Re: [bolger] Re: Sneakeasy-like boat - Transom Width
I think reducing the size of the sneakeasy to be ludicrous, you'd most likely end up with a very dissapointing and unsafe boat due to stability problems.It would be best to build as designed or think about a different design all together, for her size(length) the Sneakeasy is not a large boat!
Someone did build a reduced size "Sneakeasy",I think it was 22', but to counteract the reduced length they increased the beam. It was featured in a Woodenboat magazine in the Launchings section a few years ago, if anybody knows the particular issue.
"Roger B. Frick" <roger_frick@...> wrote:
Thanks - I'd already decided to build the transom aand its clearences
around the characteristics of whatever motor I come up with to allow
for that. The tails will be rather slim if I was to build to scale -
since the beam would be only 35 inches. So the wonderful 6:1 goes
outthe window too. I have decided to run the motor in a well but it
means ending up with tails that are only about 14" wide. Once I have
everything worked out a bit better I'll build the thing and go
shopping for a good truck - this will be practice for the full size
sneakeasy.
Someone did build a reduced size "Sneakeasy",I think it was 22', but to counteract the reduced length they increased the beam. It was featured in a Woodenboat magazine in the Launchings section a few years ago, if anybody knows the particular issue.
"Roger B. Frick" <roger_frick@...> wrote:
Thanks - I'd already decided to build the transom aand its clearences
around the characteristics of whatever motor I come up with to allow
for that. The tails will be rather slim if I was to build to scale -
since the beam would be only 35 inches. So the wonderful 6:1 goes
outthe window too. I have decided to run the motor in a well but it
means ending up with tails that are only about 14" wide. Once I have
everything worked out a bit better I'll build the thing and go
shopping for a good truck - this will be practice for the full size
sneakeasy.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, <fritzf@a...> wrote:
> Just a note of caution if you attempt to scale down a Sneakeasy.
> Sneakeasy itself has just barely enough width on the transom to
swing
> an outboard between the tails. Actually, with my new 4stroke
Yamaha, there
> is not even enough room - the deep crankcase of the Yamaha keeps me
from putting the helm totally hard over (which would be helpful for
maneuvering - its a long boat!).
> Anyway just be careful because I don't see how you can make the
width between
> the tails any narrower, and those tails will end up being quite
skinny.
> I'm not sure how skinny is "too" skinny, but you won't be able to
keep the
> drake tail width in Bolger's proportion if you leave the transom
width constant,
> and at some point it won't look right or perform very well.
>
> That 6:1 (or slightly more than that for Sneakeasy) power sharpie
aspect ratio is an awesome thing to be part of....just basking in the
afterglow of yet another
> great day slicing the water in mine. Always feels like I'm getting
something
> for nothing when I'm out in that boat.....
>
> --Fritz
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Thanks - I'd already decided to build the transom aand its clearences
around the characteristics of whatever motor I come up with to allow
for that. The tails will be rather slim if I was to build to scale -
since the beam would be only 35 inches. So the wonderful 6:1 goes
outthe window too. I have decided to run the motor in a well but it
means ending up with tails that are only about 14" wide. Once I have
everything worked out a bit better I'll build the thing and go
shopping for a good truck - this will be practice for the full size
sneakeasy.
around the characteristics of whatever motor I come up with to allow
for that. The tails will be rather slim if I was to build to scale -
since the beam would be only 35 inches. So the wonderful 6:1 goes
outthe window too. I have decided to run the motor in a well but it
means ending up with tails that are only about 14" wide. Once I have
everything worked out a bit better I'll build the thing and go
shopping for a good truck - this will be practice for the full size
sneakeasy.
--- Inbolger@yahoogroups.com, <fritzf@a...> wrote:
> Just a note of caution if you attempt to scale down a Sneakeasy.
> Sneakeasy itself has just barely enough width on the transom to
swing
> an outboard between the tails. Actually, with my new 4stroke
Yamaha, there
> is not even enough room - the deep crankcase of the Yamaha keeps me
from putting the helm totally hard over (which would be helpful for
maneuvering - its a long boat!).
> Anyway just be careful because I don't see how you can make the
width between
> the tails any narrower, and those tails will end up being quite
skinny.
> I'm not sure how skinny is "too" skinny, but you won't be able to
keep the
> drake tail width in Bolger's proportion if you leave the transom
width constant,
> and at some point it won't look right or perform very well.
>
> That 6:1 (or slightly more than that for Sneakeasy) power sharpie
aspect ratio is an awesome thing to be part of....just basking in the
afterglow of yet another
> great day slicing the water in mine. Always feels like I'm getting
something
> for nothing when I'm out in that boat.....
>
> --Fritz
Just a note of caution if you attempt to scale down a Sneakeasy.
Sneakeasy itself has just barely enough width on the transom to swing
an outboard between the tails. Actually, with my new 4stroke Yamaha, there
is not even enough room - the deep crankcase of the Yamaha keeps me from putting the helm totally hard over (which would be helpful for maneuvering - its a long boat!).
Anyway just be careful because I don't see how you can make the width between
the tails any narrower, and those tails will end up being quite skinny.
I'm not sure how skinny is "too" skinny, but you won't be able to keep the
drake tail width in Bolger's proportion if you leave the transom width constant,
and at some point it won't look right or perform very well.
That 6:1 (or slightly more than that for Sneakeasy) power sharpie aspect ratio is an awesome thing to be part of....just basking in the afterglow of yet another
great day slicing the water in mine. Always feels like I'm getting something
for nothing when I'm out in that boat.....
--Fritz
Sneakeasy itself has just barely enough width on the transom to swing
an outboard between the tails. Actually, with my new 4stroke Yamaha, there
is not even enough room - the deep crankcase of the Yamaha keeps me from putting the helm totally hard over (which would be helpful for maneuvering - its a long boat!).
Anyway just be careful because I don't see how you can make the width between
the tails any narrower, and those tails will end up being quite skinny.
I'm not sure how skinny is "too" skinny, but you won't be able to keep the
drake tail width in Bolger's proportion if you leave the transom width constant,
and at some point it won't look right or perform very well.
That 6:1 (or slightly more than that for Sneakeasy) power sharpie aspect ratio is an awesome thing to be part of....just basking in the afterglow of yet another
great day slicing the water in mine. Always feels like I'm getting something
for nothing when I'm out in that boat.....
--Fritz