Re: Seabird on the water.
Thanks for the reply, yes, I agree, these boats are never "done". Every spring, I do a
project or two to improve my Long Micro...all part of the fun...
According to the Pardey book "Cost Conscious Cruiser" (p. 45), a professional yard
should take 2025 hours to build a 20ft boat with 4500lb displacement...materials
costs $9450 to $18,000...so you're doing well!
Best regards,
Dan
project or two to improve my Long Micro...all part of the fun...
According to the Pardey book "Cost Conscious Cruiser" (p. 45), a professional yard
should take 2025 hours to build a 20ft boat with 4500lb displacement...materials
costs $9450 to $18,000...so you're doing well!
Best regards,
Dan
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "nohnpages" <nohnmusik@g...> wrote:
> Yes I've recorded my working-time a little bit. My estimated 2000
> hours are nearly right.This includs most of the thinking-work and also
> making the hardware stuff myself, the blocks, bowroller, tabernacle
> hardware and so on. Now I'm at near 1800 hours and there is some work
> with the cabin inside and the sail. I think another 200 hours are
> needed.
> But, will it get ready someone? I feel a boat is like a house. There
> is a "to do list" all the time.
> I've done the work mostly myself. There are only a few points where
> I've needed more than two hands: Adjusting the bilge-panels, transport
> of the lead for the keel, to get the boat on the trailer...
> Costs are a topic every time. Blue Air has needed all inclusiv 7500
> Euro. That means a 8hp Mercury 2 cycle, 5 years old, all the ropes and
> blocks, security equipment, paint and so one.
> Mr. Bolgers plans are correct. There is one mesuring mistake in one
> Bulkhead but not important. There are a lot of points where you have
> to find a solution: foreward hatch, forward window, in my case I
> wasn't inspired about the beds...Looking for solutions was a big fun
> for me.
> And to go out with this boat is iiiiih, aaaaaaah,oooooooh, great.
> If there are questions, feel free to contact me.
> Stefan
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Dan_Gonneau" <info@z...> wrote:
> > Wow, she looks great, congrats!
> >
> > I'm wondering if you kept any kind of record of how much time
> (hours or days) she
> > took to build? Did you work mostly by yourself or did you have a
> co-builder? My own
> > Long Micro took about 800 hours, not including the roughly 400 that
> my father
> > helped me and about 100 hours from other folks.
> >
> > Just curious. After nine years with Long Micro, I've been thinking
> of building
> > something a bit bigger at some point in the future...certainly,
> SeaBird is one of my
> > favorites.
> >
> > Oh, and please do report back on her sailing abilities once you get
> her sailing.
> >
> > Thanks again,
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > Long Micro photos:http://www.znw.com/homepage/zephyr.htm
> > Long Micro mini-FAQ:http://www.znw.com/homepage/zephyr_faq.htm
> >
> > -- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "nohnpages" <nohnmusik@g...> wrote:
> > > Hello to all,
> > > I've launched my Seabird "Blue Air". She swimms nice in her line
> at
> > > the river rhine. I'm satisfied about her quality as a motorboat.
> > > She has'nt a sail yet. The bigger waves of the carriers (about
> > > 3ft)takes she from any direction without any interest.
> > > I've abloaded some pics to Bolger3/Photosection/Seabird.
> > > This boat is a fun to build and also a fun to drive with.
> > > Regards
> > > Stefan
Thanks Stefan.
Any chance for more photos?
Rick-
nohnpages wrote:
Any chance for more photos?
Rick-
nohnpages wrote:
> Yes I've recorded my working-time a little bit. My estimated 2000
> hours are nearly right.This includs most of the thinking-work and also
> making the hardware stuff myself, the blocks, bowroller, tabernacle
> hardware and so on. Now I'm at near 1800 hours and there is some work
> with the cabin inside and the sail. I think another 200 hours are
> needed.
> But, will it get ready someone? I feel a boat is like a house. There
> is a "to do list" all the time.
> I've done the work mostly myself. There are only a few points where
> I've needed more than two hands: Adjusting the bilge-panels, transport
> of the lead for the keel, to get the boat on the trailer...
> Costs are a topic every time. Blue Air has needed all inclusiv 7500
> Euro. That means a 8hp Mercury 2 cycle, 5 years old, all the ropes and
> blocks, security equipment, paint and so one.
> Mr. Bolgers plans are correct. There is one mesuring mistake in one
> Bulkhead but not important. There are a lot of points where you have
> to find a solution: foreward hatch, forward window, in my case I
> wasn't inspired about the beds...Looking for solutions was a big fun
> for me.
> And to go out with this boat is iiiiih, aaaaaaah,oooooooh, great.
> If there are questions, feel free to contact me.
> Stefan
>
> --
Yes I've recorded my working-time a little bit. My estimated 2000
hours are nearly right.This includs most of the thinking-work and also
making the hardware stuff myself, the blocks, bowroller, tabernacle
hardware and so on. Now I'm at near 1800 hours and there is some work
with the cabin inside and the sail. I think another 200 hours are
needed.
But, will it get ready someone? I feel a boat is like a house. There
is a "to do list" all the time.
I've done the work mostly myself. There are only a few points where
I've needed more than two hands: Adjusting the bilge-panels, transport
of the lead for the keel, to get the boat on the trailer...
Costs are a topic every time. Blue Air has needed all inclusiv 7500
Euro. That means a 8hp Mercury 2 cycle, 5 years old, all the ropes and
blocks, security equipment, paint and so one.
Mr. Bolgers plans are correct. There is one mesuring mistake in one
Bulkhead but not important. There are a lot of points where you have
to find a solution: foreward hatch, forward window, in my case I
wasn't inspired about the beds...Looking for solutions was a big fun
for me.
And to go out with this boat is iiiiih, aaaaaaah,oooooooh, great.
If there are questions, feel free to contact me.
Stefan
hours are nearly right.This includs most of the thinking-work and also
making the hardware stuff myself, the blocks, bowroller, tabernacle
hardware and so on. Now I'm at near 1800 hours and there is some work
with the cabin inside and the sail. I think another 200 hours are
needed.
But, will it get ready someone? I feel a boat is like a house. There
is a "to do list" all the time.
I've done the work mostly myself. There are only a few points where
I've needed more than two hands: Adjusting the bilge-panels, transport
of the lead for the keel, to get the boat on the trailer...
Costs are a topic every time. Blue Air has needed all inclusiv 7500
Euro. That means a 8hp Mercury 2 cycle, 5 years old, all the ropes and
blocks, security equipment, paint and so one.
Mr. Bolgers plans are correct. There is one mesuring mistake in one
Bulkhead but not important. There are a lot of points where you have
to find a solution: foreward hatch, forward window, in my case I
wasn't inspired about the beds...Looking for solutions was a big fun
for me.
And to go out with this boat is iiiiih, aaaaaaah,oooooooh, great.
If there are questions, feel free to contact me.
Stefan
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Dan_Gonneau" <info@z...> wrote:
> Wow, she looks great, congrats!
>
> I'm wondering if you kept any kind of record of how much time
(hours or days) she
> took to build? Did you work mostly by yourself or did you have a
co-builder? My own
> Long Micro took about 800 hours, not including the roughly 400 that
my father
> helped me and about 100 hours from other folks.
>
> Just curious. After nine years with Long Micro, I've been thinking
of building
> something a bit bigger at some point in the future...certainly,
SeaBird is one of my
> favorites.
>
> Oh, and please do report back on her sailing abilities once you get
her sailing.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Dan
>
> Long Micro photos:http://www.znw.com/homepage/zephyr.htm
> Long Micro mini-FAQ:http://www.znw.com/homepage/zephyr_faq.htm
>
> -- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "nohnpages" <nohnmusik@g...> wrote:
> > Hello to all,
> > I've launched my Seabird "Blue Air". She swimms nice in her line
at
> > the river rhine. I'm satisfied about her quality as a motorboat.
> > She has'nt a sail yet. The bigger waves of the carriers (about
> > 3ft)takes she from any direction without any interest.
> > I've abloaded some pics to Bolger3/Photosection/Seabird.
> > This boat is a fun to build and also a fun to drive with.
> > Regards
> > Stefan
Wow, she looks great, congrats!
I'm wondering if you kept any kind of record of how much time (hours or days) she
took to build? Did you work mostly by yourself or did you have a co-builder? My own
Long Micro took about 800 hours, not including the roughly 400 that my father
helped me and about 100 hours from other folks.
Just curious. After nine years with Long Micro, I've been thinking of building
something a bit bigger at some point in the future...certainly, SeaBird is one of my
favorites.
Oh, and please do report back on her sailing abilities once you get her sailing.
Thanks again,
Dan
Long Micro photos:http://www.znw.com/homepage/zephyr.htm
Long Micro mini-FAQ:http://www.znw.com/homepage/zephyr_faq.htm
-- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "nohnpages" <nohnmusik@g...> wrote:
I'm wondering if you kept any kind of record of how much time (hours or days) she
took to build? Did you work mostly by yourself or did you have a co-builder? My own
Long Micro took about 800 hours, not including the roughly 400 that my father
helped me and about 100 hours from other folks.
Just curious. After nine years with Long Micro, I've been thinking of building
something a bit bigger at some point in the future...certainly, SeaBird is one of my
favorites.
Oh, and please do report back on her sailing abilities once you get her sailing.
Thanks again,
Dan
Long Micro photos:http://www.znw.com/homepage/zephyr.htm
Long Micro mini-FAQ:http://www.znw.com/homepage/zephyr_faq.htm
-- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "nohnpages" <nohnmusik@g...> wrote:
> Hello to all,
> I've launched my Seabird "Blue Air". She swimms nice in her line at
> the river rhine. I'm satisfied about her quality as a motorboat.
> She has'nt a sail yet. The bigger waves of the carriers (about
> 3ft)takes she from any direction without any interest.
> I've abloaded some pics to Bolger3/Photosection/Seabird.
> This boat is a fun to build and also a fun to drive with.
> Regards
> Stefan
Stefan,
Your boat is beautiful.
Thank you for posting the photos. Please post more when you get them,
and I too would like to read of your sailing reports....
I remember seeing some photos you had on a website during construction.
Is that website still available? If it is, would you please post the
address.
Rick-
nohnpages wrote:
Your boat is beautiful.
Thank you for posting the photos. Please post more when you get them,
and I too would like to read of your sailing reports....
I remember seeing some photos you had on a website during construction.
Is that website still available? If it is, would you please post the
address.
Rick-
nohnpages wrote:
> The Photos are in
> Bolger2/Photos/Seabird.
> Stefan
>
>
I'm sorry. In my first Mail is a mistake. The Photos are in
Bolger2/Photos/Seabird.
Stefan
Bolger2/Photos/Seabird.
Stefan
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "nohnpages" <nohnmusik@g...> wrote:
> Hello to all,
> I've launched my Seabird "Blue Air". She swimms nice in her line at
> the river rhine. I'm satisfied about her quality as a motorboat.
> She has'nt a sail yet. The bigger waves of the carriers (about
> 3ft)takes she from any direction without any interest.
> I've abloaded some pics to Bolger3/Photosection/Seabird.
> This boat is a fun to build and also a fun to drive with.
> Regards
> Stefan
> I've launched my Seabird "Blue Air".The photos are in Bolger2, not Bolger3.
Wonderful, marvelous.... She looks great and your color scheme gives
her an old world air, to this American eye. Your craftsmanship stands
out a mile. I'm sure that a picture to Mr. Bolger would make his day;
they've gone a long way to making mine. I'm looking forward to your
comments on her sailing ability.
Damn, now I have to start day-dreaming about my sail around New
England again. (Seabird was my high-end boat of choice.)
Peter
Hello to all,
I've launched my Seabird "Blue Air". She swimms nice in her line at
the river rhine. I'm satisfied about her quality as a motorboat.
She has'nt a sail yet. The bigger waves of the carriers (about
3ft)takes she from any direction without any interest.
I've abloaded some pics to Bolger3/Photosection/Seabird.
This boat is a fun to build and also a fun to drive with.
Regards
Stefan
I've launched my Seabird "Blue Air". She swimms nice in her line at
the river rhine. I'm satisfied about her quality as a motorboat.
She has'nt a sail yet. The bigger waves of the carriers (about
3ft)takes she from any direction without any interest.
I've abloaded some pics to Bolger3/Photosection/Seabird.
This boat is a fun to build and also a fun to drive with.
Regards
Stefan