunset
>
> --- Don Tyson wrote:
> > a response from Mr. Bolger
> > If you would like the full
> > page I could scan or fax.
>
> I would like to read it!
>
> I wish there was a way to
> collect together all the
> handwritten PCB notes, so
> that we all could read,
> learn, and enjoy them.
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 15:18:26 -0000
> From: "Peter Lenihan" <lestat@...>
> Subject: Re: LESTAT has sailed off into the sunset
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "dbaldnz" <oink@p...> wrote:
> > Lestat is a peculiar name for a woman?
>
>
> Indeed it is Don,but then again,Lestat is a rather peculiar vampire
> and the MICRO.....well what can I say,she is the product of an
> ancient workboat(catboat),re-defined and infused by a master with
> evolved designed elements(full length shallow keel mated to a tiny
> rudder and balanced with a mizzen sail) and assembled with totally
> modern materials(epoxy,S/S fasteners etc).The net result being a rare
> beauty which transcends time, forever carrying with her shadows of
> her past while remaining relevant in an oh so modern world.Pretty
> much like the vampire Lestat,no?
>
> > Pesky Crew will be relieved she's gone.
>
>
> Well,in so many words yes. Although she did confess yesterday that it
> was a good thing that we had not used her for the past two summers
> otherwise had this summer been filled with adventures( an unlikely
> occurance,mind you,considering her hellish schedule),her sailing away
> would have brought on a flood of tears.But these Italians are
> sometimes so dramatic and emotional so it is difficult to accurately
> guage the depth of their sincerity :-)
>
> But never fear! WINDERMERE will one day blow away all thoughts of
> distant memories of small boat highjinks and fully come into her own
> with some serious skinny water cruises of adventure and exploration
> while bare feet shuffle along the Persian rugs to refill a lonely
> goblet of Port waiting patiently in my left hand as I gaze out at the
> slowing evolving shorelines. Oh the bliss and the tyranny of it all!
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Peter Lenihan
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 11:20:17 -0400
> From: "John Spoering" <spoering@...>
> Subject: Re: LESTAT has sailed off into the sunset
>
> Would love to see just what Phil Bolger wrote, especially, as to
what he said about "Champlain" cruising up the coast from Florida to New
York. If he thought it a good idea perhaps in a year or so we could
make it to the Kingston Messabout.
>
>
Aloha - Jack Spoering - Ft Lauderdale
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 15:23:57 -0000
> From: "Marc Paquette" <mapaquette@...>
> Subject: Release agent for stainless steel
>
> I want to embed a stainless steel nut and bolt in epoxy such that the
nut stays
> permanently in the epoxy but the threads of the nut and bolt are
clean, allowing the
> bolt to be screwed in and out:
>
> 1. Clean and degrease the stainless steel nut and bolt meticulously.
>
> 2. With a cotton swab, carefully "paint" the threads of the nut and
bolt with a light
> coat of cooking oil.
>
> 3. Thread the bolt into the nut to the required depth and position
them in the cavity
> that the nut will be sealed in.
>
> 4. Fill the cavity with (slightly thickened) epoxy.
>
> 5. After epoxy sets, unscrew and screw the bolt arbitrarily.
>
> Does that make sense?
>
> Marc.
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 15:34:11 -0000
> From: "Peter Lenihan" <lestat@...>
> Subject: Re: LESTAT has sailed off into the sunset
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
> >
> > I wish there was a way to
> > collect together all the
> > handwritten PCB notes, so
> > that we all could read,
> > learn, and enjoy them.
>
> Good point Bruce! I think that both our esteemed moderator( The Great
> Gregg Carlson :-) and yourself are doing a fine job in creating and
> maintaining this over all repository of Bolger Brandishings.You,in
> particular, for creating data basises(sp) which help to preserve
> while making readily available,tons of info relevant to Bolger. I
> dread the day of his passing which may well see his entire body of
> work end up in sequestered in some difficult to access museum which
> will require reserved appointment viewing times just to take a peek
> at his work :-(
> I am also inclined to think that this group does well in fostering
> interest in Bolgers work,encouraging the building of his designs and
> relieving the good offices of PCB&Fs of a lot of tedious
> correspondance which can more expediously be handled here.All that
> free time thus allows the Master to continue producing some
> remarkable dream machines for us pirates to drool over :-)
>
> I'll vote for another data base of Bolger Brandishings !!!
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Peter Lenihan,confirmed Bolger nutcase,boat bum and all around
> fool,from along the shopres of the mighty St.Lawrence..........
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 08:35:35 -0700
> From: "Bruce C. Anderson" <bcanderson@...>
> Subject: RE: Release agent for stainless steel
>
> Howdy
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Subject: [bolger] Release agent for stainless steel
> >
> >
> > I want to embed a stainless steel nut and bolt in epoxy such
> > that the nut stays
> > permanently in the epoxy
>
> Consider using a Wing nut for the embedded fastener. Otherwise sounds
> good to me. :)
>
> Good Luck
>
> See Ya
>
> Have Fun
>
> Bruce
>
>http://myweb.cableone.net/bcanderson/
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 15:39:27 -0000
> From: "Peter Lenihan" <lestat@...>
> Subject: Re: Release agent for stainless steel
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Marc Paquette" <mapaquette@y...>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Marc,
> Get some Johnson&Johnson floor wax/paste and apply it to the
> threads only.Otherwise your approach sounds good.
>
>
> Peter Lenihan
> > I want to embed a stainless steel nut and bolt in epoxy such that
> the nut stays
> > permanently in the epoxy but the threads of the nut and bolt are
> clean, allowing the
> > bolt to be screwed in and out:
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 09:04:32 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Don Tyson <tysond99@...>
> Subject: Re: LESTAT has sailed off into the sunset
>
> Here it is Bruce.
> Maybe someone with more computer skills than me might be able to
post this with the Big Bolger Boat file someone poasted. Or maybe a
documents section could be started.
> Don
>
> Bruce Hallman <bruce@...> wrote:
> --- Don Tyson wrote:
> > a response from Mr. Bolger
> > If you would like the full
> > page I could scan or fax.
>
> I would like to read it!
>
> I wish there was a way to
> collect together all the
> handwritten PCB notes, so
> that we all could read,
> learn, and enjoy them.
>
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred'
posts
> - Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
> - Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930,
Fax: (978) 282-1349
> - Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> - Open discussion:bolger_coffee_lounge-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 09:30:39 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Don Tyson <tysond99@...>
> Subject: Re: LESTAT has sailed off into the sunset
>
> Sorry Jeff, No mention of Champlain. I'm confused as usual, is
Champlain a Windmere or is Windmere a Champlain or are they un-related
>
> John Spoering <spoering@...> wrote: Would love to see just
what Phil Bolger wrote, especially, as to what he said about "Champlain"
cruising up the coast from Florida to New York. If he thought it a good
idea perhaps in a year or so we could make it to the Kingston Messabout.
>
> Aloha - Jack Spoering - Ft Lauderdale
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred'
posts
> - Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
> - Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930,
Fax: (978) 282-1349
> - Unsubscribe:bolger-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> - Open discussion:bolger_coffee_lounge-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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> Message: 15
> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 16:42:38 -0000
> From: "Peter Lenihan" <lestat@...>
> Subject: Re: LESTAT has sailed off into the sunset
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Don Tyson <tysond99@y...> wrote:
> > Sorry Jeff, No mention of Champlain. I'm confused as usual, is
> Champlain a Windmere or is Windmere a Champlain or are they un-related
>
>
> Don,
> CHAMPLAIN is a Bolger design of 22' and WINDERMERE is the big
> sister at 31'.I'm building the big sister...........
>
> Peter Lenihan
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 16
> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 09:47:29 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Don Tyson <tysond99@...>
> Subject: RE: Release agent for stainless steel
>
> I've done this but I used Parafin pilfered from one of my wifes
candles.
> Works good.
>
> "Bruce C. Anderson" <bcanderson@...> wrote:
> Howdy
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Subject: [bolger] Release agent for stainless steel
> >
> >
> > I want to embed a stainless steel nut and bolt in epoxy such
> > that the nut stays
> > permanently in the epoxy
>
> Consider using a Wing nut for the embedded fastener. Otherwise sounds
> good to me. :)
>
> Good Luck
>
> See Ya
>
> Have Fun
>
> Bruce
>
>http://myweb.cableone.net/bcanderson/
>
>
>
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> Message: 17
> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 10:02:05 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Don Tyson <tysond99@...>
> Subject: RE: Release agent for stainless steel
>
> The real advantage to parafin is that (if you use a colored candle)
you can see wether or not it has migrated as lighter or oilier substance
will do.
> I have a question. Peter just pointed out the dif btwn Champ. and
Wndmr. Can someone recommend Books on Bolgers designs. I have Common
Sence Designs and Paysons Books but nothing on Bolger.
>
> Sincerely,
> Don Tyson
>
> Don Tyson <tysond99@...> wrote:
> I've done this but I used Parafin pilfered from one of my wifes
candles.
> Works good.
>
> "Bruce C. Anderson" wrote:
> Howdy
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Subject: [bolger] Release agent for stainless steel
> >
> >
> > I want to embed a stainless steel nut and bolt in epoxy such
> > that the nut stays
> > permanently in the epoxy
>
> Consider using a Wing nut for the embedded fastener. Otherwise sounds
> good to me. :)
>
> Good Luck
>
> See Ya
>
> Have Fun
>
> Bruce
>
>http://myweb.cableone.net/bcanderson/
>
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
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> Message: 18
> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 10:55:46 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Bruce Hallman <bruce@...>
> Subject: Can someone recommend Books on Bolgers designs?
>
> --- Don Tyson wrote:
> > Can someone recommend Books
> > on Bolgers designs?
>
> Start with his last book, still in print:
> _Boats with an Open Mind_
>
> This Yahoo group has a database that
> shows about 2/3rds of the PCB & PBF designs.
> ...click around, you will find it :)
>
> Perhaps 50% of the designs have been
> featured in the magazine _Messing About
> In Boats_, and most (all?) of these articles
> are available as 'reprints', for cheap,
> directly from the publisher Bob Hicks.
>
> See the index at:
>
>http://www.messingaboutinboats.com/archive.html
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 19
> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 14:33:37 -0400
> From: "Roger Derby" <derbyrm@...>
> Subject: Re: Re: Kiln dried Douglas Fir
>
> Thanks.
>
> I'll be building the "cruising conversion" to get out of the sun and
wind,
> so it will have a tabernacle for the mast. I'd figured to fill the
section
> of the mast from heel to maybe foot above the pivot point (with wood)
and
> taper the filling to avoid a hard stress point. Of course, the
impetus to
> use the Noble system is the reduced weight aloft (and during
> hoisting/erecting).
>
> No, I haven't quite figured out the technique yet. The article I read
> suggested boring out the center and inserting a dowel to reinforce the
ends,
> but I'm not sure I can drill a 3" diameter hole, three feet long, so
maybe
> I'll fit an octagonal shaped "dowel" for a filler. Wood flour filled
epoxy
> makes up for less than perfect joinery.
>
> On the dinghy I built, I dealt with knots by graving a block into the
bad
> spot, if minor. Otherwise I'll cut it out and scarf the pieces. 8:1
with
> filled epoxy seems to give adequate homogeneity.
>
> Roger
>derbyrm@...
>http://derbyrm.mystarband.net
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jas_orr" <jas_orr@...>
>
> > If I were you, I'd go ahead and use it, should make a good mast.
I'd
> > be more concerned about knots than whether it was kiln dried -- very
> > little wood is sold in lumber yards that isn't kiln dried, and
> > Douglas Fir is Douglas Fir either way. But have a look at Fraser
> > Howell's story about his broken birdsmouth mast in the Chebacco
News,
> > on the Chebacco page. His broke where it went through the cabin
> > roof, so he built another but reinforced this one. There's quite a
> > lot of information in the Chebacco News about different ways to do
> > this if I remember correctly.
> >
> > Best of luck with it, have you sent in pictures and stuff on your
> > boat to the Chebacco page yet?
> >
> > Jamie Orr
> > Chebacco "Wayward Lass"
> >
> > --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Roger Derby" <derbyrm@s...> wrote:
> > > Just how bad is the kiln dried stuff?
> > >
> > > I've got a substantial investment in DF bought for a now-
> > > abandoned project, and I was hoping to use the Noble system
> > > (bird's mouth) approach to making spars for a Chebacco. It's
> > > been sitting in a high humidity area for a couple of years now,
> > > so I guess what we're talking about is cell damage from
> > > the drying process???.
> > >
> > > Roger
> > > derbyrm@s...
> > >http://derbyrm.mystarband.net
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "sctree" <sctree@d...>
> > >
> > > > > The only realisticly economical woods
> > > > > I have available are D.Fir and Redwood.
> > > >
> > > > Redwood is too brittle. Dougfir would work great if not kiln
> > > > dried. Go buy a green Dougfir 2x- and rip out rough battens
> > > > now so it will air dry by the time you need it.
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 20
> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 11:44:18 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Don Tyson <tysond99@...>
> Subject: Re: Can someone recommend Books on Bolgers designs?
>
> Bruce, thanks, I'll buy the book. I have seen everything in the
database and am impressed but it doesn't let me into his mind and
reasoning. I think the book will help. Maybe previous articles will
also.
> Don
>
> Bruce Hallman <bruce@...> wrote:
> --- Don Tyson wrote:
> > Can someone recommend Books
> > on Bolgers designs?
>
> Start with his last book, still in print:
> _Boats with an Open Mind_
>
> This Yahoo group has a database that
> shows about 2/3rds of the PCB & PBF designs.
> ...click around, you will find it :)
>
> Perhaps 50% of the designs have been
> featured in the magazine _Messing About
> In Boats_, and most (all?) of these articles
> are available as 'reprints', for cheap,
> directly from the publisher Bob Hicks.
>
> See the index at:
>
>http://www.messingaboutinboats.com/archive.html
>
>
>
> Bolger rules!!!
> - no cursing, flaming, trolling, spamming, or flogging dead horses
> - stay on topic, stay on thread, punctuate, no 'Ed, thanks, Fred'
posts
> - Pls add your comments at the TOP, SIGN your posts, and snip away
> - Plans: Mr. Philip C. Bolger, P.O. Box 1209, Gloucester, MA, 01930,
Fax: (978) 282-1349
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> Message: 21
> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 19:30:00 -0000
> From: "Susan Davis" <futabachan@...>
> Subject: Re: CarTopping, which way up?
>
> Bryant:
> > I know bowlines and figure of eight (and recently found out how to
> > tie a Monk's knot stopper knot) but how do you tie a parbuckle?
>
> Well, the knot that Bruce used (and which I've been using ever since)
> involves making a bight in the line and tying a figure-eight knot
> in that so that the "bitter end" of the bight gives you a nice loop.
> The actual bitter end is then led around your other attachment point
> and back up to the loop, pulled tight (which gets a *lot* of slack
> out of the line), and secured with three half hitches.
>
> -- Sue --
> (it's much simpler to tie than to explain)
>
> --
> Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
>
>
>
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> Message: 22
> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 13:32:38 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Bruce Hallman <bruce@...>
> Subject: Re: Re: CarTopping, which way up?
>
> --- Susan Davis wrote:
>
> > Well, the knot that Bruce used
>
> ...is called a Packer's Knot,
> do a Google to see diagrams.
>
> It is my favorite knot, for cinching
> things tight. For parbuckling
> though, I am not sure...as a Packer's
> Knot would be hard to untie.
>
>http://www.inquiry.net/images/rope03.gif
>
> ...shows a 'Harvester's Knot' [which I
> have never used], but it might be more handy.
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 23
> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 21:20:02 -0000
> From: "Susan Davis" <futabachan@...>
> Subject: Harr!
>
> Avast, ye scurvy swabs! 'Tis International Talk Like A Pirate Day
today!
>
>http://www.talklikeapirateday.com/
>
> Harr, mateys!
>
> --
> The Dread Pirate Davis <futabachan@...>
>
>
>
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> Message: 24
> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 16:24:51 -0500
> From: "Chuck Leinweber" <chuck@...>
> Subject: Re: Re: CarTopping, which way up?
>
> Similar to this, Sue:
>
>http://www.dfw.net/~jazzman/knotter/truckers.htm
>
> Chuck
>
> > Well, the knot that Bruce used (and which I've been using ever
since)
> > involves making a bight in the line and tying a figure-eight knot
> > in that so that the "bitter end" of the bight gives you a nice loop.
> > The actual bitter end is then led around your other attachment point
> > and back up to the loop, pulled tight (which gets a *lot* of slack
> > out of the line), and secured with three half hitches.
> >
> > -- Sue --
> > (it's much simpler to tie than to explain)
> >
> > --
> > Susan Davis <futabachan@...>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 25
> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 22:07:43 -0000
> From: "chodges31711" <chodges@...>
> Subject: Re: CarTopping, which way up?
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Hallman <bruce@h...> wrote:
> > --- Susan Davis wrote:
> >
> > > Well, the knot that Bruce used
>
> It sounds like it is actually two knots. A "double figure 8 loop"
> makes a loop in one end of the rope. The other end of the rope goes
> around the cargo and then attaches to the loop with a double or
> triple half hitch.
>
> If you want it very easy to untie - make the first half hitch by
> sticking a bow though and not the rope end (like a bow knot-shoe
> laces). Then lay the loop beside the rope and tie another half hitch
> or more around all three pieces to lock things in place. The second
> (and third and fourth...) half hitch is not under load and unties
> easily. The first half hitch holds the load and is tight but unties
> easily because of the bow. It used to be taught in USAF survival
> school a long time ago to secure packs made from used parachutes.
>
>
> Charles
>
>
> > ...is called a Packer's Knot,
> > do a Google to see diagrams.
> >
> > It is my favorite knot, for cinching
> > things tight. For parbuckling
> > though, I am not sure...as a Packer's
> > Knot would be hard to untie.
> >
> >http://www.inquiry.net/images/rope03.gif
> >
> > ...shows a 'Harvester's Knot' [which I
> > have never used], but it might be more handy.
>
>
>
>
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