Re: Rot Doctor

--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, Jack &Lois <jalo@i...> wrote:
but did find what I think is the Canadian equivilant called S1 from
Industrial Formulators in Vancouver. I used it extensively to prep
the sole of the Micro I'm restoring. It appeared to work great. After
it cured it sanded very nicely and I was able to use a more standard
epoxy system to build up another half inch of interal bottom



Hi Jack,
I too use S1 extensively and can't sing the praises of this
product enough. I do not know about using it on funky wood especially
since it is often easier to just cut out the rot and lay a fresh
piece in its place.On MDO,I have found that it generally takes 3
coats to get a beautiful glass-like surface ready for some knock-yer-
socks-off paint treatment.
You say you"used a more standard epoxy system to build up
another half inch of internal bottom"?! That's A LOT of epoxy!! Would
it not have been quicker/cheaper to just lay in a half inch sheet of
ply after making some patterns or is epoxy that much cheaper out in
Bluenose country?


Sincerely,

Peter Lenihan,back from another fun filled day of sanding the primer
on WINDERMERES bottom and all set for the final two coats.......just
hope the weather holds steady for the month of October so that I can
get the sides done.....yippeee!!!!
>It's deep penetrating quality lets it seep deep into punky patches of wood
where it >saturates and then sets up to create a deep, solid finish.

With the RAKA epoxies, you can thin with denatured alcohol up to about 10%
which makes it very thin, almost like water. When rolled or brushed on, it
penetrates very well. I use this method on the first coat and always follow
up with at least one more with un-thinned epoxy.

Now it may not 100% as good as the commercial stuff but it's better than
using plain un-thinned epoxy. The alcohol evaporates fast enough not to
bother the set up times and I always use the very-slow hardener.

As with any flammable thinning agent, use in a well ventilated area but
using only 3 ounces per quart, it's not too hazardous except when in the cup
so I wouldn't smoke around it! Once laid out, it evaporates slow enough
that with good ventilation, there's little odor and probably close to nil on
flammable.

Jeff
I've read fairly extensively about Clear Penetrating Epoxy Sealant or CPES, which I assume is the product your talking about. I was initially quite excited at the prospects of using it as a primer/sealer for all plywood for the Jochems schooner. However, I encountered obsticles re. getting the stuff across the border into Canada. I did link up with a boat shop owner in Maine who offered to receive a shipment of CPES for me. But I was still left with the expense and uncertainty of picking it up and getting across the border back into Nova Scotia. From what I've heard the stuff works great...within reason. It's deep penetrating quality lets it seep deep into punky patches of wood where it saturates and then sets up to create a deep, solid finish. I'd be reluctant to trust it to substantially repair structually serious rot damage to critical areas like stem, garboard, or lower transom. I gave up on trying to get the stuff across the boarder, but did find what I think is the Canadian equivilant called S1 from Industrial Formulators in Vancouver. I used it extensively to prep the sole of the Micro I'm restoring. It appeared to work great. After it cured it sanded very nicely and I was able to use a more standard epoxy system to build up another half inch of interal bottom. Feels rock solid. Meant to have this boat back in the water this summer, but one thing and the other have pre-empted finishing up. Current goal is a spring launch and a summer of sailing to prepare for a coastal cruise to Glouster for the Bolger pilgramage. Good luck.

jeb, greatful that Hurricane Juan narrowly missed my greenhouse-plastic covered workshop on the autumnal shores of Fundy


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Mickey asks:

>>Does anyone have any experience with The Rot Doctor at
>>http://www.rotdoctor.com/?

I purchased a small amount of his product for some house
repairs.. but as it turned out the damage was a lot more
extensive than I thought, and I wound up replacing boards
rather than fixing. I did experiment with the stuff, though
and it seemed to perform as advertised.

No problem with ordering or shipping.. I was confused at
first when I phoned in my order as the same phone number
is apparantly used for two (or more) enterprises at the
same location.

. . . Kurt

Kurt P. Herzog
Grants Pass, OR 97526

kpherzog@...