Re: Sneakeasy-like boat

Thanks Chris. If I go digging I should have that issue of MAIB.

Steve H

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Stewart" <stewtone@m...> wrote:
> I don't have any other information about it. See message 15218.

"Roger B. Frick" wrote:

>
> Can't seem to get this link to come up. Suggestions?
> >http://tinyurl.com/oyzg

The link is to the Lake Launch you've seen now in the power sharpies folder.
I may have to fire Tiny URL...

Mark

I don't have any other information about it. See message 15218.

Chris Stewart


--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "pseudospark" <shansen@t...> wrote:>

> Chris,
>
> Nice little boat. I can't resolve any of the detail on the image in
> the files area but it looks like this does have a number as opposed
> to being an unnumbered SBJ cartoon. What is it and is there a

higher

> res. image available?
>
> Thanks,
> Steve Hansen
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Stewart" <stewtone@m...>

wrote:

> > How about Lake Launch, in the Power Sharpie folder of the Files
> > section? It's already about 16 feet as designed, looks a bit like
> > a short, open Sneakeasy, and would allow you to putter around
> > quite nicely with 5hp..

Can't seem to get this link to come up. Suggestions?

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Mark <marka@h...> wrote:
> Hi, Roger:
>
> Only to suggest thinking like a kayak the whole way: Philip Bolger
comments that the
> famous flat wake results (partly) from the boat being, "Very light
in proportion to the
> size of her bottom."
>
> He has already drawn a smaller one for you.
> It's an open boat, but maybe you could give it a dacron skin deck.
>http://tinyurl.com/oyzg
>
>
> Can't pull a trailer with a convertible? Who knew?
>
> BW,
> Mark
>
> "Roger B. Frick" wrote:
>
> > My only experience boatuilding has been with skin-on-frame kayaks,
but
> > I figure that if I take all winter, go slow, measure 50 times
before I
> > cut I should come out ok. I plan on using Luan ply wherever
possible,
> > putting in some extra stringers perhaps to keep the boat stiff,
maybe
> > even having ply on the inside in the cabin area for looks and
> > strength. Fillng the space between the inner and outer skins with
> > foam, of course.
> > Ought to be a nice boat. Any comments would be greatly
appreciated,
> > good, bad or indifferent.
>
> > My midlife Corvette can't be used for
> > something like that - its a convertible and the law says no.

The Nissan is rated to tow 1000 pounds, which is more than enough.
Batteries (8 volt) are about 70 pounds. I figure I'd need two for
safetys sake, keeping one in reserve in case I am out too long under
power. The best weight I have found for an electric motor, not
counting any sort of drive, is about 70 pounds. Right now I'm looking
at a Nissan Marine outboard, 9.8 hp, that weighs about 100 pounds.
Lighter, and no recharging after every trip. Since I may do some
camping out at messabouts the last is very important. Except now I
wondering how much it would be in terms of money and labor to install
a small inboard, if it is possible and still maintain a low draft
since I do love to potter about near the shore in in developed areas..
...

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Lincoln Ross <lincolnr@r...> wrote:
> How much weight is the Nissan rated to tow? I bet Sneakeasy weighs
less
> than a lot of 16 footers! Your 10hp four stroke ought to be a good
> engine for it, too. The one I was on had a 15hp 2 stroke that seemed
to
> be plenty. I only had a couple of rides, but I thought Sneakeasy was
> pretty nice, though for rough water I'd want something else or maybe
the
> special bow Bolger drew up. Do batteries and an electric motor
really
> cost more than a 10hp four stroke?
>
> >Roger B. Frick wrote:
> >
> >Greetings y'all. I'm a newbie here, just getting ready to build up
a
> >Sneakeasy-like "creation" of a size suitable to haul behind the
wife's
> >Nissan. Say about 16 feet.
> >
>
> >snip
> >

>My only experience boatuilding has been with skin-on-frame kayaks, but
>I figure that if I take all winter, go slow, measure 50 times before I
>cut I should come out ok. I plan on using Luan ply wherever possible,
>putting in some extra stringers perhaps to keep the boat stiff, maybe
>even having ply on the inside in the cabin area for looks and
>strength. Fillng the space between the inner and outer skins with
>foam, of course.
>Ought to be a nice boat. Any comments would be greatly appreciated,
>good, bad or indifferent.

There is a species of power sharpie in the Chesapeake called a "Smith
Island Crabbing Skiff". These are open Sneakeasy like boats, usually
with an inboard engine. They're mainly used for racing these days as
something of a "latter day log canoe" nostalgia item but they are
sharpie hulls with a little bit of V st the stern.

Length about 16 or 18 ft; quite narrow and low. I've seen them go and
they do seem to go nicely. Don't know how much power the inboards
take.

I can't direct you to plans but check the web, etc.
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How much weight is the Nissan rated to tow? I bet Sneakeasy weighs less
than a lot of 16 footers! Your 10hp four stroke ought to be a good
engine for it, too. The one I was on had a 15hp 2 stroke that seemed to
be plenty. I only had a couple of rides, but I thought Sneakeasy was
pretty nice, though for rough water I'd want something else or maybe the
special bow Bolger drew up. Do batteries and an electric motor really
cost more than a 10hp four stroke?

>Roger B. Frick wrote:
>
>Greetings y'all. I'm a newbie here, just getting ready to build up a
>Sneakeasy-like "creation" of a size suitable to haul behind the wife's
>Nissan. Say about 16 feet.
>

>snip
>

Chris,

Nice little boat. I can't resolve any of the detail on the image in
the files area but it looks like this does have a number as opposed
to being an unnumbered SBJ cartoon. What is it and is there a higher
res. image available?

Thanks,
Steve Hansen

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Stewart" <stewtone@m...> wrote:
> How about Lake Launch, in the Power Sharpie folder of the Files
> section? It's already about 16 feet as designed, looks a bit like
> a short, open Sneakeasy, and would allow you to putter around
> quite nicely with 5hp..

Thanks! A if I deck this and throw in a couple of seats (bucket style
and soft - I'm getting too old for hard seats) its exactly what I'm
looking for - simple (ala Bolger), quick and mercifully cheap. Need a
bit more beam to seat 2 side by side, but thats a detail I can deal
with.

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Stewart" <stewtone@m...> wrote:
> Roger,
>
> How about Lake Launch, in the Power Sharpie folder of the Files
> section? It's already about 16 feet as designed, looks a bit like a
> short, open Sneakeasy, and would allow you to putter around quite
> nicely with 5hp.
>
> Chris Stewart
>
>
> --- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Roger B. Frick" <roger_frick@h...>
> wrote:
> > Greetings y'all. I'm a newbie here, just getting ready to build up
> a
> > Sneakeasy-like "creation" of a size suitable to haul behind the
> wife's
> > Nissan. Say about 16 feet. My midlife Corvette can't be used for
> > something like that - its a convertible and the law says no.
Right
> > now I'm about to order Sneakeasy plans so I'll do the thing up
> right.
> > Not to worry Mr. Bolger, if I end up to my neck in alligators it
> will
> > be my own fault. Saw that someone here already had a shrunk
version
> > posted but the freeboard is too high for my liking so I'm drawing
> up
> > my own set of plans and will use the real plans for a reference.
> > I'll power the thing with maybe a 10hp 4-stroke, hopefully I'll
> find
> > something quiet enough to allow me to putter around the mangroves
> > without scaring everything off. I had thought of using an electric
> > motor, but the weight and cost of the batteries put me off that.
> Even
> > thought of steam power, but the available boilers are large, heavy
> and
> > ugly to boot, so its back to the stinkpots.
> > My only experience boatuilding has been with skin-on-frame kayaks,
> but
> > I figure that if I take all winter, go slow, measure 50 times
> before I
> > cut I should come out ok. I plan on using Luan ply wherever
> possible,
> > putting in some extra stringers perhaps to keep the boat stiff,
> maybe
> > even having ply on the inside in the cabin area for looks and
> > strength. Fillng the space between the inner and outer skins with
> > foam, of course.
> > Ought to be a nice boat. Any comments would be greatly
appreciated,
> > good, bad or indifferent.

Hi, Roger:

Only to suggest thinking like a kayak the whole way: Philip Bolger comments that the
famous flat wake results (partly) from the boat being, "Very light in proportion to the
size of her bottom."

He has already drawn a smaller one for you.
It's an open boat, but maybe you could give it a dacron skin deck.
http://tinyurl.com/oyzg


Can't pull a trailer with a convertible? Who knew?

BW,
Mark

"Roger B. Frick" wrote:

> My only experience boatuilding has been with skin-on-frame kayaks, but
> I figure that if I take all winter, go slow, measure 50 times before I
> cut I should come out ok. I plan on using Luan ply wherever possible,
> putting in some extra stringers perhaps to keep the boat stiff, maybe
> even having ply on the inside in the cabin area for looks and
> strength. Fillng the space between the inner and outer skins with
> foam, of course.
> Ought to be a nice boat. Any comments would be greatly appreciated,
> good, bad or indifferent.

> My midlife Corvette can't be used for
> something like that - its a convertible and the law says no.

Roger,

How about Lake Launch, in the Power Sharpie folder of the Files
section? It's already about 16 feet as designed, looks a bit like a
short, open Sneakeasy, and would allow you to putter around quite
nicely with 5hp.

Chris Stewart


--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, "Roger B. Frick" <roger_frick@h...>
wrote:

> Greetings y'all. I'm a newbie here, just getting ready to build up

a

> Sneakeasy-like "creation" of a size suitable to haul behind the

wife's

> Nissan. Say about 16 feet. My midlife Corvette can't be used for
> something like that - its a convertible and the law says no. Right
> now I'm about to order Sneakeasy plans so I'll do the thing up

right.

> Not to worry Mr. Bolger, if I end up to my neck in alligators it

will

> be my own fault. Saw that someone here already had a shrunk version
> posted but the freeboard is too high for my liking so I'm drawing

up

> my own set of plans and will use the real plans for a reference.
> I'll power the thing with maybe a 10hp 4-stroke, hopefully I'll

find

> something quiet enough to allow me to putter around the mangroves
> without scaring everything off. I had thought of using an electric
> motor, but the weight and cost of the batteries put me off that.

Even

> thought of steam power, but the available boilers are large, heavy

and

> ugly to boot, so its back to the stinkpots.
> My only experience boatuilding has been with skin-on-frame kayaks,

but

> I figure that if I take all winter, go slow, measure 50 times

before I

> cut I should come out ok. I plan on using Luan ply wherever

possible,

> putting in some extra stringers perhaps to keep the boat stiff,

maybe

> even having ply on the inside in the cabin area for looks and
> strength. Fillng the space between the inner and outer skins with
> foam, of course.
> Ought to be a nice boat. Any comments would be greatly appreciated,
> good, bad or indifferent.

Greetings y'all. I'm a newbie here, just getting ready to build up a
Sneakeasy-like "creation" of a size suitable to haul behind the wife's
Nissan. Say about 16 feet. My midlife Corvette can't be used for
something like that - its a convertible and the law says no. Right
now I'm about to order Sneakeasy plans so I'll do the thing up right.
Not to worry Mr. Bolger, if I end up to my neck in alligators it will
be my own fault. Saw that someone here already had a shrunk version
posted but the freeboard is too high for my liking so I'm drawing up
my own set of plans and will use the real plans for a reference.
I'll power the thing with maybe a 10hp 4-stroke, hopefully I'll find
something quiet enough to allow me to putter around the mangroves
without scaring everything off. I had thought of using an electric
motor, but the weight and cost of the batteries put me off that. Even
thought of steam power, but the available boilers are large, heavy and
ugly to boot, so its back to the stinkpots.
My only experience boatuilding has been with skin-on-frame kayaks, but
I figure that if I take all winter, go slow, measure 50 times before I
cut I should come out ok. I plan on using Luan ply wherever possible,
putting in some extra stringers perhaps to keep the boat stiff, maybe
even having ply on the inside in the cabin area for looks and
strength. Fillng the space between the inner and outer skins with
foam, of course.
Ought to be a nice boat. Any comments would be greatly appreciated,
good, bad or indifferent.